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fastback4
July 1, 2011, 01:53 PM
If you have a holster that just feels right for your autoloader let us know. I'm having a time finding the right belt or hip holster for my S&W40VE. I'd like to have a Serpa carbon fiber plastic holster but Blackhawk does not make one for my S&W40VE. http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SERPA-CQC-wCarbon-Fiber-Finish,1144,1410.htm...So let us know how it feels.......

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JTQ
July 1, 2011, 02:12 PM
I have a 1911, but I'm happy with all of these.

Raven Concealment Phantom
http://www.ravenconcealmentsystems.com/product_info.php?cPath=82_85_92&products_id=1567

Garrett Industries "Silent Thunder". I have the basic OWB model. Very nice leather lined kydex.
http://www.gimagclip.com/

High Noon "Slide Guard"
http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Product_Line/_Slide_Guard/_slide_guard.html

JTQ
July 1, 2011, 02:22 PM
I'm not a fan of the SERPA holsters.

Certainly, some users need the retention device offered by the SERPA, but I tend to think most don't.

I believe half the cost of a SERPA is tied up in the retention device, either in R&D or production costs. If you don't need that device, then you've paid $60 for what is essentially a $30 holster.

If you are looking for a range holster you don't need a retention device and I don't think most concealed carry users need a retention device either. The SERPA sticks out from the body quite a bit and doesn't conceal very well anyway.

Open carry users probably could use the SERPA's features to ensure the security of their pistols. If that is what you are looking for it would probably be a good option.

If you're looking for a range holster, in addition to the ones already listed you may want to try

Comp-Tac
http://www.comp-tac.com/

Blade-Tech
http://www.blade-tech.com/home.php

Thylacine
July 1, 2011, 02:36 PM
I'm not a fan of the SERPA holsters.

Certainly, some users need the retention device offered by the SERPA, but I tend to think most don't.

I believe half the cost of a SERPA is tied up in the retention device, either in R&D or production costs. If you don't need that device, then you've paid $60 for what is essentially a $30 holster.

If you are looking for a range holster you don't need a retention device and I don't think most concealed carry users need a retention device either. The SERPA sticks out from the body quite a bit and doesn't conceal very well anyway.

Open carry users probably could use the SERPA's features to ensure the security of their pistols. If that is what you are looking for it would probably be a good option.

If you're looking for a range holster, in addition to the ones already listed you may want to try

Comp-Tac
http://www.comp-tac.com/

Blade-Tech
http://www.blade-tech.com/home.php

I am a Serpa Fan, and I agree with your post 100%

For CCW a serpa is not a great choice. Comp-Tac is a good holster, I have not tried a blade-tech.

ForumSurfer
July 1, 2011, 03:03 PM
Crossbreed-like holster from Tommy, a member here.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=583039&p=7388271#post7388271

OWB from a member named possum here:

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p188/johnnnyhgmail/Holsters/DSCF1618.jpg

Both are very comfortable and concealable. Granted, the OWB holster requires a cover shirt or a tshirt larger than I like to wear. I still wear it during the summer but with shorts, a wicking (or a regular t shirt)t-shirt and a button down over shirt like all of my past girlfriends like me to wear anyway.

I won't wear it OWB for open carry since it doesn't have a retention device.

451 Detonics
July 1, 2011, 04:40 PM
I really like the Don Hume J.I.T. series of holsters. They hold very tight to the body, and keep the gun high on the beltline.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/handguns/jits-2.jpg

ForumSurfer
July 1, 2011, 04:51 PM
I really like the Don Hume J.I.T. series of holsters. They hold very tight to the body, and keep the gun high on the beltline.

How does that work out for you when wearing the compact glock? Does it conceal well and does it keep it tight even when being physically active (running across the yard with the kids or playing with them...not running a marathon or circuit training)? I hate resorting to my 26 just for concealment when I feel much more comfortable shooting my 19.

451 Detonics
July 1, 2011, 10:47 PM
Works great with my 19, never owned any of the smaller Glocks. Key is to thread the belt through the back loop, pants loop, then the front loop...this keeps ot from trying to migrate. As with any holster the better quality the belt is the better the holster will perform.

Varob
July 1, 2011, 11:31 PM
The most comfortable holster I own right now is the Black Ops from Pure Kustoms for my M&P 45fs.

bigfatdave
July 2, 2011, 03:24 AM
I recently ordered my third SuperTuck from CrossBreed, I've been wearing two cowhide ones for quite a while and one horsehide just arrived ... that's three carry guns in three SuperTucks, plus MrsBFD's carry gun in a CB "Ohai", making four. Plus the two different magazine carriers I've ordered from CB, one single-mag in the old design (meh, the redesign was a good idea) and a new horsehide dual IWB magazine carrier for XD45c magazines.

So lately I've been wearing an XD45c and two magazines for it in nothing but slacks and a camp shirt, no super-duper cover garment, no photographer's vest of denial, and even the wife can't tell me if I'm carrying unless I pull the shirt tight over the gun.

Forget that serpa or blackhawk, get something that is designed to hold the gun close to the body and hang it off of a quality belt. Kholster, Tucker gunleather, Comp-Tac, and Garret make crossbreed-like holsters, if the CBST is more than you're willing to spend.
A good belt can be ordered from many places, I like BeltMan, but there are plenty of others.

Dogguy
July 2, 2011, 01:08 PM
Blade-Tech or Sidearmor for Kydex. Simply Rugged for leather.

dhodgins
July 4, 2011, 10:35 AM
Garrett Industries' Silent Thunder (http://www.gimagclip.com/) (I have the IWB version) is my EDC holster. Incredibly simple, effective, and comfortable. I've tried and am not a fan of the crossbreed/minotaur style holsters. Overkill, even for a full-sized 1911.

oboe
July 7, 2011, 12:59 AM
Am considering the Silent Thunder "Slim" for S&W M&P 9mm full size. This holster has a Kydex exterior and is permanently lined with leather. The "Slim" has a single semi-wide-ish clip off-set to the rear, so it's not sitting right on the side. That makes it slimmer. My reasoning is that if it's less obtrusive and easier to put on the belt and remove from the belt, it will make life a lot easier. Right now, I'm just carrying in my pants pocket - not such a comfortable or useful way to carry a full size M&P! Compared to that, almost anything will be an improvement. But my concern is - just how easy/difficult is it to put that holster with gun onto the belt, and how easy is it to remove it? I can tolerate some small deviation from perfect stability, but only if it means easier mounting and removing from the belt.

Any thoughts on/ experience with this?

chhodge69
July 7, 2011, 01:10 AM
My most comfortable CCW holster is a 3-slot pancake OWB from Gould and Goodrich. I wear my Glock 30 at 3:30ish when I can wear an appropriate cover garment.
http://www.gouldusa.com/products/productLine_catType.php?type=Three+Slot+Pancake+Holster&line=Other+Concealment+Holsters

For hotter weather I wear a compact 1911 in an Eric T. Whisnant "Mr. Jones" tuckable IWB. It's also very comfortable and conceals well even under a tucked in shirt.

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/etw-holsters/

JTQ
July 7, 2011, 09:04 AM
oboe wrote,
But my concern is - just how easy/difficult is it to put that holster with gun onto the belt, and how easy is it to remove it? I can tolerate some small deviation from perfect stability, but only if it means easier mounting and removing from the belt.
From Garrett's FAQ section on his site.
Pull the clip head slightly away from the bottom of the belt with strong side index finger; with your other hand grasping the sweatshield, slide the holster out of the pants. DO NOT push up on the clip to remove the holster as this will add undue stress and shorten the life of the clip.
I have a double outboard clips for my Raven Phantom and I've got to believe the single attachment point of the Garrett is going to be easier than the wide spaced double attachment set up.

Garrett has a variety of clips available. I think the "C-clip" would be rather difficult to use, but the others would be just fine.

ForumSurfer
July 7, 2011, 09:15 AM
Right now, I'm just carrying in my pants pocket - not such a comfortable or useful way to carry a full size M&P!

Holy cow your pockets are bigger than mine!

On a side note...what is the benefit to the leather lined kydex?

Husker_Fan
July 7, 2011, 09:39 AM
I carry a 9mm Hi-Power in a Galco N3. It's a 1911 holster but IWB 1911 holsters have worked well for me with Hi-Powers.

It conceals very well with an un-tucked golf shirt and is very comfortable. With a good belt, the weight isn't a problem.

oboe
July 7, 2011, 12:17 PM
Forum surfer, the pockets on my shorts are quite large, but they're just average size on my chino semi-dress slacks. It's not the most comfortable way to carry and leaves a lot to be desired in ease of presentation - but at this time, it's what I have.

The leather lining inside the Kydex serves two functions for me: (1) It makes for a silent draw with no "Kydex noise" - which is why they call it "SILENT Thunder". (2) It causes slower wear on the gun's finish.

ForumSurfer
July 7, 2011, 12:30 PM
Thanks oboe.


(1) It makes for a silent draw with no "Kydex noise" - which is why they call it "SILENT Thunder".

Doesn't bother me, I don't need to draw in ninja stealth mode. :)

(2) It causes slower wear on the gun's finish.

Holster wear is sexy. :) Although, the kydex holster that I carry in doesn't seem to cause to much wear despite hundreds of draws. Plastic holsters cause wear, but kydex takes a few thousand draws. Keep in mind that leather will, too. It gets humid down here in the south, so any dust and dirt particles tend to stick to the leather. I'm an active guy, so my holsters will get dirty and leather holsters have always caused more wear when I wear them as opposed to regular kydex. I carry IWB in a crossbreed like holster at times, and the "leather side" shows more wear marks on the gun than the kydex side. But like I said, I'm active and I'm playing in the outdoors pretty often. I got to the point to where I started carrying a glock and stopped worrying about wear and finish. :) I do want to try an m&p next, just can't make up my mind if I want the 9 or the 9c. I won't carry it until I put a 1000 or so rounds through and get accustomed to it, so I'm thinking of going with the full size and picking up a 9c if I decide I like the platform.

To each his own...but at least I get it now, thanks. :)

bigfatdave
July 7, 2011, 04:28 PM
(1) It makes for a silent draw with no "Kydex noise" - which is why they call it "SILENT Thunder". (2) It causes slower wear on the gun's finish.
I really like Tucker gunleather's stuff, but ... ...
1 - who cares?
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2 - unless you get grit embedded in the leather, the "kydex wears finishes more than neather" myth is getting tedious. I have two guns I've been packing regularly in CrossBreed holsters ... want to guess which side shows more wear? Leather side or Kydex side?

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That's right, the LEATHER side shows more wear! (both sides are minimal, but the leather side is showing more for sure)

oboe
July 7, 2011, 06:09 PM
bigfatdave, we each are entitled to our desires and theories. My theory about the wear you experience is that the flat side is leather, and since it isn't fitted to the gun, it is more likely to cause wear . . . BUT

Even if the leather causes more wear, (a) I like the holster anyway because its on-and-off the belt function is easier for me with just one clip, and there are times when there must some removal of the holster/gun [on school grounds, and I frequently am there as a part time employee], inside police stations and other public buildings [including courts], and (b) I really DO care about the "Silent" part of the "Silent Thunder" for reasons of my own.

It's not a Tucker Product at this point. It's a Garrett Industries product.

Anyway, I've kicked the holster thing around for long enough, and I want to settle on one and not have to carry in my pocket.

Agree or disagree, it's great to get the points of view and experiences of other people.

ForumSurfer
July 7, 2011, 06:50 PM
oboe, we are all entitled to our opinions like you say.

You mentioned frequent removal. I live in NC and he have horrible laws. My business takes me to many places that legally require me to disarm. I can lock it in my truck temporarily or just not carry. It stinks but it is what it is. I mention this because I like to keep my holster in my pants when I disarm because there is less adjusting involved with my belt and pants. Just thought I'd throw that out there since I can relate to frequent disarming.

JTQ
July 7, 2011, 06:58 PM
I'm still buying the kydex is harder on the finish than leather "myth". Though I'll grant you it may certainly vary from maker to maker.

My kydex Raven quickly (as within the first week, quickly) wore through long strips of blueing off the top of my slide.

My High Noon "Slide Guard" will no doubt wear the finish, but it's going to take some time.

The leather lining of the Garrett "Silent Thunder" is so smooth, it seems like it will take forever to put some "character" on the finish.

oboe
July 7, 2011, 07:16 PM
forumsurfer, I did give that method some thought. I like the protection the holster provides to the gun when I stash it in the car. Also, I don't want even a hint of gun on me in those places where it's prohibited. If you live in New Jersey, it's a lovely state with the most unintelligent and bigoted attitude regarding RKBA of almost anyplace, except, of course, the City of Chicago. You have my sympathy.

Eaglestroker
July 7, 2011, 07:28 PM
That's right, the LEATHER side shows more wear! (both sides are minimal, but the leather side is showing more for sure)Simply because your gun follows the path of least resistance. It can't push on the kydex, so it pushes on the leather. An all Kydex will show more wear at certain points whereas a leather will pretty evenly wear over the entire gun.

conw
July 7, 2011, 07:33 PM
I love carrying my G19 in an AIWB Archangel Dale Fricke holster.

ForumSurfer
July 7, 2011, 07:44 PM
forumsurfer, I did give that method some thought. I like the protection the holster provides to the gun when I stash it in the car. Also, I don't want even a hint of gun on me in those places where it's prohibited. If you live in New Jersey, it's a lovely state with the most unintelligent and bigoted attitude regarding RKBA of almost anyplace, except, of course, the City of Chicago. You have my sympathy.

Gotcha!

The social climate here is mostly pro-gun or pro-oblivious, So an empty holster rarely gets questioned if I'm searched entering a building. Occasionally, yes...there is always a bad apple in every tree. It usually goes:

"Why are you wearing a holster."
"Because the law says I can't wear my gun."
"Where is your gun?"
"In my car locked away, legally."

From there it is either a pointless conversation and an attempted lecture...an over all ___ing contest that neither of us can win....or he just growls and tells me to move along.

I could take my holster off and avoid such situations, but I'd rather argue with a jerk than adjust my pants and belt. I guess I'm getting old and cantankerous!

My kydex Raven quickly (as within the first week, quickly) wore through long strips of blueing off the top of my slide.

Honestly I believe the difference between the two to be negligible at best. Holster to holster type (not material) matters more IMO. But I have experienced more wear with my leather holsters that get used heavily in outdoor activities. I can't used closed bottom holsters or it just accumulates all sorts of junk.

I have a holster similar to the phantom made by a member here and it is hands down my favorite holster and the only style holster I've used that allows me to conceal a glock 19 OWB in summer attire.

I'm glad I finally quit worrying about holster wear long ago. I now find it adds character. If you practice running drills outside in varying weather conditions in a sandy area, they all get wear...leather or kydex. There's just too much drawing and presenting to not get wear eventually.

Jonah71
July 7, 2011, 07:49 PM
I have Serpa's for my G-23 and 26 but I use Tagua leather holsters for most of my handguns. good quality imo. Maybe a little pricey at some stores but I think they will last a long time.

oboe
July 9, 2011, 08:12 PM
I'm almost certain I'll get the Silent Thunder IWB, but I am trying to decide between the regular Silent Thunder or the Slim version. The Slim has the clip mounted to the holster behind the center line, and if you look at the photos, it does allow for a slimmer profile. My only concern with the Slim is how the thing balances and how stable it is. What's your experience with stability and balance of Silent Thunder IWB, and what are your thoughts about the Slim?

JackCrow
July 9, 2011, 09:50 PM
I am very happy with the quality and utility of my AKJ for y Kimber CDP.
http://www.concealco.com/miva/merchant.mvc

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