bushmaster carbine question


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ProCharger
January 18, 2004, 08:38 PM
I've been lookin a lot at bushmaster lately but it seems every carbine i find with a 16" barrel includes the flash hider with the barrel length making it a 14.5" barrel. I want the 16" for sure and will not settle for a 14.5" in any way shape or form. Do they make 16" without a brake?

Brett

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cslinger
January 18, 2004, 08:49 PM
Sure they do. Like the following to name but a few of the more common offerings.

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa2x16sl.asp

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa2s16.asp

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa3s16.asp

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa2s16d.asp

ProCharger
January 18, 2004, 08:56 PM
I assume I could always have a muzzle brake added to a 16"correct? I was primarily looking for a 16" barrel that is in fact 16" with a muzzle brake added on top of that. Any other brands that do have a 16" barrel with a muzzle brake on top of that making it a 17.5"? Thanks in advance.

Brett

cslinger
January 18, 2004, 09:03 PM
I am sure you can get a muzzle brake added.

We have an Bushy with the AK muzzle brake and it is loud but very cool looking and does quite well at taming the ARs monsterous recoil. :rolleyes:

If it were me to do all over though, I would go with one of those Wilson brakes that look like the original birdcage flash suppressor.

Hope this helps.
Chris

Redlg155
January 18, 2004, 09:11 PM
Check out Rock River Arms

http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0201ASY&storeid=1&image=bblcm.gif&CFID=160168&CFTOKEN=23493462&jsessionid=1e301796901074474244271

They do a great job of making a real looking muzzle brake close to the A2 flash supressor. Olympic arms also has them but theirs are held on by set screws....not a good idea.

I believe your barrel will still fall short of 17.5" since the muzzle brake set back onto the barrel. The length will come out similar if not exactly the same as a threaded barrel equipped with a A2 Flash Supressor.

Good Shooting
Red

Chipperman
January 18, 2004, 09:29 PM
I have a Bushy Dissipator, 16 inch barrel, nothing on the end.
IMO .223 recoil is negligible, so you don't need a Loudener.
The flash from 16 inches is not bad, unless you're going to do a lot of night shooting. The Loudener does not help much with that anyway, but a real FS does.

RightIsRight
January 18, 2004, 09:34 PM
ProCharger

CDNN has the Bushy 16" A4 for $699. I tried to order one last week, but they are temporarily out of stock.

rock jock
January 18, 2004, 10:26 PM
Procharger,

My Bushy M4 upper is at Wilson Combat right now getting a muzzle break. My research indicates the Wilson MB rates very high on the list. I too did not want to sacrifice barrel length but did want the MB. The total length after installation will be about 17.5".

bad_dad_brad
January 18, 2004, 10:36 PM
Procharger,

As fellow THR members have pointed out, there are several 16" Bushmasters available without a comp (you can't say that about Armalites). It is commonly known as the Bushy Shorty and there is a Dissipator model as well. I have the Shorty. It is a great carbine and I highly recommend this barrel length.

The 16" really does not need a comp unless you need really quick follow up shots, but you could have a smith put one on if you want, but it would have to be welded or pinned making it semi-permanent. I would steer clear of the 14.5" barrel with a comp - too friggin loud. And besides the total length is the legal 16" anyway - so what is the point other than they are cool looking, especially the AK brake.

Go with the 20" barrel if you want to be a purest. I like the 16" barrel because it shaves almost a pound from the HBAR barrel and makes the AR a very handy and well balanced carbine.

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