Should I buy a new Barrel for my Glock 19?


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Mr Jody Hudson
January 18, 2004, 07:55 PM
I really love my Glock 19s and they shoot better than any other 9mm for me. They both have the standard factory barrels.

I would like to have a very accurate barrel that I can use in them, one capable of most-excellent accuracy to a competition accuracy.

Is a barrel change a valid option to seriously tighten my groups?

I am not at all concerned about my triggers or anything else on my Glocks, I guess I just really don't have any trigger sensitivity to any marked degree.

In fact I don't even find the Keltec P-11 trigger to affect my accuracy with it.

So, I am left with a possible barrel change to bring my Glock 19s into the small group size that I get with my .45s

What can you folks suggest? Is there a particular manufacturer that is markedly better for the Glock 19? How much would a seriously accurate barrel from that company cost? How much better would the accuracy be, compared to the stock barrel?

Comments please if you will...:confused:

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tc300mag1
January 18, 2004, 08:47 PM
The orignal Glock barrel should be polygonal(sp) and they are usually pretty accurate out of the box More so most claim than a land and groove barrel.

Only bad thing is if you hand load ya should stay away from lot of lead shooting in it as lead can build up fast and create high pressure.

If you still wanting a barrel change a bar sto,jarvis Are very good barrels.

10-Ring
January 18, 2004, 09:13 PM
A new barrel might be a nice mod if you're looking to improve accuracy. But to make the coupling work & meet its potential, you'll need them properly fitted to your pistols other wise you'd be just getting okay fit w/ okay lock up.

bad_dad_brad
January 18, 2004, 09:59 PM
Bar-Stos are generally considered to be the most accurate of after market Glock barrels. However, it is just a G19. As stated, a G19 for it's size, it is pretty darn accurate, combat accurate for sure.

I am not sure a Bar-Sto barrel is worth the expense for a G19 ($200). Now maybe a G17L or a G34 might benefit with it's longer barrel and sight radius, but a stock G19 is good enough for what that pistol is intended for. However, it would no longer be stock, and there are many competitions where a modified Glock of this type would not qualify.

http://www.barsto.com/Glock.html

HSMITH
January 18, 2004, 10:25 PM
You need a match grade gunsmith fitted barrel if you want to improve accuracy much, and the sights to take advantage of the capabilities of the barrel.

If you are not already running a high end target type sight you should have a set installed and see what it can do. There are some Glocks out there that will shoot under 2" at 25 yards with ammo they like, and some that will hold 5" or so at 50 yards just as they came out of the box mechanically. Yours might, but finding the guy to put on the handle that is capable of finding out is the real hard part.

Sean Smith
January 18, 2004, 10:55 PM
First, find out how the gun actually groups at 25 yards. If it is, say, 2" or less at 25 yards, then getting a match barrel really wouldn't be worth it. If the gun is grouping more like 6", then having a match barrel fitted could shrink your groups by 4"+.

Of course, a Glock isn't really sutible for a bullseye pistol anyway. Hard to get them uber-accurate and the trigger will always suck. As a practical weapon they can have quite good accuracy, though. And some Glocks ARE horribly inaccurate out of the box; I had a Glock 35 that patterned like a sawed-off 10ga shotgun until I replaced the factory barrel with a KKM, at which point the groups shrank dramatically. Sometimes it IS the gun and not the shooter. ;)

artherd
January 18, 2004, 11:22 PM
Get a G34, it's simply outstanding (the 17's longer slide big brother, which in turn is the 19's father.)

Alternatively, will a G17 or G34 barrel fit a 19? Anyone know?


I love my 34.

Redlg155
January 18, 2004, 11:31 PM
There is no gurantee that changing a barrel will give you any better accuracy out of your Glock 19. It will however give you more options for finding that perfect load that it likes since you can also use hard cast lead bullets without worry.

How many brands of ammo have you tried? The 9mm is very popular. Even at my local Walmart we have Winchester USA White Box Value pack, Winchester USA standard (the jacket material is different), Winclean, Win White Box USA JHP, Federal FMJ, Federal PD, and CCI Blazer.

If you order or have a good shop near you then you can get at least 5 or 6 more brands to choose from.

Spend your money on ammo and skip the barrel. :D

Good Shooting
Red

Mr Jody Hudson
January 19, 2004, 07:01 AM
I've tried most kinds of ammo. It likes Win.WhiteBox from Walmart and CCI Blazer best of all. Doesn't like S&B at all. In HP it likes Speer-Lawman GD+P the best.

This is a lot of great help folks. The gun does shoot very well. And, perhaps the real answer is a G17 or G34. However, I just sold a G17 that was not accurate at all, compared to my G19s.

Your help is very much appreciated.

I take it that there are no "accurized" or improved polygon barrels made for the G19, just rifled custom barrels. :(

Richard
January 19, 2004, 08:00 AM
Mr Jody Hudson, I agree with the other posters in that my G19 is plenty accurate. If my name was Mr Jody Hudson I would call and talk to Irv Stone from Bar-Sto; my guess is that he will tell you to ship the gun and the ammo of your choice to him. He will then match the barrel to the loads and fit the barrel to the gun. I can't say enough good about Irv Stone. Regards, Richard :D

Mr Jody Hudson
January 19, 2004, 11:06 AM
Thanks Richard! ;) That is my name; there are other Jody Hudson's around but all the rest of them are good looking and female and the Mr is to clarify and separate as I am not good looking or female... :uhoh:

I may end up taking your advice, BUT... I should have put into my original post that I really like the advantages of the polygon barrel. Any chance that Barsto or anyone else can tighten the groups with a polygon barrel... :confused: Or are they just too hard to make?

Sean Smith
January 19, 2004, 11:39 AM
I may end up taking your advice, BUT... I should have put into my original post that I really like the advantages of the polygon barrel.

What do you think the advantages of the polygonal barrel in your Glock are? They obviously aren't delivering the accuracy you want, and chrono results show that the supposed advantages in muzzle velocity over conventionally rifled barrels don't pan out in real life. Furthermore, they have the disadvantage of not working well with unjacketed bullets. So what is left to like about them? ;)

The best way to get the most accuracy out of a Glock is to have an oversized match barrel like a Bar-Sto or KKM fitted to your gun by a pistolsmith.

Mr Jody Hudson
January 19, 2004, 04:50 PM
Thanks Sean... I had heard that the polygon barrel was intrinsically more accurate for it's caliber and length than rifled and that it got substantially more speed than rifled. I take it that you have not found that to be true regarding the speed. Please illuminate me, if you will.

Also, when you say oversized, does that mean longer, that is sticking out the end, to get more speed or is there another definition of oversize?

Thanks for your input! I AM seeking the wisdom, experience and understandings of others - that is why I'm asking BEFORE I send and spend.

Joe Mamma
January 19, 2004, 04:52 PM
If you are serious about accuracy, have your factory barrel recrowned. This is relatively cheap and easy. I think many gunsmiths can do this. You can send it to Teddy Jacobon (his business is "Actions by T") and he can it for about $40.

Joe Mamma

artherd
January 19, 2004, 09:20 PM
You shoot a 19 better than a 17?

Hrm, how well do you shoot? There may not be much to improve on (or your 17 may have been put together backwards!) My G34 is a much better shot than I am.

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