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wkumatt
July 8, 2011, 06:36 PM
Has anyone used the special order catalogue lately? How long did it take? Were they able to tell you how long it would be?
I know a lot of folks hate them but I've bought 4 guns at my LGS this year and the rife I ordered from Wal-Mart was cheaper than his cost. So he doesn't mind, in fact if mine comes in he's thinking about getting one. My problem is I've been waiting for a month and I can't get anyone there to tell me how much longer. Just, "We'll call you when it comes in.
Just curious to hear of the experience of others.

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Nathanael_Greene
July 8, 2011, 08:31 PM
Years ago, I was going to special-order a rifle from Walmart. The employee (an older guy) looked me over and said, "You need half of the price as a down payment," as though I couldn't cough up that much money if my life depended on it.

I said that it was no problem (I actually had the entire cost in cash in my pocket), but he kept tossing objections my way. Clearly, he didn't want to be bothered.

Needless to say, I went elsewhere.

Deltaboy
July 8, 2011, 09:57 PM
I have not used it since the late 1980's.

Arkansas Paul
July 9, 2011, 12:09 AM
My brother ordered one about 2 years ago. He paid for it up front, kept the receipt and picked it up when it came in, which was only about a week. It was a good transaction with no problems. He got a better price than he would have elsewhere too. I'd do it in a minute.

Carne Frio
July 9, 2011, 01:22 AM
I have not ordered from them. I did overhear as a guy did.
The clerk called to verify that it was in stock ( in another state)
and that the gun would be arriving in about 4 days.

pikid89
July 9, 2011, 01:27 AM
i considered it until i saw some of the prices...i wanted a Ruger M77 MKII, but a blue one was like 800 bucks....screw that

daorhgih
July 9, 2011, 01:30 AM
an FFL provider??

wkumatt
July 9, 2011, 02:36 AM
Here in KY all the Walmarts carry rifles and shotguns, mostly 770s, Edge, ATR, and the like. The catalogue has just about everything Sports South carries in long guns (excluding rearsenalled imports) Usually if I want something my LGS doesn't have I get it at Buds, this time Walmart has Buds beat by $200.
Thanks to you all who said they should be able to get me an ETA. This experience I'm having is exactly why LGS' have nothing to worry about from these clowns.

wkumatt
July 9, 2011, 02:37 AM
Here in KY all the Walmarts carry rifles and shotguns, mostly 770s, Edge, ATR, and the like. The catalogue has just about everything Sports South carries in long guns (excluding rearsenalled imports) Usually if I want something my LGS doesn't have I get it at Buds, this time Walmart has Buds beat by $200.
Thanks to you all who said they should be able to get me an ETA. This experience I'm having is exactly why LGS' have nothing to worry about from these clowns.

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 9, 2011, 02:40 AM
an FFL provider??

You need to have a FFL to sell ammo in a store.

oneounceload
July 9, 2011, 09:37 AM
Last time I checked, walmart was using Ellett Brothers as their distributor to get guns from. If EB has it in stock, it only takes a few days or so to get it to the store

RichBMW
July 9, 2011, 09:48 AM
Sometimes your firearm purchasing experience at Walmart depends on the staff. If the store was smart (and my local Walmart was) they hired folks knowledgeable and enthusiastic about guns and ammo. I have always had a pleasant buying experience at my Walmart (purchased a Henry .22 lever action and a Ruger Mini-14, both way cheaper than I could get them at any local gun shop or on the internet.)
If they carry firearms, they have to maintain an FFL. They do have their curious policies though. A manager must escort you to the door of the store with your new firearm and you cannot buy ammo at the same time. You can put the new gun in your car and then walk back in to the store to buy the ammo.
I must admit that I have never ordered a gun from their catalog though. So I can't comment on that experience.

wkumatt
July 9, 2011, 01:15 PM
Last time I checked, walmart was using Ellett Brothers as their distributor to get guns from. If EB has it in stock, it only takes a few days or so to get it to the store
I hadn't heard Ellet Bros. I thought it was still sports south. I'll see if.I can find out whether they have it in stock. Thanks

oneounceload
July 9, 2011, 02:25 PM
They might use different distributors depending on guns type or locale, not sure

natman
July 9, 2011, 03:03 PM
You need to have a FFL to sell ammo in a store.
This was true at one time, but no longer is. The law changed. You can now sell ammo without an FFL.

wkumatt
July 9, 2011, 08:25 PM
I hadn't heard Ellet Bros. I thought it was still sports south. I'll see if.I can find out whether they have it in stock. Thanks
Nope, Ellet brothers doesn't have the manufacturer on their list. Gotta be someone else.

MagnumDweeb
July 9, 2011, 09:36 PM
Can you order pistols or do they only limit it to shotguns and rifles.

buck460XVR
July 10, 2011, 11:27 AM
Can you order pistols or do they only limit it to shotguns and rifles.


They do not sell handguns, altho I did read they were expanding the amount of store that sell firearms from about 30% to about 50%.

straightshooter9
July 10, 2011, 08:40 PM
I was in a WALMART in Jacksonville looking thru their gun catalog........
didn't offer everything but did have some preferred shotguns I like......

I also noticed that the catalog did say that 50% was required to order.....
company policy, I guess!

Magic_Man
July 10, 2011, 09:54 PM
I wonder if they can get a Saiga 12 at a good price.

Dallas1
July 10, 2011, 10:06 PM
You should have turned him into his manager, and written to corp office.
I do this at times and I actually get responses and coupons, (I don't do it to get anything in return other than getting the 'problem' fixed).
Try it next time, whether you go out to eat and the meal is bad, or like you encountered, bad customer service--I even did it at costco, and it just so happened that the ceo was there with his inner circle and we were actually contacted as we were leaving the doors of the place. With business on the low side, management doesn't want any hitches in their giddy-ups.

wkumatt
July 10, 2011, 10:38 PM
Yeah, I think tracking down a manager is my next step. They are as as rare as plaid deer at Walmart though. The guy who asked about saga, they don't carry anything but long hunting guns in the strictest sense. No all black stuff there. You can find the catalog online still says 2010 on it but still good. If you need prices just print the pages and scan them on one of the self serve scanners at the store.
They have an accutrigger model 10 package in the case worth the money but if I don't get this rifle I'm through with them. BTW it is half down like most folks said, but its 100% down on special orders at my LGS so I don't have a problem with that. If all of their stores are this ill trained its no wonder they aren't making enough to keep guns at all their stores.

Panzercat
July 11, 2011, 02:13 AM
Link, rise from the dead! The Walmart 2010 special order catalog. (http://i.walmartimages.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/SpecialOrderGunCatalog.pdf)
But seriously, haven't seen the 2011 floating around yet. In either case, i saved a copy to my PC.

wkumatt
July 11, 2011, 04:54 PM
Moral of the storey make them call the distributor when you order.
My next two rifles on the want list were a BA .223 and .308. I originally ordered the Howa Ranchland combo with Hogue Stock and Nikko Scope for $349.00. In coyote sand, the green and black were ringing up $539.00 which is what Buds charges, I had my doubts this was gonna happen at that price. My original order was June 16. I've been back in store every week since and kept being told all is well any day now.

This time I stayed calm (barely) but very firm. I pointed put to them that there was a help number on the front page of their copy of the catalog. The guy made the call and learned the Howa was discontinued and it was when I ordered, despite all of the all clears I got up front.

A girl says she wants to go get the supervisor and talk to him. I tell her that I'll walk out happy of they sell me the Savage 10fxp that is in the rack for the same price. Supervisor comes out and agrees, I look the savage over carefully as I'm getting the floor model. Fit and finish looks good, but lots of fingerprints on the barrel, I get the guy to knock off 12 more bucks.

Final words waited three weeks but walked out with accutrigger model 10 in .308 with cheap Bushnell 3x9x40 for $337.

You guys tell me, did I do alright in the end?

slowr1der
July 13, 2011, 01:15 AM
I think you did great. I'd have definitely bought the Savage for that. They are great rifles, and imo they can't be beat even at the full price of $387-397 depending on which Walmart. Everyone I've seen has shot sub moa groups right out of the box. They are not only very accurate, but they have a good trigger, and are a quality gun. Plus if you ever want to rebarrel them, they are super easy to rebarrel.

I know a friend bought one a few years back in 30-06 and he got the best deal I've ever heard of on one. He went in to buy one and they told him they were sold out. He asked if they would sell him the display model. They agreed, and he talked them into selling it to him for $250. How he did it I have no idea, but that's the best deal I've ever heard of anyone getting. His is one awesome gun, and I've tried to buy it from him a few times. His came topped with a Simmons 8 Point scope, and he is still using it today.

The other ones I've shot have all come with Simmons scopes also and they seemed to be decent. Certainly not great, but decent enough to use until you could get something better.

I see they now include a Bushnell on many of them, and I had one of those Bushnell's and it was the biggest POS I've ever owned as far as a scope was concerned. The glass sucked, the adjustments sucked, and overall it just was junk. It did hold zero though. The only time I had it lose zero was when I knocked it over and it shot a 5-6 inches right the next trip to the range. As long as that didn't happen it stayed zeroed though. This thing made the Simmons Blazers the older ones had seem like a Schmidt and Bender.

So my opinion is I'd sell the scope, and put something a little better on it, but other than the scope they are one of my favorite rifles out there.

Let us know how yours shoots. I fully expect it to shoot awesome as every other one I've seen has shot awesome and I've shot a couple and seen had friends that had others, that they love too.

oregonboy
July 15, 2011, 12:02 AM
I wonder if they can get a Saiga 12 at a good price.

doubtful

Ky Larry
July 16, 2011, 11:53 AM
wkumatt, don't know where you get your info from, but all tha WallyWorlds in Kentucky do not carry weapons. Of the 4 stores in Lexington, only the one at Hamburg Place carries weapons. Just got a new CZ-527 Varmint in .223 from Bud's a couple of weeks ago. Cost was $615.00. WallyWorld wanted
$706.00 for it.

wkumatt
July 17, 2011, 10:04 AM
wkumatt, don't know where you get your info from, but all tha WallyWorlds in Kentucky do not carry weapons. Of the 4 stores in Lexington, only the one at Hamburg Place carries weapons. Just got a new CZ-527 Varmint in .223 from Bud's a couple of weeks ago. Cost was $615.00. WallyWorld wanted
$706.00 for it.
Fair enough, I should have said all the Walmarts I've been in, in the last few years in KY as far as I can remember. I'll bet several of the Louisville and Florence area ones don't have sporting goods either. +1 on Buds, If I can't get it from Cheeks, it comes from Buds, then whoever is cheapest.

To continue this tale, on top of all the crap the receipt for the Savage had a survey on it. You can believe I jumped online and filled that out and wrote a diatribe in the comments section.

The manager calls me a couple days later and tells me that he can see I do a lot of business there and if ill come in and talk to him he is gonna order me another 223 and make it worth my while. Told him I'll come by a week from Mon and we'll see. Gonna try to get the Howa I wanted in the beginning in a different color for the same price.

Carl N. Brown
July 17, 2011, 10:16 AM
A manager must escort you to the door of the store with your new firearm and you cannot buy ammo at the same time.

Walmart's lawyers' advice after a suicide shot himself in a Walmart store. An example of the American propensity to set a universal policy based on a freak occurance that may never repeat.

wkumatt
July 17, 2011, 11:08 AM
Walmart's lawyers' advice after a suicide shot himself in a Walmart store. An example of the American propensity to set a universal policy based on a freak occurance that may never repeat.
This is not completely accurate in my experience. You can buy ammo at the same time but the manager carries your gun to the door for you. I asked, they said the no ammo thing has gone away.

Carl N. Brown
July 17, 2011, 03:37 PM
Finding a reliable cite on Walmart gun policy is a pain.

2003 Wal-Mart gun suicide turns up mostly reprints of a Dec 2004 Associated Press story.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/22/national/main662423.shtml
"Wal-Mart Sued Over Gun Suicide"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,142213,00.html

But nothing (so far) on the official manager gun walk policy. When I was walked to the door with a CVA Bobcat (muzzleloader) I did not know whether to be irked or amused.

http://www.walmart.com/ Search departments does not include legal department. ;) There is no listing of store policies, much less why.

There are discussions on various boards, which interesting enuf include "manager gun walk to the door" at places like Cabelas and Gander, as well as Walmart. Some stores beside Walmart that had such a policy have stopped.

Search Wal-Mart gun policy turns up nothing on Walmart internal policy on the manager gun walk, but does show gems like: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20110428/FREE/110429851/0/REAL_ESTATE Daniel Massey, "Foes open fire on Walmart's gun sales", crain's new york business, 28 Apr 2011.

Walmart announced plans to bring rifles, shotguns and ammo back to hundreds of stores where sales stopped five years ago--and New York City anti-gun officials and groups are calling in Bloomberg and MAIG to block Walmart from opening a store in NYC even tho' Walmart had no plans to sell rifles, shotguns or ammo in NYC. The stores that would resume long gun and ammo sales are all in other parts of the country, but to NYC anti-gunners its anathema.

DRYHUMOR
July 17, 2011, 04:54 PM
10 yrs ago, walmart was pretty hard to beat pricewise, then they jacked the prices up to near retail, then they stopped selling at most of them.

I haven't really done any comparisons lately.

Waiting nearly 7 months for a T-Bolt to deliver kind of broke me of using them (good thing I wasn't in a hurry). I cancelled the order and 4 or 5 months after that they still had not recieved it.

I recall ordering a Marlin lever from them once, it came in with the sight broke off. In the shipping process the part had scratched the barrel, the reciever, and the stock. No worries- full refund.

Still about the best handy source for cheaper ammo.

wkumatt
July 17, 2011, 10:31 PM
I'll update Monday on what happens with getting another rifle.

Reading the last few posts made me chuckle. My granny gripes all the time that there is nobody at the grocers to carry out her purchases anymore. Here we are griping because someone insists on it.

RyanAnchors
July 17, 2011, 10:50 PM
I have been looking for this for a couple years. I can never find it online.
Enjoy!
Walmart Special Order Catalog [PDF] (http://i.walmartimages.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/SpecialOrderGunCatalog.pdf)

Ah, no prices listed though.
By the way, Walmart announced they will start selling firearms in California gain! :]

This is a good thing: When a company with the weight Walmart has in DC decides selling guns in one of the most restrictive states in the country is a good idea. That means public perception is changing.

joeq
July 17, 2011, 10:55 PM
Reading the last few posts made me chuckle. My granny gripes all the time that there is nobody at the grocers to carry out her purchases anymore. Here we are griping because someone insists on it.

Really? Every grocery store here still asks if you need help taking out your groceries. I just figured it was the same everywhere.

wkumatt
July 19, 2011, 02:33 PM
Just posting to keep this thread near the top. When I get back from vacay to talk to this manager guy I want to be able to show him that 1800 fellow gun owners /buyers are reading my story. I don't think it could possibly hurt my case.

wkumatt
July 25, 2011, 09:56 PM
Now I need some help with a decision.
Walmart manager missed my expectations but I'm still tempted to buy one last rifle from there. We left it with a standing offer in front of a witness of my own and three of their managers that the next gun I buy from them I get at their cost. To make a long story short basically anything they sell is at a 15% markup. I don't want to debate whether or not that is true it doesn't matter at this point for me. That is roughly the discount I'll get from their list price.

Now my dilemma, I have a 30C, 30-30, 30.06, and .308 and a myriad of rimfires. What I want is a .223 so I can shoot up some of the cheap ammo I see everywhere. I've got my neighbors 1200 acres behind me and I'm the only shooter allowed on the place. I've blown my gun budget for the year so to keep things around the homestead civil, I'm on a tight budget. I'm looking for a good bolt action with a good resale value and good bones. I'd like to do better than the AXIS, Mossberg 4X4, and the 770.

Choices,
Stevens Model 200 #17744 for $282.20
Thompson Center Venture #5539 for $387.60
Weatherby Vanguard #VGW223RR40 for $364.65

Last question, they have a Remington M700 (Looks like an SPS) in the case for $400 with scope in 30.06. I'd take that if it were .223, they don't have the package in the catalog so they tell me they can't get me a .223, has anyone seen one of these in their local Walmart and if so could you get me the UPC?

thralldad
July 26, 2011, 12:04 PM
I stopped by my WM and asked about the catalog. I was looking for a Henry in .22 magnum. They didn't have one in the catalog but the .22 lr carbine was $276. The odd part was when the guy told me to go to the jewelry counter with the catalog if I wanted to order something!!

wkumatt
July 26, 2011, 04:52 PM
I stopped by my WM and asked about the catalog. I was looking for a Henry in .22 magnum. They didn't have one in the catalog but the .22 lr carbine was $276. The odd part was when the guy told me to go to the jewelry counter with the catalog if I wanted to order something!!
Me too, apparently those are the only registers they have that will accept a special order.

Grayrock
July 26, 2011, 09:48 PM
Looking thru the catalog linked above there is the CZ American bolt action in .223, and a Rem 700 SPECIAL PURPOSE STAINLESS SYNTHETIC BOLT. What about the Rossi matched pair single shots?

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