Full-auto Browning Hi-Power

I was at the range yesterday when two guys two booths away from me were shooting a Hipower. OK, I thought, until they shot two three-round bursts. This was no radpidfire - this was full-auto. The guys (twentysomething Hispanics - not that it has anything to do with it) started snickering like it was an inside joke.

Wonder what a cop would think about that (if he were there).

Sounds like a worn/home Dremeled sear combined with a retarded trigger nut. One of mine did that to me, unexpected doubles I do not care for.

I sent an email...please do not disregard.

Reply email send, alduro.

I think you and I have done business in the past...haha...small world.

combined with a retarded trigger nut


Um....


I think I'm just gonna leave that one alone.....



:D


As for what a cop would do, I guess it would depend on the cop. Any suspicion (reasonable or not) that they were 'gangers and I imagine a discreet call for backup and a couple of arrests would follow.

That's pretty scary -- the Browning, at full auto, is supposed to have a VERY fast cyclic rate. :eek: If it had gone truly full auto, there's no telling where that pistol could have been pointing. It might be a good idea to leave if you see those guys there again, for safety's sake.

Wes

Those three rounds came out as one shot basically - FFRRAAPP.

Those three rounds came out as one shot basically - FFRRAAPP.

Did you happen to see if any of them hit the target? I doubt it... perhaps the first one hit, but I'll bet the pistol was near vertical by the time the burst was done. Scary, scary, scary.

Wes

When I worked an indoor range, we had a standing policy for full auto fire - go check paperwork immediately. Cop shop right across the street.

Yeah, those things cycle in a hurry. I've had two different HPs do that to me, pretty fast. Glad they didn't drop the whole mag. Now were it legal I have 30rd mags and would love a compensated full auto HP. Stupid laws.

Considering there is no such thing as an FA HP, the one you saw is very liklely illegal. Any cop would and should investigate if nothing else.

Some full auto savvy individuals were discussing FA Hi Powers on another board.
There are some legally registered full auto Hi Powers in existence.

There was at least one legally registered FA 1911 also.

Never say never?

Considering there is no such thing as an FA HP, the one you saw is very liklely illegal. Any cop would and should investigate if nothing else.

A certain 1911 pictured here on THR every now and then was being test fired after having the trigger cleaned up by a reputable and well-known 1911-smith. Unfortunately, it went full-auto, turns out the lockwork just wasn't up to being tuned to a light 3-pound pull. Back to the shop it went, money was spent for new Videcki/McCormick/Ed Brown parts, and the gun worked as it was supposed to ever since. Should I have turned myself in to the local police for building an illegal burpgun?

I didn't laugh or giggle when my 1911 went BRAAPP. The look of surprise on my face didn't leave very soon, actually. But before we jump to any conclusions...

The range I frequent has very strict rules. They have your license while you are in the range area, and the police could be there within a minute.

I'm sure the 20-something gentlemen felt it was really funny, but I'm not sure they wanted was an ATF visit. They were probably just uneducated about the laws.

Personally I would have informed them that their pistol was malf. and possibly a federal crime and suggest they fix it, even leave it at the range if they had a gunsmith they dealt with.

I guess I'm going to have to reread the Second Amendment, because I can't recall anything in it about fully automatic versus semi-automatic firearms.

I have to agree with those that would have just "looked the other way". I believe in the totallity of the 2nd amendment and would have kept to myself.

I'm kinda wondering if you acted (or thought) the way you did because they "looked like gangsta types".

When I was stationed in GA, there was a place not far from Moody (in Lakeland GA) that people went to shoot. Saw many of "short" rifles and shotguns, and at least two fully auto.

All I wanted to do was ask if I could shoot it :D. But, I just kept to myself, they weren't breaking any law that I agreed with (and I don't agree with any gun laws).

M

I guess I'm going to have to reread the Second Amendment, because I can't recall anything in it about fully automatic versus semi-automatic firearms.

In a perfect world, everyone would see it like that... but sadly, it ain't a perfect world.

While I see no problem with full auto guns, the idea of a full-auto pistol (unless it's designed like that) is dangerous. If it were a full-auto BHP with a buttstock, I'd be okay with it... but full-auto handguns are generally so uncontrollable as to be hazardous.

Wes

When I was stationed in GA, there was a place not far from Moody
When were you in Georgia? I was stationed at Moody from 94-00. Worked in the 70th.

Back in the early 80's SWD was doing F/A conversions on 1911's and HiPowers. They may have also been bump firing the gun. Saw a guy bump fire a Beretta 92 several months back. Thought it had been tinkered with but I was able to inspect and strip the gun and it was factory stock except for the grips. The owner was able to bump fire and keep most of the rounds on a man target at 10 yards. I was impressed.

..funny till it becomes like a grenade and blows up.

I can pull three round bursts out of a rifle and you'd think it was full-auto.

Handguns are much harder however. (and in full-auto, very difficult to control, to the point where I'm as nervous about them in the hands of law enforcement, let alone the hypothetical situation of general public ownership.) There is an urban legend (maybe true, maybe not, but I could see it happening) of an LEO ND with a Glock modified to select-fire. He put 7 shots into the suspect, and aparently 5 into the walls and celing behind him, before he even knew what had happened. 1200rpm is a LOT.




I want a G18C anyway, for outdoor range work and general studliness, stupid '86 law.

Lennyjoe,

1994 to 1997.

Didn't the 70th get reverted back to Semore(sp) Johnson? I thought something was in the works to move them... A-10's perhaps? I wasn't involved with the moving of planes.. but I did get the new tower and rapcon built before I got out :).

M