My current collection includes a few butter knives in the kitchen, a swiss-army knife that has 2 blades in it and a toothpick, and my pair of fingernail clippers has what I think is suppose to be a fold out blade in it but it won't cut anything.
Obviously, I know nothing about good knives but want to get ONE (yeah, that's what I said about guns over a year ago and now they are my number one money pit). What one knife would you own? I want one that will be good for opening a box when UPS comes, cutting a rope now and then, leaving in the pocket for self-defense, and even gutting a deer if you had to. Oh, and preferably with a price of less than $100.
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Dave Markowitz
January 19, 2004, 10:49 AM
Look at the Benchmade Griptilian. (http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/product1.cfm?SID=1&&Product_ID=70).
I carry one every day and it's a great knife. I got the model with the modified sheepsfoot blade and no serrations.
TrapperReady
January 19, 2004, 11:54 AM
I second the Griptilian. I carry a mini-Griptilian all the time, and it gets used many times each day. I like the Axis-lock and non-serrated, modified drop-point version myself.
TheOtherOne
January 19, 2004, 12:16 PM
I like the Axis-lock and non-serrated, modified drop-point version myselfTwo suggestions is good enough for me but how do I know which version that one is? On the link, the choices that look relevant are "Plain Edge" and "Plain Edge OD Handle"?
Telperion
January 19, 2004, 12:29 PM
The OD handle just refers to the color of the handle.
TrapperReady
January 19, 2004, 07:30 PM
On the link Dave Markowitz provided, the one with the thumb stud is the modified drop-point, while the one with the hole in the blade is the modified sheepsfoot. Anymore, I always get a plain edge, just because it's so much less hassle to sharpen.
All of the Griptilians at the link have the Axis lock, although I think there are some early variants out there that don't. After carrying mine nearly every day for the past six months, I have to say that I prefer the Axis lock more than any other system. One nice thing is that by retracting the lock and giving a slight flick, the blade will deploy almost instantly. However, when you want to be a little more PC (like in front of the in-laws), you can just open it with your thumb, nice and smoothly.
hso
January 20, 2004, 08:24 AM
There is no "one best knife", but there are a huge number of good knives out there. Many can be had for well under $100. The most important thing to decide is what are the things you want to do with the knife and then look at the blade shapes that work well for those roles.
With the exception of the lock the Benchmade Griptillian is almost the same knife as the venerable Spyderco ProGrip. The materials are almost the same (Spyderco's AUS-8 is very slightly better than Benchmade's use of 440C). The Axis is a great lock, but the backlock on the PG is just as reliable. So which is better? Neither. They're both great knives that were intended to be folding skinners. It just means that you get more choices.
The better question to ask is "what should be avoided?". Any knife that doesn't say which 440 is used in the blade. Any knife that doesn't fit Your hand. If you don't know how to sharpen, any knife without a primarily straight blade. Any knife that the lock doesn't engage so solidly that there is no wobble in the lockup.
Baba Louie
January 20, 2004, 03:21 PM
You'll beeee sooorrryyy!!!!
Don't open Pandora's Box. Stick with your SAK, learn how to really sharpen it. You can use it for all of the above stated requirements in a pinch...
Oh sure, its "Just ONE knife" NOW!
But then, once you get that first one and feel and see others and realize how much cheaper they are than one of those real expensive guns you've been buying...
I hear ya.
BTDT
I've now got a footlocker full of edged little thingies.
They're all worthy of purchase. They all cut and carry fine.
I just want...one more. That's it, just one. I can stop anytime...
Yeah...
Right...
Anything by AG Russell, Spyderco, Benchmade, CRKT for value, Gerber, Kershaw or even pocketknives by Case, Camillus, Boker will do.
And just let us know how soon you end up with one of Chris Reeve's Sebenzas or a MicroTech folder or a Randall Made or two, OK?
Just one.... sheesh. I wish.
hso
January 20, 2004, 04:18 PM
Now, now BL, we wouldn't want the fellow to get the idea that he's testing the edge of a slippery slope, would we:evil: . We know that most people have just one knife. We know plenty that have 2 or 3 or even 4. It's the unfortunate amongst us that have 2 or 3 or 4 dozen (ranging in price from $50-$500-$2,500) that we want to caution him against emulating. When you start saying "they're less expensive than guns", "they reflect the personality of the maker", "they're easier to get into the house so that the Warden doesn't know they weren't already there:scrutiny: ", is when you've gotten carried (or about to be) away.
Repeat after me - "I'm own name and I'm a knife collector and I haven't bought a knife in 6 days, 10 hours, and 32 minutes (or whatever period has elapsed since you got on the net or went to a show)."
I second baba louie's warning. I was an innocent man, making do nicely
with my battered Spyderco Endura and saving my discretionary income
for the next firearms purchase. Then I started to read this forum and
the blades have begun to accumulate at an alarming rate. The Benchmade
Griptilian will be my next purchase.
redneck
January 20, 2004, 10:05 PM
Spyderco and Benchmade both offer a wide range of knives that are garaunteed to please. It doesn't matter what you pick from their lineup, it will be top quality. The only challenge is picking which one you want.
LawDog
January 20, 2004, 10:59 PM
*snort*
I was doing just fine with a Cold Steel medium Voyager.
Then a lady friend of mine said, "You can do better than that." and bought me a Kershaw/Ken Onion Whirlwind.
Little later, I decided the Whirlwind was way too fancy to carry around work, so I bought a Spyderco Endura -- just for work.
All very nice, and such, but the above knives are all stainless steel and black plastic grips -- business-like, but not really spiffy.
So, I bought a bone-handled Case Russlock for dressy occasions.
Well, the lady who bought me the Whirlwind is very dear to me, and I didn't want her gift to get lost or damaged, so I bought a Kershaw/Ken Onion Blackout for off-duty carry.
There are times when I need to be more formal than jeans, but less formal than evening wear and the Russlock really isn't as big a knife as I'm used to and Benchmade makes one called the Ares that's a full-sized locking blade, but still kind of spiffy...
SOMEBODY STOP ME!
LawDog
David
January 21, 2004, 03:15 AM
I agree with the others -- Griptailian.
:D :cool: :D
Kingcreek
January 21, 2004, 08:00 PM
If I was to have only ONE knife, it would be a good fixed blade and not one that folds in the middle.
If it has to weak enough to fold in the middle, there are atleast a hundred decent production models out there to choose from. Get decent blade steel with proper heat-treat. I prefer D2, BG42, ATS 34...
One knife? thinking like that gives me nausea...
Large Crawford/Casper folder by CRKT. Big enough, but legal almost anywhere. Don't have to worry about your hand sliding up if you stab something, and the lock is very strong with the LAWKS -- it won't fold unless you want it to.
And you can get it for under $40. What more could you ask for?
TheeBadOne
January 21, 2004, 11:06 PM
Lots of good (toys) ideas! :cool:
fawndog
January 21, 2004, 11:14 PM
Shiva Ki anyone?
Sunray
January 25, 2004, 03:18 AM
Knives are tools. Each has a different purpose. Your Swiss Army knife will do all those things. It'll just take longer to gut a deer with one. Except for defending yourself, which you really don't want to do with a knife, it's the most handy tool there is. Great steel that holds an edge and all the attachments actually work. Get a belt pouch for it and you'll wonder why you wanted anything else. Been carrying one for 20 plus years and I'm lost without it. And with your's, you can get that bit of gristle out of your choppers.
The 'blade' on your nail cutters is for getting the deer bits out from under your finger nails.
Inspector Callahan
January 25, 2004, 04:55 AM
http://www.newgraham.com/images/Add_pics/scdodo2.jpg
The rockin' Dodo. (http://www.newgraham.com/dodo.htm) :)
Bob41081
January 25, 2004, 04:39 PM
Or you could just get the best: Chris Reeve Sebenza.
Bob
Sulaco
January 26, 2004, 01:07 AM
I also vote for the Benchmade line. I carry a Mini Griptillian daily and love it. Here's a picture.
I got the blue one because I am forever laying it down and black is so hard to find (for me). Blue shows up much better.
I like this blade design for opening boxes and if I ever need it, self defense. The benchmade pocket clip is the best I have used thus far, the new style lock is much better than anything else I have used, the blade is easy to keep sharp and stays sharp and the overall feel and quality of the knife is hard to believe.
I had an older Benchmade that was a liner lock. It broke and I sent it in. A few days later I had this one to replace it. Great service and warranty.
Also, I like the size of the Mini for everyday use. I think the full-size is more of a workhorse or defensive size. The Mini is what you would want to carry anywhere (in my opinion, anyway).
TheOtherOne
January 30, 2004, 09:07 AM
Is The Cutlery Shoppe (http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/produc...&&Product_ID=70) a reputable business? Considering how long it's been and the status still hasn't changed from pending shipment, my guess is they don't stock much and just order it when you order it.
SapperLeader
January 30, 2004, 10:32 AM
Ive never ordered from them, but one of the best deals around is New Graham knives at http://www.newgraham.com
My brother and I have ordered a lot from them and they have awesome customer service and better pricing. We even made a trip to thier shop a few weeks back. Its a awesome setup, run by a pharmacist, and the webmaster is a local policeman. Two great guys, that we stayed and talked with for over 90 minutes. (most of that time was spent after the pharmacy closed.)
As for a knife suggestion, of all my knives, the one that gets carried about everyday, no matter which what, is my benchmade griptilian plain edge, with od handles. Great knife, smoothest of all my axis locks, and a steal at its price.
H&K Fan
January 30, 2004, 10:41 AM
Microtech is another good name in factory knives. Don't be fooled by msrp, they are available for around $100 or so, depending on which model knife you are looking for.
Dr.Rob
January 31, 2004, 06:52 PM
Spyderco makes excellent knives. Lots of Paramedics swear by them.
Anything by Cold Steel is a sure bet.
As far as an everytday knife I can assure you a Swiss Army Knife can open a box AND dress a deer.
dullone
January 31, 2004, 07:56 PM
You can't do much better than a Wegner Pro Hunter.
http://www.bladeart.com/artists/tim_wegner/tim_wegner.htm
Don't be thrown by the name. it's a GREAT all around do everthing knife.
Omega_7
February 1, 2004, 05:40 PM
Colombia River Knife and Tool for a folder (I like the dis-continued Apache and bought several) or the CRKT M-16 or Crawford folder lines
For a fixed blade:
Super inexpensive and solid: Ontario knife company military knives. They need a grind and sharpening however. Best avoided unless you have the skills. The Ontario machetes are US issue and very good steel, and easy to sharpen with a file. I once had one fall off the fender of my 4 x 4... It was then run over by a semi. Fortunately no one was hurt and I recovered it with merely a piece of the plastic handle cracked off and a few scratches. I still use it !
Next up would be the Camillus, they are inexpensive and worthy. The marine or air force pilot survial knives are a great deal.
Ka Bar are a good old American name and are worthy knives but more expensive than Ontario
Mid range: Junglee My personal Junglee knives are the Hattori fighter in AUS 8 stainless (this is one sharp knife, you can shave with the factory edge.. it's expensive but a fine combat weapon) and my Junglee short sword which is my personal combat militia/survival sword since it is of AUS 8 and comes with a razor edge and is very light.. it has the perfect design IMO
SOG knives are around the same level as Junglee, but more expensive. They do have some unique designs such as the pentagon and the concealable mini pentagon, which are combat knives
Moving up on fixed blades, the Bill Bagwell bowies are nice
Cold steel is expensive but worth it. The Seal 2000 knife should be avoided unless you like boat anchors, however. Their Trailmaster bowie is a nice overall knife and very sharp indeed.
I don't see the need to spend more than this for a good knife.. but there are some more expensive knives yet, and many are very fine quality. For me I would rather spend the money otherwise..unless it's a genuine combat sword in damascus or something.
JShirley
February 1, 2004, 06:42 PM
dullone,
Welcome to THR!
John
Retread
February 14, 2004, 09:40 AM
New to this site, but I carry a full size SAK, has to have a saw and scissors, a keychain SAK w/light and a Spyderco Delica.
brownie0486
February 14, 2004, 01:30 PM
dullone:
See the review of the mouse2 and pro hunter at www.folders-r-us.org under the knife test section I recently completed.
Welcome to the the forum as well.
Brownie
Bill Hook
February 14, 2004, 01:58 PM
Anything by Cold Steel is a sure bet.
Anything not 420 steel.
zahc
February 14, 2004, 03:40 PM
In my limited personal experience
Cheapest great knife-Gerber magnum LST junior (4 year EDC)
Greatest cheap work knife-Spyderco Delica
Good cheap dress knife-Camillus EDC
Neal Bloom
February 14, 2004, 04:11 PM
Go to Wally-World and get a Buck 110 for $30.00.
Bill Hook
February 15, 2004, 01:00 AM
I just got my 550 Griptilian today and would say it is worth the extra money over a Buck 110. AXIS lock is very smooth and easy to open/close. I've never had a sharper knife that I can remember, either.
I had an old phone book that I took outside and slashed and stabbed a bit. Very good as far as slashing and stabbing, with the point going in at least 1/2", if not more. I just barely nicked my finger when closing it once and it sliced off skin (just epidermis, so no bleeding) like a scalpel.
The noryl (?) handles have a good feel, but something a little "warmer" and giving would be better (micarta would be okay, perhaps as an insert in aluminum of stainless scales). They are kinda "hollow," but the knife still feels solid and balanced, albeit a bit thick for carry.
Black Majik
February 18, 2004, 05:06 AM
Another vote for the Benchmade Griptilian.
I use a 551 Griptilian as an everyday carry knife and it has been more than useful for my needs. This is my first folder knife and I am glad I spent the extra bucks for it.
Retread
February 19, 2004, 09:39 PM
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Anything by Cold Steel is a sure bet.
As long as you don't use it. I tried one. Serrations broke off cutting the plastic band off a copy paper box the first week I had it. Called the company to see if I got a defective knife and talked to some jerk who called himself the "Boss". He accused me of abusing the blade. Hung up on that piece of wasted flesh and took the knife back to the store I bought it from. Fortunately that store values their customers. They said they got a ton of Cold Steel Knives back with broken serrations. Stupid design, what do they expect you to do with it, put it on the mantle and pray to it? I didn't do anything to the knife I hadn't done with my previous cheap Gerber Easy Out without problem for over 3 years. I went out and bought a cheap Spyderco Delica. It's worked fine for about a year.
Cold Steel will never see another one of their products in my pocket. I prefer a quality working knife that I can trust.
Bill Hook
February 19, 2004, 11:12 PM
Their tantos, trailmasters, etc. are okay, but they don't seem to get good marks for their folders, serrations, or lower pricepoint stuff. They don't even make anything, best of my knowledge, so it really depends on what subcontactor makes the item.
Baba Louie
March 24, 2004, 10:09 AM
TheOtherOne...
It's been two months now. What did ya get?
Since that time I seem to have acquired another Benchmade Mini Gryptalian OD (plain), another Kershaw Chive, a simple Schrade Stockman, G/F bought me a Wally World Buck fixed blade Commerative something or other (on sale for $18) and she also gave me a S&W something or other.
Guyon
March 24, 2004, 12:55 PM
I recommend the OMEGA OMNI-CUTTER 2004. It slices, saws, dices, pries, chips, peels, pits, filets, chops, chips, mashes, bashes, scores, splits, halves, quarters, flicks, picks, whips, and beats. And yes, it even cuts. Comes complete with a uni-directional "survival" compass and can be substituted for a arc-welding rod. Made of a blend of 39 metals and alloys, the OMEGA OMNI-CUTTER 2004 holds an edge better than than most plastic cutlery. At only $69.95 plus $14 shipping and handling, it's practically a steal. Buy two today!!! :p
Seriously, look at Spyderco, Benchmade, and Buck. For all purpose, I'd buy one in the 3 to 4 inch range in plain edge. Get good steel. It'll pay for itself in reliability and function.
Good steels? There are a bunch. Some of my favorites are ATS-34 (aka 154CM), VG-10, BG-42, D2, and 440C. There are plenty more good steels though.
Right now, Bladeforums is down, but you might go over there and have a look when the site gets back up. Lots of good discussions of knives and steels.
In this category of "all purpose," I like the Benchmade 710, the Spyderco Native, the Spyderco Calypso Jr., and the Buck 110. I've been looking at the Griptilian/Mini-Griptilian lately, but I'm awaiting the Spyderco Paramilitary first.
You can't go wrong with a Spyderco Delica or Endura. Given their prices and the fact that they come in VG-10 nowadays, they're one of the best deals going.
ruger357
March 24, 2004, 01:43 PM
My daily carry knife is the Benchmade 705sbt.
Mac Attack
March 24, 2004, 01:53 PM
One suggestion which is just a little over your $ range is the new soon to be released Neil Blackwood/Benchmade Skirmish model 630. This is a big knife that will fill any bill. I haven't handled it myself but I have heard nothing but good things about it.
Also, anything made by Strider is good to go but is much more than you are expecting to pay.
Mac
xtrarnds
April 21, 2004, 07:57 AM
The Benchamade Mini-Griptilian with the modified clip point blade is a good knife to get for all around use. I have mine in yellow so as to not look "menacing". If you prefer a more traditiona design, how about a Buck 110 or Uncle Henry of the same design.
glockman99
April 24, 2004, 04:33 PM
As ALOT of (smart) folks have suggested; Get a Benchmade Griptilian or Mini-Griptilian...They are ALOT of knife for the money, and you have your choice of either dual thumb-studs (551/556) or a hole (550/555) to open the blade with, as well as a few different colors to choose from.
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