"Combat" ready pair?


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Okiecruffler
January 19, 2004, 10:06 AM
I've been just kinda wondering about getting a "just in case zombies, dinosaurs, giant spiders, blue helmets, JBT's, etc ever attack" trio of long guns. The shotgun will have to be a Remington 870 of course, but I haven't decided on the rifles. The long range rifle is more or less picked as well. I figure a Winchester mod70 would fit the bill, but I haven't completely ruled out the Remington 700 or the Savage 110. The chambering would depend on which battle rifle I chose. Right now I'm thinking either an AR15 type or a G3 type. The AR's are easier to move around with, but I do like the idea of the .308 cartridge. So which would you chose?

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TrapperReady
January 19, 2004, 10:08 AM
Ruger 10/22. Why ruin the meat? ;)

Preacherman
January 19, 2004, 11:17 AM
The .223 is a varmint cartridge. The .308 is a cartridge suitable for almost anything in the lower 48 states. Makes the choice pretty obvious to me...

Brian Williams
January 19, 2004, 11:19 AM
DSA FAL carbine or AR 10

Okiecruffler
January 19, 2004, 12:23 PM
I had completely forgotten about the AR10. That would fit the bill quite nicely. I've never warmed up to the idea of the .223 as a combat round. Now all I need is money.

DMK
January 19, 2004, 05:36 PM
I'd say go with the .308 also. FAL, AR-10, M1A, CETME, etc

I'm partial to the FAL for a "just in case zombies, dinosaurs, giant spiders, blue helmets, JBT's, etc ever attack" rifle myself. It's like the AK of battle rifles, but much better!

http://home.mchsi.com/~davidkoch/myarms/FALnMossy.jpg

Okiecruffler
January 19, 2004, 06:48 PM
Well, I just took a look at a couple of AR10's. Those things don't come cheap do they? I was hoping to keep this whole project under $1500 and I don't think that's going to happen with the AR10. Oh well, I've always liked those FAL's anyway.

geekWithA.45
January 19, 2004, 06:49 PM
Considering that in any of those situations, seeing as full auto is generally out, volume of fire won't be available to us, therefore what fire we have must be as effective as possible, which to me says .308.


That being said, .308 is damned heavy compared to .223, and I'd hate to have to hump 200 rounds through the brush for days on end, compared to 200 rounds of .223.

Okiecruffler
January 19, 2004, 06:53 PM
I should clarify that I don't actually think I'll be lugging these things thru the wilds of Oklahoma. I just have more money than sense (that doesn't mean I have tons of money, just that I have very very little sense)

Andrew Wyatt
January 19, 2004, 08:07 PM
If you're going to get an 870, you might as well buy american for the battle rifle, too. it's hard to beat an M-1A.

Preacherman
January 19, 2004, 10:55 PM
For a very low-cost but also very reliable alternative, try the Saiga in .308. They're usually under $350 for the wood-furniture version (my favorite), and the synthetic-furniture variant is a few bucks cheaper. They come with an 8-round magazine, and the trigger pull, while long with plenty of "creep", isn't particularly heavy. They come with 16" or 22" barrels - I recommend the longer barrel for the most efficient powder burn in this caliber. See here (http://www.eaacorp.com/firearms/saiga/rifles/index.shtml) for more details.


http://www.eaacorp.com/firearms/saiga/rifles/images/saigawood.jpg

Zak Smith
January 20, 2004, 12:31 AM
Shotgun- Benelli M1S90 "Tactical"
http://www.demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3gm-2003/315c.jpg
Extremely reliable and needs no cleaning.

Did someone say AR10?
http://apollo.demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/2003-JPAR10/small/img_0102.jpg

Realistically, the heavy bullets (75gr or heavier) in .223, or 6.8SPC, in an AR-15 will do just fine against anything man-sized. You'll be able to shoot it more quickly and accurately than the AR10 for a host of reasons.

-z

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