What's the best buy in handguns today?


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Dr_2_B
July 10, 2011, 10:01 PM
I'm talking about the defensive handgun that is under-priced for whatever reason (such as the Sigma perhaps). New or used.

What do you consider to be the best buy out there today?

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AWorthyOpponent
July 10, 2011, 10:17 PM
Most people will probably say Glock or XD/XD(m). Really, $500-600 bucks for a handgun that has proven to be reliable and will last you a lifetime isn't all that much.

skoro
July 10, 2011, 10:26 PM
The used S&W k-frame revolvers are available at good prices in large quantities. A good one in 38spl or 357mag would be hard to beat in terms of value.

bigfatdave
July 10, 2011, 10:43 PM
CZ82, if you're willing to irder the matching cheap 9X18 mm ammo in bulk.

A duty-quality autoloader in a duty chambering, with 12x magazines ... for ~$200
That's a steal, most come with two magazines, even!

Shmackey
July 10, 2011, 10:43 PM
M&P

jawn
July 10, 2011, 10:55 PM
Used (LEO trade-in, perhaps) S&W 5906. Right around 300 dollars and built like a tank.

towboat_er
July 10, 2011, 11:13 PM
I bought 3 CZ82s. Next S&W 5906.

doc540
July 10, 2011, 11:17 PM
Sigma in .40 when S&W reinstates the $50 dollar rebate.

My current one is the fourth or fifth I've owned.

All bought for around $200 and change.

whetrock
July 10, 2011, 11:22 PM
CZ-82 or Polish P-64 with lighter wolf springs.

Mick_W
July 10, 2011, 11:26 PM
M&P, SP101/GP100, RIA 1911's, there are others.

Dnaltrop
July 11, 2011, 02:09 AM
I went with an M&P instead of the XD... I'm too stupid to hold a Glock correctly. :) all 3 will function well in most cases, just up to feel in the hand. Excellent values all.

CZ-82 is good steel, a bit more comfortable to shoot than a Bersa .380 for me. (Bersa is also a surprising gun for me, low cost, the old man carries one, and it's getting better as the round count rises.)

Fishslayer
July 11, 2011, 03:13 AM
While I mourn the passing of the all metal models, IMO the P series Rugers are still a great bang for the buck.

Ditto the RIA 1911 Tactical. Lot of gun for around $500.

Older shooter grade S&W revolvers are probly the best deal going. But once you've dropped the hammer on a real classic S&W you'll be ruined for any of the boxy black tacticool stuff going around today.

I've seen some pretty good buys on 2nd & 3rd gen S&W bottom feeders, too.

Telekinesis
July 11, 2011, 03:41 AM
I would probably go with police trade-in glocks. I'm not much of a glock guy, but have been thinking about picking one up lately (so I guess that makes me glock-curious?) and I think an almost like new (with holster wear) gun for under $400 (IIRC) is pretty hard to beat.

Twmaster
July 11, 2011, 04:01 AM
For value and quality and performance I think you are going to have a really hard time beating some of the current surplus pistols available right now in 9x18 Makarov. The Polish P64 and the CZ82 are great all metal guns. Both can be had for around $200 with ammo. Both are of good to very good quality.

loadedround
July 11, 2011, 07:06 AM
Guys: Read the original question and change your responses. The best buy in handguns today without a doubt is Ruger; be it a revolver, 22, or CF pistol. Anybody like to prove me wrong?

surjimmy
July 11, 2011, 07:23 AM
The new Ruger 1911....$619 plus tax.

jimsieben
July 11, 2011, 09:19 AM
M&P

Kendal Black
July 11, 2011, 10:06 AM
I agree on used S&W cop revolvers--without keyholes. Very sound weapons, though a lot of them are sorta beat up looking.

9-ball
July 11, 2011, 10:39 AM
+1 for the CZ82
and the Makarov PM too.
Really great firearms at a fraction of their value, probably because of abundance.

jon86
July 11, 2011, 10:45 AM
I think the best buy in a carry gun is the smith 642 no lock.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/70713

$361 at buds.

stonecutter2
July 11, 2011, 11:14 AM
Best buy for a defensive handgun that's underpriced for what it is - CZ82.

~$200 w/2 magazines, a cleaning rod, and a holster (mine came with a brand new CZ factory holster, thick black leather).
-Build quality is fantastic, finish tends to be worn BUT a defensive gun should be for defending with, not looking at.
-Mine is very accurate. Surprisingly so.
-9mm Makarov round can slightly outperform 380, FMJ available at my LGS. Hornady XTP hollow points available online.
-CZ USA website lets you buy CZ83 parts, almost all of which are interchangable - brand new replacement parts available easily
-CZ USA website sells night sights for CZ82/CZ83
-CZ USA website sells surplus leather shoulder holsters for $4.99

Mike1234567
July 11, 2011, 11:32 AM
I opted for an M&P .45 because of its reputation for reliability plus the grip and it's angle felt better in my hand. I held a few Glocks but I didn't like any of them. I bought one with thumb safety but without mag safety.

Dr_2_B
July 11, 2011, 12:12 PM
The guy I'm asking for has said he really wants only autos at this time. Thank you for the responses... still interested in more opinions.

easyg
July 11, 2011, 12:17 PM
Ruger

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM7181.jpg


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Furncliff
July 11, 2011, 12:18 PM
USED:

CZ 82 ... inexpensive, effective, available mail order, good ego's...the women in my family agree, terrific back up by CZUSA.

S&W K frames, inexpensive, effective, available in every pawn shop, simple to operate...

NEW:

RIA 1911 in .45acp or 9mm.

antiquus
July 11, 2011, 12:48 PM
Yea, da CZ-82 is the best used deal around. Think $650 gun for $200.

Revovlers - Ruger anything for value. Just want one that works: Taurus. But still the classic S&W attracts me, sweet triggers.

Autos: S&W M&P. Best value for dollar spent.

GCBurner
July 11, 2011, 01:18 PM
Police trade ins. S&W .357 revolvers, or Beretta 9mm or .40s that have been traded in as department get Glocks instead. They may have some holster wear, but have generally not been fired that much. The last batch of Berettas I saw at a gun show had mostly been fitted with tritium night sights, too.

I'm3rd
July 11, 2011, 03:04 PM
I agree on used S&W cop revolvers--without keyholes. Very sound weapons, though a lot of them are sorta beat up looking.
I agree too. I bought a model 10 S&W cop shop trade-in about 20 years ago for $150 if I remember right, and although it had some minor blue wear from holster carry it was almost like new internally. It's more accurate than I can shoot with 74 year old eyes, although I have gotten plenty of 5 shot groups at 25 yds from a bench rest. I firmly believe it could do even better in the steadier hands and sharper eyes of a younger shooter, but whoever he is he will have to wait until my widow puts it up for sale someday along with all my other guns. That is, unless Sheik Barak Hussein Obowow's jackbooted thugs gets them first.

I'm3rd
July 11, 2011, 03:10 PM
I meant to say "plenty of under 2" groups" in my previous post. It aint just my eyes that are getting old.

RevDerb
July 11, 2011, 03:16 PM
IMHO, you can't beat the Ruger SR9c, LC9, and LCP for value and reliability. $275-425.00. I shoot the LC9 & SR9c weekly and have hundreds of rounds through both without a single failure, I shoot the LCP just often enough to make sure that it is mechanically sound and to give me a reason to clean and inspect it. If you don't at least look at the Rugers you're doing yourselves an injustice.

SharpsDressedMan
July 11, 2011, 05:37 PM
Glock 21. Powerful, common, respected caliber. Durable design, user friendly, accurate, reliable. For the money (the last two, used like new, I have found for under $425 each), I consider it a best buy. Glock also has a great service department.

franco45
July 11, 2011, 06:35 PM
Kahr CW series and the CM9.

WinThePennant
July 11, 2011, 08:40 PM
The best buy would be a combination of a low price, and an excellent shooter.

Under $400 new:

Sig P250
Sig SP2022
S&W SD9
S&W SD40

jlmdlm
July 11, 2011, 08:49 PM
I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the Bersa line of handguns. I have never owned one, but I have read countless positive reviews and posts. It seems that a lot of the owners consider the Bersas a bargain.

ac398
July 12, 2011, 12:37 AM
I think for a brand new gun S&W 642 are a great deal for $360 shipped. If you wanna go used I agree with the people saying CZ82 hard to beat a good gun for $200. I dont want to start a war but I personally could never trust my life to a taurus, for my first gun I almost got one before I decided on a revolver and Im glad I did. My brother in laws taurus 24/7 in .40 drops the clip probably about once every 15 shots. Literally went target shooting with him a couple of times and you pull the trigger and the mag hits the floor repeatedly. Im sure theres a bunch of great taurus out there but I cant bring myself to buy one anymore

the_hustleman
July 12, 2011, 12:43 AM
Can't beat an m&p.

Smith & wesson outglocked glock.

They live up to the glock motto better than they do

*swyped from the evo so excuse any typos*

Smokey in PHX
July 12, 2011, 01:08 AM
Look at Rugers, you will not be disappointed.

DNS
July 12, 2011, 04:28 AM
Smith and Wesson Sigma, then the SD.

lucky-gunner
July 12, 2011, 08:59 AM
Surplus and police trade ins aside. I would go with a CZ 75B. I haven't been able to find a better mid priced handgun. The Baby Eagle is really nice for the price also and might be a better range toy vs the CZ.

RIA is really close second.

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MikeNice
July 12, 2011, 09:02 AM
The best deal really is the CZ-82. I recently saw one in the store for $265 with an extra mag, holster, and mag pouch. You can get 500 rounds of range ammo for about $100 shipped. Plus CZ-USA will still service them because they are similar to the current CZ-83.

I also have a soft spot for the CZ P-07 Duty. It is a great gun that can be had for $436 with transfer. It has a DA/SA trigger system. It has the Omega trigger system so you can switch between decocker and manual safety. The gun is balls on accurate, it comes with two 16 round mags, they include a bore brush and cleaning rod, and it requires no break in. Mine has fired everything from 115gr plinking ammo to 147gr flat tip without a hitch. I have loaded mixed mags and the gun still handles fine.

That gun is quickly replacing my other guns as my favorite. Even though my Taurus 85b3 has seen me through two close calls it is on the shelf. I have been carrying my P-07 every where. If I can take it legally, I do.

$436 and you get a gun that has passed the Czech national police torture tests. It has passed muster to be carried by municipal police in the country. It is also carried by police departments in Spain. Bulgaria, Thailand, and the Phillipines all issue the P-07 as the official side arm of their Ministrys of Interior. Protective and security services in Israel and South Africa also use them.

Read the article from the 2011 CZ buyer's guide. The gun is built like a tank. Plus it hadles and holds like a dream. I could go on for days about this gun. I love the gun and would happily pay the $599 being asked for a new G4 Glock. Instead I got it for $483, total. From Jet Guns it can be in your hand for $436. The best deal out there in my opinion.

CZ 2011 Buyers Guide (http://www.cz-usa.com/assets/files/CZ-USA_2011_Buyers_Guide.pdf)

wlewisiii
July 12, 2011, 09:36 AM
I'll vote for the used K-frame revolvers. Nothing better & stupid cheap.

snooperman
July 12, 2011, 07:15 PM
Especially the SR9 , P95, and also their revolvers.

Bmont2409
July 12, 2011, 07:45 PM
I think it is hard to beat a Sigma 40ve, have thousands of rounds through mine and never had a problem. I have had several jams in FN Sig and Walther, but the Sigma eats anything i load into it, and it was the cheapest gun I have purchased.

wvshooter
July 12, 2011, 08:12 PM
The best buy would be a combination of a low price, and an excellent shooter.

Under $400 new:

Sig P250
Sig SP2022
S&W SD9
S&W SD40

I'd have to agree. I just bought the Sig p250 sub compact at GM for $379 before tax. Tremendous handgun at a great price.

paradox998
July 13, 2011, 12:05 AM
CZ82, nice size, 12 rounds, reliable and uses the makarov round, a little more punch than the 380acp. a steal at $200

Redneck with a 40
July 13, 2011, 11:19 AM
I'm with easyq, Ruger SR9-C. I picked one up last month for $466 out the door, that's a best buy to me.

roachcore
July 13, 2011, 01:06 PM
I would have to say either the stoeger cougar or the Sig 2022 both can be had for around $400 and both are top quality firearms that would still be a good deal if they were to cost more

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searcher451
July 13, 2011, 04:19 PM
CDNN is selling the full-sized Walther P99 QA: $479 is a great price for a new pisstol. The P99C QA is on sale for $449 as well.

rybu0305
July 13, 2011, 04:33 PM
+1 on the Sig 2022. Can be had for $400 or less and is a great shooter.

Texshooter
July 13, 2011, 08:31 PM
S&W autos, Rugers, Kahrs.

glocks & xd have become WAY overpriced as regards value for the $

almherdfan
July 13, 2011, 08:36 PM
Ruger SR9c, Bersa Thunder CC.

triplebike
July 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
Stoeger Cougar, $369 NIB.

group17
July 14, 2011, 10:01 AM
Stoeger Cougar +1

Dafish2011
July 14, 2011, 11:49 AM
RIA in 38 Super for $425 and a 9mm barrel and link for $60.

You can shoot both rounds with the same mags.

If you spend the time and buff out the ramp and so on this is a great deal!!

snooperman
July 14, 2011, 12:31 PM
A fantastic bargain.

frank c
July 14, 2011, 01:49 PM
I'm talking about the defensive handgun that is under-priced for whatever reason (such as the Sigma perhaps). New or used.

What do you consider to be the best buy out there today?
IMHO the 3rd gen. smith & wesson 5906,3914 & 3913 are hard to beat.I also like my beretta 85 fs cheetah,beretta 92 inox and kahr PM9.To many choices,LOL.

isc
July 14, 2011, 01:52 PM
these S&W model 10s for $220 seem like a screaming good deal:
http://www.allans-armory.com/aaresult.php?PageId=58

JR47
July 14, 2011, 01:58 PM
I just purchased an EAA EZ40, made by Zastava of Serbia, in the former Yugoslavia. Sig-like in appearance, with ambidextrous de-cocker and mag release. The gun is one nice looking piece, inside and out. Good trigger, tight lock-up, and is the service arm, in 9x19, for the Serbian Army. Zastava has been in business since the mid-1800s.

Price? $360.00.

Spare mags are easily available, and cost about as much as other high-cap ones around.:)

deanodog
July 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Police trade-ins. Model 5906 for 299.00 from CDNN.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c375/deanodog/auto%20pistols/000_1134.jpg

modifiedbrowning
July 14, 2011, 05:37 PM
Another vote for Bersa.

labhound
July 15, 2011, 04:01 AM
Without a doubt the Stoeger Cougar in 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP!

Loosedhorse
July 15, 2011, 01:58 PM
1. Used gun, like a police trade-in, if you know how to inspect it for signs of malfunction or amateur gunsmithing.

2. A gun without mystique or fan-boys to drive up the price. Used Glocks sell for less than used SIG P210s, and used Sigmas sell for even less--at my LGS, they sell for less than used Model 10s.

Ogie
July 15, 2011, 07:13 PM
Glock 19 for carry and a Glock 21 for nightstand use.

robertn
July 16, 2011, 12:03 AM
M&P would be my vote...

hardluk1
July 16, 2011, 01:54 PM
bersa, tel kec and sw sigma simple cheap and work.

larryh1108
July 16, 2011, 10:18 PM
Used gun: CZ75 series
New gun: CZ75 series

simple!

doggy1953
July 17, 2011, 01:01 AM
Taurus 38 special model 850 CIA,hammerless, $253 two months ago. has 2 in barrel, does +P rounds, shoots great.

digsigs226
July 17, 2011, 02:04 AM
+1 for the M&P Series

scaatylobo
July 17, 2011, 09:07 AM
I agree that THE best buy are USED police trade in's.

They are used but still function as they were intended = they shoot bullets at threats and CHEAPER to buy than any new gun.

WinThePennant
July 17, 2011, 09:34 AM
I know that people love their own guns, but how is a new [fill in the blank expensive top company manufacturer] a "best buy" ? Or, am I reading the question wrong? But, by "best buy" I figured that the OP was asking for great guns at bargain prices.

I agree that used police guns can be a great buy.

Trad Archer
July 17, 2011, 09:43 AM
Bersa Thunder 380 and Bersa UC Pro in 9mm, 40 S@W, and 45 ACP.

These guns eat everything they are fed without jamming up.

larryh1108
July 17, 2011, 10:09 AM
I know that people love their own guns, but how is a new [fill in the blank expensive top company manufacturer] a "best buy" ?

To me, a "best buy" is getting the most gun for the least money. It doesn't mean cheap (as in inexpensive). It means it's a reliable gun with the features you want and shoots accurately. I chose the CZ75 series because (to me) it is the best handling, shooting and reliable gun out there in an "affordable" price range. To me, it is more accurate than guns costing 2x as much (value) and is time proven reliable as well as being one of the least "complained" about guns on boards like this one. If you want cheap the get a Hi Point. If you want every feature available on a handgun then get a 1911 race gun. If you want the best bang for the buck the get ( ) fill in the blank. My answer is the CZ75 series. As others have stated, there are many options out there.

jmr40
July 17, 2011, 10:57 AM
I'll vote for the used K-frame revolvers. Nothing better & stupid cheap.


Great guns, but not cheap anymore. Used 66's are sellijng for $600+ around here.

I do see used S&W 5906's at very good prices.

On a new gun I see new Ruger P-95's selling for as little as $279 in blue, stainless for $319. On a tight budget this is the way I'd go.

WinThePennant
July 17, 2011, 11:34 AM
To me, a "best buy" is getting the most gun for the least money. It doesn't mean cheap (as in inexpensive). It means it's a reliable gun with the features you want and shoots accurately. I chose the CZ75 series because (to me) it is the best handling, shooting and reliable gun out there in an "affordable" price range. To me, it is more accurate than guns costing 2x as much (value) and is time proven reliable as well as being one of the least "complained" about guns on boards like this one. If you want cheap the get a Hi Point. If you want every feature available on a handgun then get a 1911 race gun. If you want the best bang for the buck the get ( ) fill in the blank. My answer is the CZ75 series. As others have stated, there are many options out there.
Yup, you are right. There is more than one way to look at it.

I'll have to take another look at those CZ guns. They seem to have a lot of fans. Same with Bersa.

I'll say again, however. The BEST gun for the money right now is the P250. I paid $359 for mine, and it is an AWESOME gun.

threebanger
July 17, 2011, 12:13 PM
Got a brand new P95 for $265 a couple years ago, think they can still be gotten for under 3 bills. Incredible value in my book.

Don357
July 17, 2011, 04:48 PM
Kel-Tec's, Bersa's, any of the several Com-bloc 9x18 Mak such as the CZ mentioned, FEG P-64, etc. The Witness (Tanfoglio) pistols are exceptionally well made and inexpensive comparably. It really depends on if you want a sub-compact, compact or full size pistol. I lucked up and found a 9mm TZ99 which is a South African version of a CZ99, which is made by Zastava, and copied from a Sig 229.

hemiram
July 18, 2011, 02:56 AM
The S&W 3rd generation guns for around $300.

mgmorden
July 18, 2011, 09:16 AM
For "best buys" its all about the used market. The CZ-82 is an obvious frontrunner there. Less than $200 for a completely modern handgun firing relatively cheap ammo is a no-brainer.

In brand new guns, as far as "bang for buck", I think the Ruger P95's are hard to beat for a basic working gun. I like the trigger on them better than the Sigma and they are utterly reliable. There are better guns out there but most either excel in an area that may not be of great importance to many shooters, or come in at significantly higher prices.

Smaug
July 18, 2011, 01:31 PM
CZ 82
Used S&W Model 10s
Used Ruger P-series pistols

Marlin 60s.

pisc1024
July 18, 2011, 03:00 PM
M&P

GLOOB
July 19, 2011, 02:51 PM
Ruger GP-100's and Glocks.

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