First Rifle, CZ 527(7.62x39)


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slash415
July 18, 2011, 09:27 PM
So I have been wanting to get my first center fire rifle for quite a while now. I have done alot of research and found the CZ 527 to fit my needs best, here is why.

I want a rifle that is fairly inexpensive; But more importantly cheap to shoot. I have a very low budget. I would like the gun to be reliable and accurate out to 400 or 500 yards.

I chose the 7.62x39 because it is the cheapest caliber I know of. Of course I could buy a 200$ used ak74 and shoot 5.56x39, but i am not looking for a cheap plinker that isn't that accurate and ammo has to be almost exclusively bought online.

So, I would like some advice on what I should do from more experienced shooters then myself. I have also been considering the .223 round.

Thanks for any help


PS Unforchantly reloading isn't an option right now.

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armoredman
July 18, 2011, 10:25 PM
I have a CZ 527M carbine in 7.62x39mm, and love it. Sweeeet shooter, very fun bolt action carbine. Be aware 7.62x39mm has a rainbow trajectory, and my handloads experiance a 22 inch drop at 300 yards. I love shooting it, and usually keep to 100/200 yards. If you really like longer range, the .223 might be a slightly better choice. The carbine does come with fixed iron sights, no adjustables are currently made, but I know a guy who does them on a custom basis, and not for an arm and a leg, either.
The single set trigger is great, completely adjustable, too. It's just one heck a fun shooting carbine!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/527withBushnell.jpg
Older pic before adjustable rear iron installed.

Cal-gun Fan
July 18, 2011, 10:50 PM
I like the idea of x39 in a bolt action, but I'm not sure it would be better per say than a .223. For what I'd use it for at least.

However not all ak74s are inaccurate, even with surplus ammo. Many are more accurate than 7.62 AKs.

lesgeaux
July 18, 2011, 10:55 PM
That sounds interesting, put a bullet drop comp scope on it and have some good plinking fun. I like the CZ rifles that have the rear sight leaf like the AK on them, would be nice on this rifle.

armoredman
July 19, 2011, 09:23 PM
lesgeaux, I had to get a gunsmith to handcraft an adjustable rear sight for my CZ 527M,

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/IMG_2384.jpg

It JUST fits under the scope bell,

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/scopebellandfoldingsight.jpg

Works great. The standard 527 rear sight is fixed, drift adjustable only, and there are some various height front sights available from CZ-USA.

There are no other rear sights available for the CZ 527 series at this time that I know of at this time.

goon
July 19, 2011, 11:16 PM
I don't know that I'd call the 7.62x39 a 500 yard cartridge, but I'd still take the 527 in that round if I just had all kinds of money to burn!
CZ's are great!

Taurus44
July 20, 2011, 10:05 AM
If you get the 527 in 7.62x39, be sure to try the 154gr Wolf SP ammo. Mine shoots it as well or better than any other factory ammo I've tried.

Bubba613
July 20, 2011, 02:39 PM
The CZ 527 is not an inexpensive rifle (although well worth the money). Nor will the 7.62 cartridge shoot accurately out to 500 yards. Other than that you're on the right track.
Note I have a brand NIB CZ 527 for sale in the for sale section.

For what you want Id suggest a Savage Axis in 308 and a Lee Reloader kit, which is dead simple to use.

Catshooter
July 20, 2011, 08:19 PM
You've made an excellent choise.

When you do get into reloading you can open up a new level of performance in your 527. I was getting 2600 fps with Hornady's 123 grain soft point with mine. It was max and shot into less than an inch at 100 yards. Those loads aren't safe in AKs or SKSs but the CZ is a much stronger platform.


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F-Body Demon
July 20, 2011, 08:30 PM
Man! I am jealous! Always wanted a CZ-527. Congrats

slash415
July 22, 2011, 09:51 PM
Thank you everyone for the VERY helpful advice!

chris in va
July 22, 2011, 11:42 PM
Excellent first rifle. I've had mine for a few years, no regrets.

Couple of helpful hints. If the rounds aren't feeding right, have a look inside the magazine. There's a hole stamped out at the flat, trailing edge and all four of my magazines have a burr where that hole got punched. Take a file and smooth that sucker out.

Also mine doesn't reliably ignite surplus ammo. The primers are just too hard. CZ sent me a new firing pin spring that helped a bit, but I still get the occasional light strike.

Sheepdog1968
July 23, 2011, 01:29 AM
Sounds like a reasonable choice to me. I'd definately choose the AK round over the AR for this bolt action as the AK round would be better if you want to hunt in the future. I'd prefer a 308 round as its a bit more flexible. However given your budget constraints, the AK round is definatelu a more inexpensive round to shoot.

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