Remington 700 vs Browning X-Bolt


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TimeIsRunninOut
July 21, 2011, 02:41 PM
Super base models which is better? The X-Bolt has a gray synthetic stock. The 700 has a nice walnut stock, still very basic. What would be a better buy? Both are with in 50 dollars of each other. I am also looking for a nice 2-7, 3-9 or 4-12 scope. It will not be in some radically expensive caliber or heavy recoiling round. Something light mostly a paper puncher and something like coyote sized game. I am also open to good buys in the same price range. Sub 600 for the rifle, I have budgeted for around 250 scope, I already have mounts. Any advise would be nice.

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chrt396
July 21, 2011, 03:09 PM
I have a 30-06 stainless hunter X-bolt that I think is beautiful, with the walnut stock and stainless barrel. It was not sub-$600 however. Closer to $900 They are both excellent guns...but my vote would be for Browning.

However..if you want an inexpensive, super accurate, NICE paper puncher..check out the Savage line-up. You will DEFINATELY get more gun for your money with that line-up. I have two model 10 .308 rifles and the accuracy is untouchable by many more expensive guns. As far as the scope..if you want an inexpensive, NICE scope with a lot of great features, the KONA lin-up of scopes is great! I bought a 6.5-25 M-30 Pro from Optics Planet for only $269 and it is incredible. Clear, bright and best of all..did NOT break the bank.

HOOfan_1
July 21, 2011, 03:16 PM
Is the Remington used? The only models I know of that come with walnut stocks on new Remingtons are the CDL and the BDL, neither of those is even close to basic.

I think the X-bolt is god awful ugly, and with a synthetic stock even more so. I have no idea how they shoot though, I like the A-bolts.

parker51
July 21, 2011, 03:19 PM
I would recommend something like this if you can find one for the price you want to pay:

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1624595/Re_Remington_700_SPS_Tactical_

You should be able to find a new 700 SPS in 223 for under $600 and if you shop around you can find a Nikon Monarch for close to $300 (maybe a little less). I have one of these in .308 and it is one of the most accurate guns I own without any modifications. Hope this helps.

chrt396
July 21, 2011, 03:22 PM
Is the Remington used? The only models I know of that come with walnut stocks on new Remingtons are the CDL and the BDL, neither of those is even close to basic.

I think the X-bolt is god awful ugly, and with a synthetic stock even more so. I have no idea how they shoot though, I like the A-bolts.
HEY HOOfan!! You calling my X-bolt ugly! I think it's sexy! Wow...that's kind of like telling me that my wife is ugly!

rodensouth
July 21, 2011, 03:32 PM
I like the X-Bolts looks too, and it feels nice to shoulder for me. Great recoil pads and good triggers. Mine have wooden stocks.

357 Guy
July 21, 2011, 03:35 PM
I have a 700 CDL SF with fluted barrel in 30-06! It looks and shoots great! If you are not looking for a large caliber rifle, then you should check out the 700 SPS Varmint. It has a great heavy barrel, a nice looking stock, is available in calibers up to .308 and itís listed for $665!!!:what: For a scopes check out Nikon they have a pretty good line up that won't break the bank.

coug
July 21, 2011, 03:38 PM
If you are looking to punch paper mostly. I would go with the rem 700 in a 6mm or 243 because as you punch paper for a while you may want to stretch it out and out and out. if you go with the remington you can upgrade the rifle you already have a little at a time and have way more parts available and some at cheaper prices. the other thing you may even want to have the action worked over and a match grade barrel put on some day. you can find a competent smith almost anywhere to do this to a remington but you will find that 50% of the smiths out there wont touch a browning. Mostly because of the A bolt not the X bolt. and you will find it harder to DIY a lot on the browning.Just my opinion.

Abel
July 21, 2011, 07:43 PM
X-Bolt, without a doubt.

rori
July 21, 2011, 08:33 PM
I've got 2 700's, 1 X bolt and 1 A bolt. Just got done shooting the X bolt and had 4 groups right at 5/8" at 125 yards then did a .445 group at the same yardage.My A bolt will shoot half inch consistantly it actually gets boring. I'm sure if I had more than 4X scopes on them they would shoot even better but thats good enough for a deer, elk, bear, and coyote gun. Get the Browning you'll never regret it. Frank

HOOfan_1
July 21, 2011, 08:45 PM
HEY HOOfan!! You calling my X-bolt ugly! I think it's sexy! Wow...that's kind of like telling me that my wife is ugly!

I dunno, I've never seen your rifle, or your wife :p

I think the X bolts are ugly... The weird contours on the fore end and the weird contours on the pistol grip, not to mention the grip is too angles...and the weird metal or plastic housing that wraps around the magazine well...

the A-Bolts looked a lot classier

Norrick
July 21, 2011, 09:03 PM
If you plan on modifying your gun with any replacement parts (trigger, stock) or plan on having any gunsmithing done, by far the Remington is the way to go.

Other than that, I have an xbolt on the way and I could tell you after I've had some range time with it.

If its anything like my T-bolt, I'm guessing the Browning would have a better fit and finish but probably is not as rugged.

Don't know about accuracy yet either.

slowr1der
July 22, 2011, 12:24 AM
The X Bolt is the much much better option here.

For a scope in that price range, I'd check out the Vortex Vipers, and the Bushnell Elite 4200 Cabelas had on sale. If you don't want to spend quite that, I'd look into the Burris E1.

Get R Done Guns
July 22, 2011, 01:24 AM
Really like the Browning. The Remingtons SPS are nice but not as good as the X-Bolt.

coug
July 22, 2011, 10:47 AM
I would highly recommend vortex optics. to go on your new rifle. I own 6 of them now. I have shot threw Schmidt & Bender / Mark 4 and others. pound for pound dollar for dollar you cant beat vortex.
S&B does have better glass but not for what you spend. I think and most people I know think vortex has better glass than Mark-4. you can get a viper for around $400 and if you compare that to any VX-3 or Nikon they just blow them out of the watter. This is my opinion but its an educated one I have used all the scopes that I have compared.

coug
July 22, 2011, 10:48 AM
Oh yea about a year ago I did not even own a vortex. all NIKON and Leupold.

Sako Shooter
July 22, 2011, 05:14 PM
I did a lot of research prior to purchasing my X-Bolt. Not sure what your top criteria is, but my X-bolt will shoot two brands of hunting, factory ammo sub-moa, and that is off the hood of my Jeep w/no fancy benchrest equipment. As it was a recent purchase, I have more ammo to test. Although looks and feel are subjective, I found the X-bolt to shoulder better than other rifles in that class and also it looks great to my eyes at least (high gloss, gold trigger type of thing). Barrel is floated, action bedded and the trigger is crisp and creep-free and adjustable, plus a great recoil pad. Whereas a smith can more easily mess with the Rem 700, there's simple no need to with the Browning as it comes w/the goods from the factory.

Do some research on the X-bolt. It was named rifle of the year by several gun mags and "Gun Tests" magazine did a great comparison test and found exteremly favorably for the X-bolt.

As for prices, the base X-Bolt was pretty inexpensive and I can with confidence say it is one of the best buys in centerfire today. I believe there are carbon fiber and white gold editions that are double the price of the base model if you want fancy, but can't say they shoot any straighter than the base model.

rule303
July 22, 2011, 06:05 PM
The X-bolt is the better rifle out of the box for sure. The trigger is better, the fit and finish is much better, the recoil pads are awesome, and the detatchable mag is nice. It took me a while to get used to the looks of them, but they are very comfortable to shoot. If it is something you want to tinker with and customize, get the Remington.

gamestalker
July 22, 2011, 06:08 PM
700 hands down, they can't be beat.
Optics, I would buy the 3x9x40 Leupold Hunter and never have to buy another scope again. They are right at the $250 mark and are crisp, excellent eye relief, don't fog, and are threaded to accept Leupolds custom light filter's if you ever want one. Customer service is a cut above the rest too, even though I've never had a Leupld leak or other wise fail, except when I dropped one off the Mogion Rim back in the 1980's. But Leupold still took care of me at absoluely no cost, not even shipping!

tiwil
July 23, 2011, 08:03 AM
I would go with the x-bolt.

shooter_from_show-me
July 23, 2011, 10:36 AM
I say...Browning X-Bolt:neener:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/luvngthelord/vaca343.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/luvngthelord/vaca342.jpg

slowr1der
July 23, 2011, 06:42 PM
Hands down the Browning X Bolt. There is no comparison.

TimeIsRunninOut
July 25, 2011, 01:30 PM
Your x-bolt looks much nicer than either of the two rifles I was looking at. The x-bolt I am looking at has a gray synthetic stock that makes it look cheap, would this be a deal breaker for any of you? and is Redfeild really made by Leopuld? I like the Vortex brand scopes for sure.

bearman49709
July 25, 2011, 06:38 PM
X-bolt is the best bolt rifle on the market today.

Horsemany
July 25, 2011, 10:10 PM
X-bolt is the best bolt rifle on the market today.

Agreed. Mine are preferred over more expensive rifles I own. The X-Bolt button rifled barrels are amazing.

Arkansas Paul
July 25, 2011, 10:54 PM
The better buy is the one you're the most comfortable with. Chances are they are both plenty accurate and will both outlast you if properly cared for. Get whichever one feels the best to you.

By the way, I think the X-Bolts look sexy too.

Lloyd Smale
July 26, 2011, 09:35 AM
I didnt mind the A bolts but the x bolts are ugly! There both good shooters so thats a wash. So to me it comes down to looks and for the same price id take a cdl hands down.

Craigman
July 26, 2011, 03:11 PM
I love both of my X-Bolts. Great shooters and very "natural" feel for pulling up to the shoulder for fast target aquisition.

shooter_from_show-me
July 26, 2011, 07:21 PM
Your x-bolt looks much nicer than either of the two rifles I was looking at. The x-bolt I am looking at has a gray synthetic stock that makes it look cheap, would this be a deal breaker for any of you? and is Redfeild really made by Leopuld? I like the Vortex brand scopes for sure.
It's a White Gold Medallion model in .243. Bought it for my 13 y/o step daughter for hunting whitetail deer here in Missouri. Bought it from Bud's.

Mike1234567
July 26, 2011, 07:39 PM
X-Bolts are not ugly. You just don't like synthetic stocks. Below is a link to the Medallion with wood furniture.

X-Bolt Medallion Homepage (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=023B&cat_id=035&type_id=200&content=x-bolt-medallion-firearms)

HOOfan_1
July 26, 2011, 09:58 PM
I think they are ugly in wood stocks as well...just not as ugly

VAhuntr
July 26, 2011, 11:16 PM
I guess looks are subjective. I love the look of my X-Bolt Hunter. I sold my last 700 after I shot the X-Bolt a few times. IMO the fit, finish, and quality on the X-Bolt was much better than my 700 CDL. I would pick the X-Bolt.

Norrick
July 27, 2011, 06:27 AM
Ok I just got my X-bolt today. I will comment on what I have noticed so far.

X-bolt has better overall fit and finish, and the better trigger out of the box. The Remington still has smoother bolt operation. I'm thinking even with the 60 degree bolt lift a Remington may be still be faster. The bolt lift requires more force on the x-bolt and in general is a little loose when going forward and back. The X-bolt has a Sako styled extractor if that is important to you.

Something I noticed is that if you plan on single loading your bullets the X-bolt can be a bit finicky. If you just drop your ammo in sometimes the tip of the bullets will dive into the front of the magazine on the and they will get stuck as you push the bolt forward (at least my snap caps do). If you are not overly casual about it, its not a problem.

The factory synthetic magazine on the Browning is the best I've felt on any factory rifle. I'm sure you can find something as good or better on an aftermarket Remington, but as the action is glass bedded and the barrel is free floated out of the box, its a very attractive package. Its comfortable with its slight palm swell and tacky rubberized surface, and I probably wont have to do anything to it (not like there are many options either).

I am waiting on a base from Murphy Precision before I can go shoot it and will chime in again with the experience.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
July 27, 2011, 04:12 PM
Browning ---any day---everyday

Remington's aren't even worthy for consideration to take my money.

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