old Winchester 22 help


Charles 3433
July 23, 2011, 05:57 PM
I hope this is put in the correct board. Let me know if it is not and I will do my best to straighten it out.
I have a friend that got this rifle from her brother after his death. I have no idea as to the rarity or worth of it and would appreciate all the help I can get. All I know is that it is a 22 made by Winchester.

If you need other photos, let me know and I can post some.
Thanks for your indulgence.






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Jim Watson
July 23, 2011, 06:09 PM
Well, she's got a Winchester Model 1890, designed by John Browning and made sometime between 1902 and 1919. You don't show a serial number to set a production date any closer and you don't show the caliber marking. It can be a .22 Short, Long, Long Rifle, or Winchester Rimfire; NOT interchangeably.

I won't guess a dollar value because I am not too sharp at calculating percentages of blue and because resale value depends strongly on caliber as well as condition.

Jim K
July 23, 2011, 09:01 PM
Maybe I feel like sticking the neck out, but I will WAG the retail value on that gun at around $350. It might go for more if what looks like a crack in the stock behind the receiver is not a crack.


Charles 3433
July 24, 2011, 12:54 AM
Thanks much for the reply guys. On the barrel is a stamping (of which I do not have a picture ) that says 22 Short. Also there is a number that is stamped in two places into the metal that is 359482.
I can get pictures of these if needed.

Thanks once again

Jim Watson
July 24, 2011, 10:21 AM
OK, .22 Short means .22 Short ammunition ONLY in this model. You might have to scout around for some to shoot, but it is still being made.
No 359482 was made in 1908.

The gun is a Browning design and very strong. If the barrel is good, it will shoot for another century or so.

July 24, 2011, 11:10 AM
Looks like the one in my gunsafe except I'm able to use Long Rifle ammo in mine.
The Model 1890's are great shooters and my two Grandsons put my rifle through it's paces.
If you see .22 short ammo it might be a good idea to buy a quanity as it looks like it's getting rare.

Charles 3433
July 24, 2011, 05:52 PM
She was thinking of maybe giving it to her grandson to be able to learn about guns.

I will take it to a shop and have them look at it to make sure it's safe, try to find some ammo and she can make a decision then. If it's that hard to find ammo then maybe she could sell it to someone who appreciates this type of weapon.

As I have found out, being a novice about guns, this is a valuable resource being on this board with all you knowledgeable people. It is very much appreciated for all the responses and I thank you all very much for the input.

July 24, 2011, 07:31 PM
I saw an ample supply of .22 Shorts at the local Walmart today.

Charles 3433
July 25, 2011, 11:27 AM
Thanks Zeke/PA. I'll check that out today.

July 27, 2011, 06:28 AM
Ive seen alot of these this year for some reason. Most of the ones I have come across have seen hard use. Values can easily range between $200 all the way up to $1000 (although it is a RARE example to meet the 1k mark) In my neck of the woods, a gun in that condition runs about $400-$500 pretty easily, depending upon bore condition and other factors which I cant tell from the photos. My grandpa had one, except his was a 1906. He had the barrel relined as the old bore was basically shot out from so much use. Wish I had it, but another ancestor got :(

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