Love and Hate my new gun. 8)


PDA






Nushif
July 25, 2011, 01:18 PM
I have had a Compact RIA for a little bit now and it still looks just like new, without a single dent in the parkerized finish.
And that is the problem. I bought it as a working gun! Very specifically I bought it with a tough finish, oiled it up well for regular use and now I don't like stuffing it in a holster because of wear.

Once a gun has some wear or a few scratches I have no problems like this, but the pristine ones give me this kind of trouble. What do you do to desanctify your gun and make it "handleable" in your own mind? I know ... Aside from buying used.

If you enjoyed reading about "Love and Hate my new gun. 8)" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
kingpin008
July 25, 2011, 01:22 PM
I don't worry about it in the first place. :)

CoRoMo
July 25, 2011, 01:22 PM
Give it time. You're bound to screw it up sooner or later.

:D

Actually, that's the truth. I try real hard to not baby my guns when they are new. It takes effort to not get heartbroken when you see that first scratch or blemish, but it has to happen. We can't go on worshiping things to the point that we don't use them for the reason we bought them.

Seanpcola
July 25, 2011, 01:23 PM
Sounds like my Dad. Every time he bought a new car we would stare at it in the driveway while he mussed "Ought to take a hammer and knock a ding in it under the rocker panel. Go ahead and get the first dent out of the way".:D

NMBrian
July 25, 2011, 01:23 PM
Shooting the piss out of it and carrying it up the side of a mountain out here in New Mexico usually takes care of any anxiety :)

Around 11,000ft you stop caring about little things lol

30-30shooter
July 25, 2011, 01:25 PM
put some rounds through it, A LOT of rounds

General Geoff
July 25, 2011, 01:27 PM
unload, lock the slide back, and drop it on a concrete patio. First ding taken care of :)

MistWolf
July 25, 2011, 01:29 PM
I simply take care of it, shoot it and use it as intended. Over time, it will show honest wear, the best kind there is

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 25, 2011, 01:33 PM
Put it in a holster of your choice and carry it.

cyclopsshooter
July 25, 2011, 01:35 PM
uh.. its a rock island... whos gonna seriously collect those?

Nushif
July 25, 2011, 01:36 PM
But I do shoot it ... And I do carry it ... >.<

I just end up sitting in my hobby chair afterwards restoring it to a condition as if that never happened. As a matter of fact, I have consided dropping it down our outside carpeted stairs ... Just to get it out of my system.

M-Cameron
July 25, 2011, 01:38 PM
i run into this problem occasionally with my knives......

ill buy a knife.....but then i never end up actually using it for fear of scratching it up.......

theres only one solution.........you need to bit the bullet and actually use it...and you realize its far better to enjoy using it....than it is to enjoy looking at it.

..once you get one good scratch or ding.....you feel bad for about 20 min.......then you dont care and can finally start using it as intended.

rellascout
July 25, 2011, 01:39 PM
Go some tactical magazine reloads with snap caps. Ram a few mags into that well a few hundred times at speed and you should be good to go...

Also really we are talking about an RIA which a park finish. It was not a thing of beauty to start with. :neener:

Zach S
July 25, 2011, 02:18 PM
I used intentionally put small idiot mark on the new or like new 1911s I bought, just to avoid the first scratch drama, then I just didn't care.

george29
July 25, 2011, 02:22 PM
I have consided dropping it down our outside carpeted stairs ... Just to get it out of my system.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk! (Eli Wallach - Tuko)

Just get it over with!

(I have a NIB RIA GI and it's definitely built to be a shooter, not a safe queen).

Furncliff
July 25, 2011, 02:26 PM
I have been testing handholds in my Ria T, recently. When I got to cleaning it I had a good look at it and the thought occurred to me that it was still in great shape (my wife gave it to me 3 years ago). I think you're going to be conflicted for a looong time:), they're pretty tough.

Fishslayer
July 25, 2011, 05:21 PM
uh.. its a rock island... whos gonna seriously collect those?

People collect Glocks...:confused:

I'll never forget putting a scratch on my new to me '52 vintage S&W Model of 1950 Target. :eek:

tbutera2112
July 25, 2011, 05:36 PM
beat it up with normal wear, once it gets ugly have it refinished and its like new all over again.....they can always be restored!

my HE finish on my p2000sk was wearing down in some spots pretty heavily, so now its out getting hardchromed....problem solved

i do have a horrible problem with knives though....i buy them and then i never carry them because theyre too pretty and i dont wanna tear them up or make them dull...so now i have like 20 knives and i dont even carry a knife daily

Jon_Snow
July 25, 2011, 06:13 PM
An unblemished gun is like a blank canvas or blank sheet of paper, it's only appealling because of the possiblities it represents. Every scratch and dent tells a story. So go out and shoot the heck out of it, carry around and let it get dinged up.

Shooter57
July 25, 2011, 08:17 PM
Just unload it ,cock it put hammer lock on drop in driveway to check the safty holds and you get your idiot marks, case closed.

bannockburn
July 25, 2011, 09:08 PM
I think most members here would tell you to use it but don't abuse it. You even stated that you bought it for the purpose of it being your working gun. I mean would you go out and buy a new car only to never drive it for fear of getting dings, dents, and stone chips on it. Take it, holster it, carry it, shoot it, clean it, enjoy it!

hso
July 25, 2011, 10:08 PM
Use it

Carter
July 25, 2011, 10:11 PM
Shoot it a lot.

Carry it mexican style.

Carry it mexican style and let it fall down your pants leg and bang on the floor (fiancee's brother did that with his RIA)

Run it through a torture test.


That should put your mind at ease.

Nushif
July 25, 2011, 10:17 PM
I like the idea of a torture test.
What do you propose? It would be pretty awesome to really put it through its paces.

Carter
July 25, 2011, 10:20 PM
I like the idea of a torture test.
What do you propose? It would be pretty awesome to really put it through its paces.

I've never actually done one, but I'm sure youtube would give you plenty of ideas. I've seen a video where a guy through his in to a pond/lake and a bucket of mud and it kept running.

Dump some sand, mud, and whatever else you can think of on it and have fun.

I am in no way responsible for the out of your firearm though. =D

Nushif
July 25, 2011, 10:28 PM
I was always intrigued by how many rounds it would take without a cleaning to make it not work ... The super long 1k round tests are always fun to watch.

Ronsch
July 26, 2011, 02:49 PM
cyclopsshooter...Not a gun snob are you?..lol..

I have three RIAs, two with consecutive numbers and my RIA compact. All three are shooters, but I could have easily left them alone, just for the heck of it. they are good guns for the money...people collect all sorts of things, including cruddy little pot metal pocket pistols, so it is all up to the owner.

Nushif
July 27, 2011, 01:27 PM
I think I finally figured out what I'll do.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j423/tealcrie/Guns/3732fb98.jpg

This! I don't have the faintest clue how many rounds this is. But I will expend them all ... in one session.
I don't think I'll be doing some sort of rapid fire test, seeing as I only have three magazines and I do still have to pay for my own ammunition, but this is sure to break in the gun pretty darned well.

[edit]

500 rounds exact, actually ... now.

BFC
July 27, 2011, 03:02 PM
Sounds like a plan! I think of my guns as tools, well maintained tools, but I don't fret the normal wear stuff. I buy 'em to shoot/enjoy 'em, gives 'em character!

youngda9
July 27, 2011, 03:07 PM
I could understand if it was one of those $2,000 1911's or something.

tbutera2112
July 27, 2011, 03:53 PM
kills me when people talk about dropping their guns on the concrete and stuff on purpose....my thinking is, just because its a tool and an EDC, doesnt mean i dont wanna keep it nice

someone mentioned a new car etc....if i buy a brand new car and it doesnt have a mark scratch or ding on it, i will baby the hell out of it...rock chips? touch up paint imeediately...scratch? buff it out or have it repaired ....when i had my mustang it was kept immaculate, no matter how much i drove it

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tbutera2112/my%20car/Fognowords.jpg

my EDC is out getting refinished at this very moment to clean up all wear it had also... pics of that when i get it back! itll be the first two-tone p2000sk ive ever seen

VT Deer Hunter
July 27, 2011, 07:31 PM
That has happened to me for a while, but when i come to NEW half chaps AND NEW paddock boots for horseback riding you cant keep them nice and perfect. So i didnt care all dirty and worn. They actually look better this way.

Dnaltrop
July 27, 2011, 08:12 PM
Cyclops... it doesn't matter if it's a RIA, or a cheaper gun...

It's just good to take proper care of your possessions. Especially if they may one day be the tool that keeps you alive.

Nushif, shoot the heck out of it.. or do what I do, put it on your hip, carry a baby around, and wait for the diaper to fail/slip out of position. Nothing like cleaning baby waste out to make a gun feel used .

jackpinesavages
July 28, 2011, 02:04 AM
Worry about the software, not the hardware; training will use it's finish off.

trlhrv
July 29, 2011, 09:57 AM
I avoided the issue by purchasing a used Chas. Daly Compact (early RIA Built) for $250 at a gun show. It already had its' dings and blems but shoots great. Later bought a full size used CD that still looks new.

Jonah71
July 29, 2011, 10:07 AM
I've always been extremely careful with my '74 Mod. 36 Chief's special because it only had a few scratches around one of the screws. But one day I was in a hurry leaving the house and it ended up in a coat pocket with an old set of keys for the day. So much for a few scratches.

stonecutter2
July 29, 2011, 02:20 PM
uh.. its a rock island... whos gonna seriously collect those?
If not many people do, and for some reason it's desirable in the future, then an unused example would fetch a lot.

Realistically, it's not collector-worthy, but then again 50 years ago there were a lot of things nobody thought about collecting that are now worth a whole lot of money.

Nushif
July 31, 2011, 01:25 AM
Alright. I did it.

Here's some after pictures.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j423/tealcrie/370aa753.jpg

and ...

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j423/tealcrie/Guns/c11b46fa.jpg

These were taken at the range, before I packed it up for the day. When I got home and removed the gun from the case, it was still warm to the touch.

I took away two things from this trip.

I need to increase the OAL on my self rolled ammo. It caused a lot of feeding problems being way too short. Factory ammo worked fine.
Finally figured out how to position my hands on the darned thing. It ended up being a bit of a combination between the "thumbs forward" and the "thumbs locked" grip.

Overall my grouping was fine, I think, with anywhere between 1 and 5 inches at seven yards, depending on how fast I went. Now I just need to learn how to run the gun.

Yup. Sweet gun. And I can finally treat it like a working gun. 8) Even though it did clean up to 90%+ pretty much perfect condition.

kd7nqb
July 31, 2011, 02:52 AM
I know more than one person who would take a brand new car and put a little scratch on a wheel well or a bumper corner so they could say "Now its not perfect"

tbutera2112
July 31, 2011, 11:07 AM
^ those people sound like idiots. why waste the money on a new car if theyre going to purpose tear it up? just buy used - even a used one with less than 10k miles will save them a few grand

Buckshot Bill
August 1, 2011, 09:45 AM
Nushif, they're good guns and a great value for those that are wise enough to understand that.
Try 1.250 on your length for your reloads, that length works well for me.
One other tip- Rocks seem to run the best when they're wet. Keep 'er well lubed and she'll be happier and so will you.;)
Good luck, Buckshot Bill

bruzer
August 1, 2011, 09:42 PM
Awesome, but I was hoping you would have invited me too. I could have help you load magazines and of coarse shoot a few for you!
Mike

exavid
August 2, 2011, 01:59 AM
I guess I look at my various machines differently than most. I don't often buy cars new. I'd rather someone else paid the full price. I don't try to keep things pristine either, cars, motorcycles, guns or whatever. I keep them in good operating condition but beyond that they are all tools for me to do the things in life that I like to do. I don't run a museum. If I own it, it will work and it will be used. If I don't use it I sell it. Never could see having a lot of 'stuff' around that I don't need. I have plenty of nicks and dents on my body from years of hard use so I don't mind my other things if they show some use.

tbutera2112
August 2, 2011, 09:39 AM
^ theres a difference in stuff having wear from being used as opposed to stuff being purposely dropped on the concrete to "get the first scratch out of the way" or scratching the bumper of a brand new car for the same reason......thats like getting a scar from working as opposed to getting a scar from being an emo and cutting yourself

If you enjoyed reading about "Love and Hate my new gun. 8)" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!