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trigun87
July 27, 2011, 12:15 AM
Im looking to purchase some 22 short rifles. Right now I have one a Glenfield model 25 which is great but i want a new/newer style of gun that shoots 22 shorts and LR. The reason is simple I have a small pest problem and like keeping my dirty work quiet. I also like shooting discreetly in the back yard.

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toivo
July 27, 2011, 12:30 AM
Remington 552 and 572 will shoot shorts. So will a Winchester 9422, or, AFAIK, other tube-fed lever guns.

husker
July 27, 2011, 01:45 AM
Henry 22s will cycle shorts. cheap lil lever actions

pikid89
July 27, 2011, 01:53 AM
volquartsten makes a kit to convert a 10/22 to run shorts...comes with a new bolt, spring, and magazine

unfortunately, they cost about 250 bucks and brownells has stopped carrying them

you can however still get the magazines ($45) if you want to run a 10/22 as a straight pull bolt action

bigfatdave
July 27, 2011, 08:14 AM
Henry 22s will cycle shorts. cheap lil lever actions My Henry guns LOVE eating shorts (particularly CB shorts from CCI)
And yes, Henry makes an inexpensive levergun, which is also a very nice gun.

Sav .250
July 27, 2011, 08:29 AM
You want quiet? How bout one of the new, more powerful, air rifles?
Just a thought.

bigfatdave
July 27, 2011, 08:48 AM
.22short CB rounds are quieter than many air rifles, and you get a repeater that can be used for non-quiet applications if needed.

But for nothing but casual backyard shooting and pest control, an air rifle might be a good choice.

Sensai
July 27, 2011, 09:51 AM
My vote is for the Henry H001, also. Fun little rifle that will handle CB shorts to Long Rifle ammo equally well.

Wishoot
July 27, 2011, 10:06 AM
Here's another vote for the Henry 001. Never shot shorts through it, but it's been 100% with everything else. It also has the smoothest action of any rifle I own.

CraigC
July 27, 2011, 12:26 PM
If you want quiet get a CZ 452 Ultra Lux. It won't cycle Shorts but with its 28.6" barrel, CB Longs are deathly quiet.

BCRider
July 27, 2011, 01:10 PM
Along with the tube fed magazine rifles there is always the option of the single shot rifles. For example my club has a youth program that uses the Savage Mk I FVT. With the target peep sights these are amazingly accurate rifles. You'd have no issues at all with hitting any sort of rodent size pest dead center at any sort of backyard distances.... Even if your backyard is up to hobby farm size. And if you don't want new there's any number of older single shot options. Single shot rifles don't care what you put into the barrel be it LR, Long, Short or CBCaps.

MtnCreek
July 27, 2011, 01:29 PM
Marlin 25n is hard to beat; very accurate for a good price. It will cycle CB longs through the mag. CB longs are very quite. Any shorts have to be loaded one at a time.

The reason is simple I have a small pest problem and like keeping my dirty work quiet.
Make sure you get a good clean kill; you don't want your neighbor's cat running off wounded to die on their front porch!:eek:

bhk
July 27, 2011, 02:49 PM
BTW, CCI CB shorts and CCI CB longs have exactly the same ballistics and noise levels. The only reason I can think of to use the shorts is to fit more rounds in a tubular magazine. The longs have the advantage of feeding through a greater variety of .22 rifles, especially those with box magazines.

handermanntr
July 27, 2011, 04:12 PM
You could use 22lr subsonics in a ruger 10/22(or any other 22lr, but it's the best), they are quieter than some of my air guns!!, and kill with authority.

Remo223
July 27, 2011, 04:27 PM
you don't need 22 shorts for a quiet gun. In fact, 22 shorts are MUCH louder than subsonic rounds. IMO, subsonic longs are quieter than subsonic long rifles.

I don't know what these people are talking about that claim a subsonic longrifle or a subsonic long is quieter than an air rifle. That is just plain not true.

MtnCreek
July 27, 2011, 04:34 PM
don't know what these people are talking about that claim a subsonic longrifle or a subsonic long is quieter than an air rifle

CB's and sub-sonic are not the same.

VA27
July 27, 2011, 04:37 PM
The BL22 handles shorts. The Remington 550 will run with shorts and if exceptionally clean will even run with 22 short CB's. The Winchester Model 74 was made in a 'short only' model. A few years ago Browning made a run of SA22s in 22 short.

Remo223
July 27, 2011, 04:41 PM
CB's and sub-sonic are not the same.

doesn't matter. neither one is quieter than an air rifle

feedthehogs
July 27, 2011, 04:42 PM
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=AU1B222337&src=tpMfg

Before you buy a rifle, try this ammo. Theres also Super Colibre. It won't cycle a semi but then you want quiet. Its great for urban pests.

bigfatdave
July 27, 2011, 05:00 PM
you don't need 22 shorts for a quiet gun. In fact, 22 shorts are MUCH louder than subsonic rounds. IMO, subsonic longs are quieter than subsonic long rifles.

You're obviously missing out on the experience of shooting CB shorts (or longs) in a closed-action rifle.
Quieter than some air rifles might be a more accurate statement, I suppose.

bhk
July 27, 2011, 05:46 PM
I would disagree with that. Out of a medium to long barrelled .22 rifle, I find CCI CBs quieter than my air rifle. The Super Colibris are certainly quieter. Maybe it depends on the air rifle (mine is a Beeman R-9 .20).

CraigC
July 27, 2011, 09:17 PM
doesn't matter. neither one is quieter than an air rifle
More hogwash! CB's, from a barrel of 22" or more, is quieter than most air rifles. Particularly quiet out of the 28" CZ mentioned above.

Badlander
July 27, 2011, 09:31 PM
Marlin 39A shoots great with shorts.

Onward Allusion
July 27, 2011, 09:42 PM
trigun87 (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=102157)
22 short rifles
Im looking to purchase some 22 short rifles. Right now I have one a Glenfield model 25 which is great but i want a new/newer style of gun that shoots 22 shorts and LR. The reason is simple I have a small pest problem and like keeping my dirty work quiet. I also like shooting discreetly in the back yard.10/22 with a 28" long barrel and sub-sonic rounds will be almost as quiet as one with a suppressor.

Remo223
July 27, 2011, 10:59 PM
You're obviously missing out on the experience of shooting CB shorts (or longs) in a closed-action rifle.
Quieter than some air rifles might be a more accurate statement, I suppose.
no. I own all of those kinds of 22 ammo and more. Even a 22 bb cap is louder than an air rifle.

bhk
July 27, 2011, 11:17 PM
no. I own all of those kinds of 22 ammo and more. Even a 22 bb cap is louder than an air rifle.
Your perception seems to be distinctly different than almost everyone elses, including many dozens I have read on other sites over the years. In my rifles, the CBs and Aguillas ARE quieter than my air rifles. After the early posts today, I went out to my patio to verify. Interesting your experience is so much different. I wonder why. Maybe it depends on where we are shooting them (inside, open fields, closed-in woods). Most of my shooting is on my home ranges, which are rather closed in with trees.

I guess thoughtful disagreement and sharing different perceptions is healthly. Have a good evening.

CraigC
July 28, 2011, 12:32 AM
I've been a member on various shooting boards for at least 12yrs. Including a long-standing 9yr membership on RimfireCentral. I've never heard anyone argue that CB's are louder than an airgun before. Welcome to Remo's world.

Shanghai Dan
July 28, 2011, 09:03 AM
Another vote for the Henry - 21 rounds of short is a lot of fun!

As far as measuring the SPL of the rifle on your iPhone, it probably won't work very well. The integration window on most SPL software/meters is much too long to catch the peak. You'd need to make a digital recording of the sound, then go back in and post-process to determine the effective SPL, or use a higher-end acoustic analyzer.

Yes, I am an acoustics engineer...;)

trigun87
July 28, 2011, 11:26 PM
The marlin 981T and the Henry are pretty appealing. I 'm gonna see which one I can get for the lowest price.

lonestardiver
July 31, 2011, 10:04 PM
Also look at the Remington 581s/541 series... You can load up shorts, long or long rifle with out any problem. If I'm after quiet the cci cb long's are quieter than many springer type air rifles and do an effective job with proper bullet placement from my 581s.

GWARGHOUL
August 1, 2011, 12:28 AM
you want quiet get a CZ 452 Ultra Lux. It won't cycle Shorts but with its 28.6" barrel, CB Longs are deathly quiet.

Winchester Model 67. Shoots longs or shorts. Has a 27 inch barrel, supreme accuracy and can be had for around $100. ALL are C&R eligible.

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