.45 ACP with small pistol primers


PDA






JohnnyB
July 27, 2011, 10:30 PM
I recently picked up 157 once fired brass (Federal) off the ground at our local range. It wasn't until I got home that I realized that they use small pistol primers. Has anyone out there used this type of .45 ACP brass before? And if so, what kind of luck have you had with them. Do they shoot the same as the ones with Lg pistol primers? Should I even bother to reload them?
Thanks,
John

If you enjoyed reading about ".45 ACP with small pistol primers" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
ColtPythonElite
July 27, 2011, 10:34 PM
They have been around for several years and will load up and shoot the same as LP primed loads.

Springfield0612
July 27, 2011, 11:13 PM
Send m the SPP .45's and I'll send you the same amount in LPP :)

splithoof
July 27, 2011, 11:40 PM
Have used a bunch for reloading, and all worked very well. Some years back, a brand of imported ball was marketed as "Hansen Cartridge Company", and about half of those used SP primers. If you find any Hansen cases, beware: the primer pockets on all I have seen, either large or small, are a bit deeper, and some guns won't give reliable ignition. The headstamp had a "N-N-Y" of sorts and nothing else.

J2FLAN
July 27, 2011, 11:55 PM
load them for shooting a match, or somewhere you wont get your brass back.

RhinoDefense
July 28, 2011, 12:56 AM
The SPP .45 ACP will be more accurate than the LPP.

Bayou1535
July 28, 2011, 01:37 AM
splithoof, do you know anything about n-n-y 9mm brass. was cleaning a bunch tonight and noticed alot of those. I know this batch is very old.

ArchAngelCD
July 28, 2011, 02:03 AM
There has been several threads recently talking about this. From what everyone tells me they load and shoot just as well as those using a LPP. The only problem I see is if you have both types mixed in together while reloading, that could be a problem... :scrutiny:

FROGO207
July 28, 2011, 06:33 AM
Yep if you have both of them mixed together then you will have a problem PRIMING them if not separated. Other than that I have found no difference when shooting them in my firearms. I personally have not noticed any measurable accuracy improvements using SPP brass at all. YMMV If you switch to all SPP betcha no one will be grabbing your brass at the range either.:evil:

Maj Dad
July 28, 2011, 01:18 PM
The "nny" are the cyrillic characters for PPU, or Privi Partizan. I have some 8x57 Mauser from Privi that are "nny" marked, and all of it I've encountered in any caliber has been well made and within specs.

Bayou1535
July 28, 2011, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the explanation

splithoof
July 28, 2011, 08:35 PM
I have not seen any 9mm brass so marked, only because I don't load for that caliber. However, all that I have used in .45ACP has been of good quality. As another member stated, it seems to be good stuff.

Fishslayer
July 28, 2011, 11:32 PM
Well, after reading a lot of posts I need to find out for myself. I have a pretty good stash of Federal & Speer SPP .45 brass so I rolled up 50 rounds today. I'll try 'em out tomorrow & let y'all know. ;)

Winchester WSP sure went into the *Federal* pockets super slick & easy...

splithoof
July 29, 2011, 01:14 AM
I have had 100% perfect result using Wolf primers in every .45ACP load tried. They feed through a couple of Dillon machines with no problems. The small pistol size for the .45 worked so well that I tried them in .38/357 and several rifle loads using SR & LR also.

Fishslayer
July 29, 2011, 02:16 PM
I have had 100% perfect result using Wolf primers in every .45ACP load tried. They feed through a couple of Dillon machines with no problems. The small pistol size for the .45 worked so well that I tried them in .38/357 and several rifle loads using SR & LR also.

Several have mentioned that they'll use them when they can't find LPP.

During the Great Primer Drought I would have been able to get SRP. If I'd had the SPP brass then I would have been laughing. :D

Another reason I'm thinking the SPP brass might not be all that bad.

Just makein' lemonade here. :D

splithoof
July 29, 2011, 07:34 PM
Would be real nice if there were only ONE SIZE OF PRIMER for most all metalic cartridge cases, with the exception of things like the .50 Browning that gobble up a whole lot more powder.

LBEE
July 29, 2011, 08:29 PM
I am so glad I found this thread, I bought a Box of Federal 45 with the idea to save the Brass, when I tried to seat the primers wouldn't even come close to seating. I was about to throw the Brass away but I'm going to try the Small pistol Primers, I guess the Manf. must be saving pennys installing the small Primers.

Fishslayer
July 29, 2011, 08:53 PM
I guess the Manf. must be saving pennys installing the small Primers.

The SPP .45ACP brass is used for "NT" or "Non Toxic." Fully clad bullets & small primers that put out less nasty stuff.

ReloaderFred
July 29, 2011, 09:45 PM
There has never been a need for a large primer in the .45 acp with it's small volume and low pressures. The Federal and Speer .45 acp brass with SP primers is also some of their regular ammunition, too. You'll find it in both NT and regular brass.

Hope this helps.

Fred

splithoof
July 29, 2011, 09:53 PM
Also beware that some companies CRIMP thier primers in place; I have noticed this mostly with Federal Non-Toxic and Winchester Clean Fire .45ACP using the small pistol primers. You might have to swage the pockets prior to seating a new primer. If you are using a Dillon 1050 it's no problem. Otherwise there could be problems.

Fishslayer
July 30, 2011, 02:07 AM
Ran those 50 rds of *Federal* through a couple of guns today. No discernable difference.

This is good news since going through my brass bucket I found that I've accumulated a ton of the stuff! :D

The *Federal* wasn't crimped. Seating the primer was actually a lot easier than anything else I've used.

If you enjoyed reading about ".45 ACP with small pistol primers" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!