C&R question


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roofgoof
July 28, 2011, 04:01 PM
I had a C&R a while back and I am applying to et a new one. Last time, I had to send in a finger print card. I do not see anywhere on the current app where I have to do this. Was this a recent change or am I missing something?

Thanks

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Owner
July 28, 2011, 04:13 PM
This is very confusing since a fingerprint card is not required for a C&R license nor has one ever been required to my knowledge..if you requested the application from BATF they most likely sent you unneeded fingerprint cards along with the app.

M-Cameron
July 28, 2011, 04:15 PM
i cant say as to how the application was several years ago........but i just got my C&R a few months ago....

literally a matter of printing out the forms...filling out the forms.....and mailing in the forms.

no fingerprinting required.

JoeMal
July 28, 2011, 04:17 PM
i cant say as to how the application was several years ago........but i just got my C&R a few months ago....

literally a matter of printing out the forms...filling out the forms.....and mailing in the forms.

no fingerprinting required.This. I got mine maybe 8-10 months ago and all I had to do was fill out the paperwork. No prints

deadin
July 28, 2011, 04:21 PM
I'm on my second renewal of my current C&R. I also had a another one about 15 years ago that I let expire. I don't remember ever having to send in a fingerprint card.

Owner
July 28, 2011, 04:25 PM
yep no one does because it has never been required..the BATF is know to send un-needed and confusing paperwork along with applications for some odd reason.

hirundo82
July 28, 2011, 07:04 PM
IIRC there were fingerprint cards included in the application since I believe some types of FFLs require prints, but they aren't required for an FFL-03.

JHK94
July 28, 2011, 07:06 PM
Apparently, the pack they send you can be used for several applications. C&R does not require a fingerprint. I think it explains this somewhere in the BATF FAQ's on their website.

roofgoof
July 29, 2011, 09:45 AM
thanks for your responses. Just put the app in the mail. Last time, as some of you suggested, the ATF sent me the paperwork and the card was included. Now I know.

jimmertoons
July 29, 2011, 10:30 PM
Just got my renewel back today. atf recieved the application on May12th. They are running way behind at this time.

Twmaster
July 30, 2011, 04:09 AM
I just downloaded the PDF forms and filled them in.

Got my C&R in 24 days mailbox to mailbox last month.

GWARGHOUL
July 30, 2011, 12:04 PM
My C&R question is, can you buy from internet dealers with it as your FFL, or do you still have to do transfers for like say a new gun (not a C&R gun)?

M-Cameron
July 30, 2011, 12:20 PM
My C&R question is, can you buy from internet dealers with it as your FFL, or do you still have to do transfers for like say a new gun (not a C&R gun)?

the C&R is an FFL.......you can have any gun 50 years or older shipped right to your house......you dont need to have it transferred through your LGS or any other FFL.

but for any "new" guns....they must all be transferred through a dealer.

GWARGHOUL
July 30, 2011, 02:20 PM
So, can a person get a regular FFL for personal use, and occasional business use then?
Four guns a year pretty much pays the FFL costs, does it not?

andrewstorm
July 30, 2011, 02:42 PM
ffl holders are ffl holders,and are noy required to sell any guns,although you must keep records of any non personal transactions,and records have to be availible for unannounced inspection any time........c r holders are held to the same criteria.

El Mariachi
July 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
On a slightly different tangent, have any of you heard of an applicant being turned down/denied a C&R because of their local head LEO guy saying no? For any bizarre reason(s)?......

El Mariachi
July 31, 2011, 10:45 PM
Anyone? Somebody?



Bueller?.......:rolleyes:

dogtown tom
July 31, 2011, 11:19 PM
GWARGHOUL So, can a person get a regular FFL for personal use, and occasional business use then?....
If by "regular FFL" you mean an 01FFL "Dealer in Firearms", then no, absolutely no, positively no. With the exception of the 03FFL "Collector of Curios & Relics", Federal Firearms Licenses are strictly for someone who intends to engage in the business of dealing, manufacturing or importing firearms. ATF is very clear that an FFL is not for personal collecting purposes. A licensee may use his FFL to acquire firearms for personal use, but must show that he intends to engage in the business of dealing in firearms.

dogtown tom
July 31, 2011, 11:23 PM
El Mariachi On a slightly different tangent, have any of you heard of an applicant being turned down/denied a C&R because of their local head LEO guy saying no? For any bizarre reason(s)?......
When applying for an FFL the applicant is required to send a copy to his "chief law enforcement officer" only as notification that he is applying and not for his approval. The chief LEO doesn't get to approve or deny.

El Mariachi
July 31, 2011, 11:36 PM
Thanx Dogtown, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. We just got back from a 30 day/7000 mile road trip----would be most excellent if my C&R is sitting at my local P/Office tomorrow morning......:D

El Mariachi
August 1, 2011, 10:34 PM
Well, fwiw, my C & R was waiting for me today when I got home. License/serial number thingy came in on July 7th, big bag 'o books/pamphlets came in on the ninth. Very nice.

Wish Kali could work this fast......:rolleyes:

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