Gun dealer stops terrorist attack?


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rule303
July 29, 2011, 01:42 PM
I appologize if this has already been discussed, but I didn't see it. I'm surprised this story hasn't gained more attention, but I suppose it is because it goes against all stereotypes of gun dealers, and gun owners in general.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-28/justice/fort.hood.arrest_1_nidal-hasan-guns-galore-abdo?_s=PM:CRIME

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jelayne
July 29, 2011, 02:00 PM
Thats awesome...but you know the major medial outlets don't like to publish articles which go against their agenda.

dogtown tom
July 29, 2011, 02:15 PM
jelayne Thats awesome...but you know the major medial outlets don't like to publish articles which go against their agenda.

It's been covered by every network tv station, radio station and newspaper in Texas........and every radio station aired an interview with the gun shop owner.

Dnaltrop
July 29, 2011, 02:46 PM
The guy arrived in a taxi, went in to buy multiple cans of smokeless powder... then asked how to use it.

I'd certainly hope that any other gun store owner would consider that suspicious enough to make a call as well.

Odd occurences probably make him as nervous as a 9 tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs after he sold the Five-seven to the fort hood shooter.

Ya' done good Sir, keep it up.

jak67429
July 29, 2011, 02:52 PM
Was on nbc Today show this morning.

hso
July 29, 2011, 02:54 PM
On NPR this morning. (http://www.npr.org/2011/07/29/138811950/soldier-held-in-new-hood-plot-condemned-09-attack)

Police in Killeen said their break in the case came Tuesday from Guns Galore LLC — the same gun store where Maj. Nidal Hasan bought a pistol used in the 2009 attack. Store clerk Greg Ebert said Abdo arrived by taxi and bought 6 pounds of smokeless gunpowder, three boxes of shotgun ammunition and a magazine for a semi-automatic pistol.

Ebert said he called authorities because he and his co-workers "felt uncomfortable with his overall demeanor and the fact he didn't know what the hell he was buying."

"We would probably be here today, giving you a different briefing, had he not been stopped," said Killeen Police Chief Dennis Baldwin, who called the plan "a terror plot."

Sounds like it's getting covered by the media.

Smokey in PHX
July 29, 2011, 06:45 PM
Every citizen needs to report suspicious activity. We do not want another Ft Hood tragedy.

CoRoMo
July 29, 2011, 06:52 PM
I'm sitting in Colorado, but I always stream radio stations out of Alaska and Idaho. Even I heard about this through one of those radio streams.

We should expect more attempts like this. It's only a matter of time I suppose.

22-rimfire
July 29, 2011, 06:56 PM
I have to admit that I got a chuckle out of some of national news casts mentioning "smokeless gun powder" and linking this to a terrorist plot in itself. Ya know... who needs smokeless powder? These reporters had no idea that smokelss gun powder is normal. 6 cans is not that much, but the fact that the guy acted suspicious was his downfall. The gunshop did good.

dogtown tom
July 29, 2011, 07:20 PM
22-rimfire I have to admit that I got a chuckle out of some of national news casts mentioning "smokeless gun powder" and linking this to a terrorist plot in itself. Ya know... who needs smokeless powder? These reporters had no idea that smokelss gun powder is normal. 6 cans is not that much, but the fact that the guy acted suspicious was his downfall. The gunshop did good.
The first radio report I heard on this story the reporter called it "smokeless black powder".....I wonder how he could have afforded that stuff it's invisible to x-rays and costs more than I make in a month.:rolleyes:

M-Cameron
July 29, 2011, 07:32 PM
I have to admit that I got a chuckle out of some of national news casts mentioning "smokeless gun powder" and linking this to a terrorist plot in itself. Ya know... who needs smokeless powder? These reporters had no idea that smokelss gun powder is normal. 6 cans is not that much, but the fact that the guy acted suspicious was his downfall. The gunshop did good.

its only a matter of time now before some politicain gets the bright idea to try to ban smokeless powder because it is the choice of snipers and madmen because it produces no smoke so people cannot see where the shot came from.....

Danb1215
July 29, 2011, 07:50 PM
Every citizen needs to report suspicious activity. We do not want another Ft Hood tragedy.
Yeah good luck in your Orwellian Utopia.

scgstuff
July 29, 2011, 08:15 PM
The gun shop needed some good publicity in the area. They had someone walk in 2 weeks ago with ammunition and ask to see a gun. Put a round in and shot himself in the head. Died about 4 days later. This guy was apparently a loose canon already.

Also the same gun shop that Nadal bought his guns for the "Ft Hood Massacre". Glad they could get some good press, usually it is business as usually and no one notices them or negative press since that is what sells in the media.

Dnaltrop
July 29, 2011, 09:11 PM
Welcome to The High Road scgstuff!

scgstuff
July 29, 2011, 09:14 PM
Been here quite a while lurking, reading and learning. Just haven't posted any..... I guess I should post an intro thread....Thanks for the welcome, Hi, I'm Shawn, live in the Central Texas/Fort Hood Texas area.

Dnaltrop
July 29, 2011, 09:23 PM
first post is new enough Neighbor. Welcome to a home for intelligent discourse.:)

303tom
July 29, 2011, 10:19 PM
I applaud this gun shop owner for his due diligence. Way to go buddy !

The Real Wyatt
July 30, 2011, 12:09 AM
Every citizen needs to report suspicious activity. We do not want another Ft Hood tragedy.
OMG! Yes, we need to watch over our brothers ... Sieg Heil!
Surely you don't mean this. You want us to spy on each other?

EmGeeGeorge
July 30, 2011, 12:12 AM
Reporting suspicious activity isn't spying on your neighbor.

I suppose you think the gunshop should've sold the guy the powder?

I encourage all persons to use their brains before they type.

scgstuff
July 30, 2011, 01:12 AM
I suppose you think the gunshop should've sold the guy the powder?

He did sell him the powder, a magazine and some shotgun shells.....then he turned him in.

Double Naught Spy
July 30, 2011, 02:13 AM
Guns Galore also sold the gun to Hasan. So they have had a good bit of bad press already.

isc
July 30, 2011, 03:16 AM
It's ironic that the shop workers probably intuitively used profiling to prevent a horrible crime, and someone here has a problem with that.

Profiling Stops crimes, it isn't a crime.

jerkface11
July 30, 2011, 10:30 AM
It was probably an ATF agent not a terrorist.

lemaymiami
July 30, 2011, 01:56 PM
The guy who called it in gets an "Attaboy" from this corner. Whenever I was asked back in the day about when to call the cops I always simply said, trust your instincts.... If the guy or gal sets off your alarms call it in. Most calls turn out to be nothing and that's why many cops act casually most of the time. If there's nothing to worry about that will be the end of the matter. That one time when the guy is up to something bad you might just save a life or lives... Think of the horrible things in just recent memory that might never have happened if someone called it in and the guy was stopped before he could to the harm.

I'll get down off of my soapbox now....

Neverwinter
July 30, 2011, 04:16 PM
It's ironic that the shop workers probably intuitively used profiling to prevent a horrible crime, and someone here has a problem with that.

Profiling Stops crimes, it isn't a crime.
The shop used behavioral profiling to notice that something was suspicious about the customer. That doesn't make demographic profiling acceptable.

Formula94
July 30, 2011, 07:40 PM
Fox news had a quick story on it about a minute ago...

psyshack
July 31, 2011, 04:42 PM
So they sold him the goods then called him in? Can't stop laughing...............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Danb1215
July 31, 2011, 04:47 PM
So they sold him the goods then called him in? Can't stop laughing...............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
typical sleazy gun store, you can bet they weren't losing the sale.

MrCleanOK
July 31, 2011, 05:08 PM
I'm not saying the shop should or shouldn't have completed the sale. But, had the shop not completed the sale, PFC Abdo may not have had a motel room full of evidence when he was arrested.

SimplyChad
August 1, 2011, 03:52 PM
MRClean please dont address him as the rank he threw away and the unifom he disgraced.

Frogman
August 1, 2011, 05:05 PM
Here in Florida there reporting he bough both Black Powder and Smokeless along with some pistol Mag's.

Double Naught Spy
August 2, 2011, 08:09 AM
MRClean please dont address him as the rank he threw away and the unifom he disgraced.

I don't believe his rank has been removed yet. If not, reference to the rank is appropriate.

Blue Line
August 2, 2011, 10:30 AM
I liked the line durng the interview of the dealer "who goes out to buy a gun in a cab". I thought that was humorous

MrCleanOK
August 2, 2011, 01:44 PM
I wear the same uniform. Until he is discharged, he still has a rank, no matter how much trouble he is in.

dataDyne
August 2, 2011, 01:53 PM
FORT HOOD
July 28, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff

Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo is expected to face federal charges after being arrested in Killeen, Texas, near Fort Hood.

An AWOL Muslim American Army private arrested near Fort Hood has told investigators that he wanted to attack fellow soldiers at the military base, the police chief in Killeen, Texas, said Thursday.


Why is the word muslim in that sentence?

HOOfan_1
August 2, 2011, 01:57 PM
typical sleazy gun store, you can bet they weren't losing the sale.

At the same time, they only had suspiscions, not proof of what he wanted to go. He didn't buy anything regulated by the ATF, so they had no real cause to refuse the sale.

How about if they refused the sale, this guy was just a normal guy with an Arabic name with no ill intentions? Then maybe he goes out and claims prejudice and profiling.

I hardly see where the gun store did anything wrong

"Islam is a much more peaceful and tolerant religion than it is an aggressive religion," he said. "I don't believe that Islam allows me to operate in any kind of warfare at all,"......An AWOL Muslim American Army private arrested near Fort Hood has told investigators that he wanted to attack fellow soldiers at the military base


mmm...hmmmm

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