Toolbox gun....HiPoint?


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Randal45
July 29, 2011, 07:06 PM
I need a handgun that I can place in a toolbox that I cannot worry about. It will be in a holster, banged around a lot, will not bother me if it goes missing, and inexpensive. My current thoughts are that a HiPoint will fill this role. My question is: Will a HiPoint go "bang" when needed? I know that there are better options out there but please keep in mind my criteria. All things aside, are HiPoints reliable?

Thanks for any info!

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withdrawn34
July 29, 2011, 07:26 PM
based on reports, most likely.

You could get a Kel tec though. A bit more spendy but most models are fairly proven.

olderguns
July 29, 2011, 07:26 PM
Yes hi-points are fine the price you pay.
? why a gun in a toolbox mine is either on me or locked in the glovebox.

Dnaltrop
July 29, 2011, 08:15 PM
not touching on my own personal distaste of keeping a gun in a separate container not in my direct control... (well any more than this sentence at least)

Excellent choice for a gun you don't mind destroying... for the price range I usually tell people to get a cz-82, but I'd rather not see one beat up by free-roaming ratchets.

Its exactly why we have cheap guns, not everyone can afford a $500 polymer/300 Bersa etc... and for the folks like you, it's just good economical sense to preserve your nicer weapons.

David E
July 29, 2011, 08:15 PM
It's the PERFECT niche for a Hi Point!

In a pinch, it can double as a hammer........

(be sure the chamber is empty)

Any dents it might incur during such use can only improve its aesthetics......:)

Mike1234567
July 29, 2011, 08:23 PM
It should be fine. Just shoot a couple hundred rounds through it with no FTF or FTE before relying on it... more if you can afford the ammo. Be aware that some folks have issues with the .45 ACP mags which may need tweaking. Mine did. I intend to buy some decent 1911 mags and modify them to lock into the gun so I won't worry about reliability.

Drail
July 29, 2011, 08:28 PM
If you think you're really going to need a gun I wouldn't settle for a HiPoint. You need a gun that's going to be a little more reliable than that. I also don't understand why it can't be protected by a holster just because it's in a toolbox. Any gun that gets treated like that is going to have serious problems in time. I would consider buying a quality firearm and wearing it on my person. It will be faster and closer than a toolbox and it will probably work when you really need it to. Will a HiPoint go bang when needed? I wouldn't bet my life on it. If you need one you need it to work. Of course you can do some serious damage with a large Crescent wrench if you can get close enough.

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 29, 2011, 08:40 PM
I thought the Hi Point was designed for going in a tool box, it even looks like a cordless drill too! Just becareful no one thinks it is and tries to use it or they will put a hole in the wall in a way they weren't expecting.

Drail
July 29, 2011, 08:42 PM
I would almost bet that there are tools in your toolbox that are more lethal and more reliable than anything produced by HiPoint.

Mike1234567
July 29, 2011, 09:24 PM
Oh, gawd... here we go again with the Hi-Point bashing. I'm not fond of them either but they're reliable and tough enough for the OP's intended purpose.

Toforo
July 29, 2011, 10:03 PM
Oh, gawd... here we go again with the Hi-Point bashing. I'm not fond of them either but they're reliable and tough enough for the OP's intended purpose.
THIS - exactly!

And THIS month (July) if you buy the larger Hi-Point 9mm semi-auto, you get 25% off (mail-in rebate) for the cordless drill attachment!

303tom
July 30, 2011, 01:39 AM
I always have kept a .25 ACP in my toolbox.

isc
July 30, 2011, 02:04 AM
hi points are ugly, have crappy low capacity magazines, are big and bulky, and just don't feel good in your hand.

But they are fairly reliable and pretty accurate (thanks to the simple blowback design).

I would never recommend one as a carry piece or primary weapon for serious work, but for a just in case disposable or cache gun they're perfect.

BleysAhrens
July 30, 2011, 02:29 AM
So ugly, but if I had nothing else I would bet my life on mine. I have the c9 and it goes bang and sends lead down range just as well as my P99.

CajunBass
July 30, 2011, 04:22 AM
I guess I just don't understand the concept of a "truck gun" or "tool-box gun" at all, but if you're going to do it, I suppose a Hi-Point will work just as well as anything else. The one I've got works just fine.

stnjohnson
July 30, 2011, 08:09 AM
When you say tool box I assume you mean the one on your truck? Why not use a couple of self tappers or drill some bolt hole and mount a holster just inside the driver's side of the box? It'll save on wear and tear and help keep it clean too.

I have no opinion on the gun, I just don't like any tool getting dinged up and dirty, not matter how cheap.

Mike1234567
July 30, 2011, 11:21 AM
Why not use a couple of self tappers or drill some bolt hole and mount a holster just inside the driver's side of the box? It'll save on wear and tear and help keep it clean too.

Good idea!!

USAF_Vet
July 30, 2011, 11:26 AM
Where are you guys working that you need a gun in the toolbox? You guys doing roofing projects for the mafia or something?

Mike1234567
July 30, 2011, 11:59 AM
USAF_Vet... sometimes roofers do indeed work in some pretty nasty areas.

Dnaltrop
July 30, 2011, 01:41 PM
People don't always get to pick and choose where the job that puts the food on their table is USAF.

Tow truck drivers... construction... surveying work...

Onmilo
July 30, 2011, 03:34 PM
Get an EAA Windicator .357 revolver.
It will be more reliable than a Hi-Point after banging around in a toolbox for a period of time and no magazine spring to go soft and spongy in the meanwhile.

mgmorden
July 30, 2011, 03:45 PM
I guess I just don't understand the concept of a "truck gun" or "tool-box gun" at all,

Same here. Guns are tools, but not in the same sense as a wrench where you use it as part of a group as needed.

If you think you need a gun when you're around the toolbox - wear one.

Mike1234567
July 30, 2011, 03:49 PM
Same here. Guns are tools, but not in the same sense as a wrench where you use it as part of a group as needed.

If you think you need a gun when you're around the toolbox - wear one.
When one is doing manual labor during which there is much movement, e.g. squatting or leaning, then carrying isn't usually an option... such labors and movement can lead to accidents.

Hanzo581
July 30, 2011, 04:12 PM
Uh, get a gun with a manual safety?

Randal45
July 30, 2011, 05:47 PM
When you say tool box I assume you mean the one on your truck? Why not use a couple of self tappers or drill some bolt hole and mount a holster just inside the driver's side of the box? It'll save on wear and tear and help keep it clean too.

No, I do alot of remodeling and it will spend most of its time in a 5 gal bucket in the company of hammers, pipe wrenches, hand saws, etc

khegglie
July 30, 2011, 05:59 PM
No bash..... any rust issues with the Hipoint finish in truck/tool box mode??

PT92
July 31, 2011, 03:33 PM
Go for it--Nothing wrong with my C9 after numerous trips to the range nor my HP carbine. Certainly not showcase items but they do what they are designed for in a very frugal manner.

-Cheers

dgray64
July 31, 2011, 05:01 PM
Personally, I never understood "ugly". People say that Glocks and Hi-Points are ugly, but they seem to always go "bang" when you pull the trigger. Hi-Points are single action so if you don't trust the safety, you need to leave the chamber empty. My C9 works great. Actually, I have owned one of each caliber and only sold them so that I could try other manufacturers models. Each was reliable and, each was accurate. My two cents.

Dave :)

rondog
July 31, 2011, 06:00 PM
Hi-Points are single action

You sure about that? Does it have a hammer that you have to cock first in order to fire it?

But to the OP, I say yes...a HP would be a good choice for your tool bucket gun. I think I'd mount the holster to the side of the bucket with a couple of bolts so the gun stays in place, so you know where it is and can reach it quickly without having to fish around for it in the bucket. I think it's a good idea. Bring us photos please!

antiquus
July 31, 2011, 06:50 PM
One thing you could look for is a P-64, PA-63 or Makarov with holster. The holster covers nearly completely and has a spot for the extra mag. The CZ-82's holster doesn't cover as well, the mag case is separate.

As for Hi Point's, I thought the argument was over after the set of four videos that started with this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg&feature=relmfu)

SonicmetalicS
July 31, 2011, 07:51 PM
I would have to recommend against using it as a hammer
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/ArmedSuspect/hipoint/IMGA02651.jpg

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 31, 2011, 08:09 PM
You sure about that? Does it have a hammer that you have to cock first in order to fire it?

Doesn't need a hammer to be a single action, my XD40 is a single action with a internal striker.

mgmorden
July 31, 2011, 08:49 PM
You sure about that? Does it have a hammer that you have to cock first in order to fire it?

Doesn't need to have a hammer to be single action - only that the sear merely releases the hammer or striker without any further rearward motion during the trigger-pull.

stonecutter2
July 31, 2011, 09:02 PM
One thing you could look for is a P-64, PA-63 or Makarov with holster. The holster covers nearly completely and has a spot for the extra mag. The CZ-82's holster doesn't cover as well, the mag case is separate.

As for Hi Point's, I thought the argument was over after the set of four videos that started with this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg&feature=relmfu)
Yeah the P64 leather holster or Makarov holster seem ideal for fitting into the bottom of a 5 gal bucket. Even keeps the extra mag safe. You'd get the pistol, holster, 2 mags and cleaning rod at Aimsurplus for $200 for the P64.

Viper
August 6, 2011, 03:10 PM
Not quite the same thing but I use a C9 for my car gun. I determined some time ago that it was reliable enough, so I pull it out every 3 or 4 months, clean and lube it, rotate the ammo, and let it ride.

Zach S
August 6, 2011, 05:35 PM
When I was shopping for a beater pistol a few years ago, a high-point was considered, as well as a few others.

Several factors were considered, such as cost, size, parts/magazine availability, reliability, ease of maintenance, and something I don't really like so I didn't feel any remorse about it getting beat up.

I went with a Glock 19. If anything breaks I can get a replacement part, magazines are just about always in stock, just about anywhere, and it has a bulletproof finish.

I know a Glock may be a little expensive to be a beater, but it has served its role well over the past few years. If it gets damaged beyond repair or stolen, I'll replace it with another.

I just don't like any tool getting dinged up and dirty, not matter how cheap. I'm just the opposite. Some of my tools are precision instruments and treated as such (torque wrench, calipers, mics, etc). Some of my guns are babied as well (my thompson and grandfather's 10-22).

All of my other tools have scratches, dents, and dings through honest use and a little abuse. Doesn't matter if it was made by Ford, Honda, Titan, Snap-On, Craftsman, Proto, RRA, CMMG, Mossberg, or Kimber. I bought them to use them - and with one look at them, you can see that.

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