Ruger SR 1911 or Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced


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TAB56
July 31, 2011, 12:30 AM
Maybe you guys can help me out, looking to get a SR 1911 or a Remington 1911 R1 enhanced what are the pros and cons of the two and which do you think is a better Pistol Thanks for any input it would be much appreciated.

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pikid89
July 31, 2011, 12:34 AM
the most obvious decision you'll have to make is if you want black (R1) or Stainless (SR1911)

the SR1911 is a like a series 70 1911

the R1 is like a Series 80 1911, that has the additional firing pin safety

me?, id get the Ruger, but then again I am a pretty big ruger fan

SwampWolf
July 31, 2011, 12:54 AM
Another consideration might be: Do you prefer a plastic mainspring housing or a metal one?

Edit: Both are metal. Don't know how I ever got to thinking otherwise. Sorry for the misinformation.

sjvcon
July 31, 2011, 01:27 AM
Which one has plastic and which one metal? I'm trying to make the same decision.

Fishslayer
July 31, 2011, 02:58 AM
No brainer for me. SR1911. Of course, we can't get those in Kalifornistan.:(

Apocalypse-Now
July 31, 2011, 03:00 AM
i haven't seen a ruger sr1911 in person yet, but there's no way i would purchase a Remington 1911. the quality has been very poor on all i've seen.

ugaarguy
July 31, 2011, 03:32 AM
Why limit yourself to two of the newest 1911s on the market? There are alternatives in the same price range with proven track records.

Apocalypse-Now
July 31, 2011, 03:53 AM
^^i agree.


the OP didn't mention other interests, but i would go for a springfield armory mil spec or operator over either of those two.

txgunsuscg
July 31, 2011, 09:48 AM
i haven't seen a ruger sr1911 in person yet, but there's no way i would purchase a Remington 1911. the quality has been very poor on all i've seen.
How many have you seen? I went to the gun show last weekend and handled several, and I own an R1, and it shoots just as well as my Springfield or my Colt and looks just as good. I think the biggest issue with deciding on an R1 is that I keep seeing models that they don't have listed on their site. Remington only lists 2 models (not counting the centennial models), but I have seen at least 4 at gun shows.

InkEd
July 31, 2011, 11:24 AM
Ruger without question. Consider a SA Mil-Spec too.

JDGray
July 31, 2011, 11:32 AM
I waited for the Ruger too long, and ended up with a SA Milspec. I like the 70 series, without the FP block, and is why I didn't consider a Remington.

Zerodefect
July 31, 2011, 11:47 AM
If the GI style Rem floats your boat, then don't pass up the oportunity to get one of these:

http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/ColtPistols/100thAnniversaryModels.aspx
Colt O1911ANVIII

nonlinr
July 31, 2011, 06:52 PM
I have a R1 Enhanced and the mainspring housing is metal. I saw a review on the plain RI (http://www.realguns.com/articles/261.htm) that says it is metal as well. I like the Remington quite a bit. It shoots very well and I am quite happy with the purchase. I hear great things about the Ruger but haven't seen one in person yet.

rich642z
July 31, 2011, 07:10 PM
SR1911,We love em.

Apocalypse-Now
July 31, 2011, 11:21 PM
How many have you seen? I went to the gun show last weekend and handled several, and I own an R1, and it shoots just as well as my Springfield or my Colt and looks just as good. I think the biggest issue with deciding on an R1 is that I keep seeing models that they don't have listed on their site. Remington only lists 2 models (not counting the centennial models), but I have seen at least 4 at gun shows.

more than a few. i won't go into detail, so as not to offend anyone. ;)

whalerman
July 31, 2011, 11:28 PM
There was also discussion about whether one frame was forged and the other wasn't. I'm not knowledgeable about these concerns, but I know lots of guys had opinions on which frame would hold up better.

Apocalypse-Now
July 31, 2011, 11:29 PM
neither the ruger nor the remington have forged frames. they're both cast.

JDGray
August 1, 2011, 05:01 PM
There was also discussion about whether one frame was forged and the other wasn't. I'm not knowledgeable about these concerns, but I know lots of guys had opinions on which frame would hold up better.

This one!:D
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=2

Not sure if the frames will outlast a good cast frame though, most of us can't afford to shoot a frame bad....

txgunsuscg
August 1, 2011, 06:47 PM
more than a few. i won't go into detail, so as not to offend anyone. ;)
I would love for you to go into detail. I won't be offended, but I was planning on doing some light modification to my R1 and possibly using it as a carry gun, so if there are quality issues present, I need to know what to look for....

Hondo 60
August 1, 2011, 11:16 PM
I've handled both & they seemed to be nice.
Both in the same price range.

But I bought an American Classic II.
Just as nice as the Ruger & Remington, but it was about $150 cheaper.
I've had it for a month now & have fired about 500 rounds through it.
Still love it, still glad I bought it.

http://www.americanclassic1911.com/classic-ii-model.html

sjvcon
August 2, 2011, 12:35 AM
Well, I am on 2 waiting lists now for the Ruger. I was going to do a Fusion build myself, but for less than the money of the Frame/Slide kit, this will give me a great platform. Have to admit, I'd rather have the Fusion, but I'd be $1500 in plus all my labor ... and God forbid I'd screw it up or anything.

PRM
August 3, 2011, 06:55 PM
I have had a Remington R1 for about 2 months now. Its an all around great 1911. So far has functioned flawless with aftermarket, Colt and Remington mags.

I got mine off of Gun Broker for $539. The going price seems to be in the $550s to low $600s. MSRP is $699.

The Remington came standard with a match barrel, SS bushing, lowered ejection port, beveled magazine well, and three dot sights which were all the upgrades I wanted.

Both are great companies known for producing good guns. A person would probably be satisfied with either. Do you want black or stainless.

watson
August 4, 2011, 03:19 PM
IMHO....... Both of them are made by decent manufacturers.

However one fact that I keep coming back to is that the Ruger is stainless steel. If your in an area where rust is an issue... (Me being in the Pacific Northwest)......... this is a MUST.


Just my .02

wristtwister
August 4, 2011, 10:45 PM
I'm having the same problem with the SR's that I had with the R1's... there aren't any available. Seems the whole gun industry is now "allocating" guns to the distributors, so while they advertise the guns to be "readily available", they are only readily available if you happen to be dealing with a sales distributor who has some. I had a running internet discussion with Remington about how "readily available" their R1's were, right up to the point of emailing the factory a distributor's telephone number that would cut them a check for 500 of them that day... no soap. They argued like hell that you could get one "almost anytime", but the 10 different suppliers we used hadn't seen but a few, and in 11 months we only had 4 come through the shop... and 2 of those were transfers.

They take orders at the Shot Show, and have a 30 or 40 thousand gun backorder before they ever produce the first thing on the factory floor... but they're wide open with advertising and spreading fertilizer about the guns. We spend as much time trying to get customers to settle down when they find out the guns aren't to be had for 11 or 12 months as we do selling anything... and of course, WE're lying to the customers when we tell them none of the distributors have any of their products available... as if we make money having them walk off in a huff and go to another gun store for the same thing.

We finally got 2 R1's in, and after I sold the first one, I put the other one in the safe to simply use as a sales tool... to show serious 1911 buffs what the R1 was and how it looked... I managed to keep it for 3 weeks before I was forced to sell it by the store owner, and we're still getting the "none available" from the distributors.... See a pattern here?

I'd love to take an SR1911 to the range and bring back a full report... but so far, the same 10 distributors that don't have the Remingtons don't have the Rugers... Looks to me like if the economy sucks this bad, they would do anything to put out their products for sale... we can sell them by the dozen if we could ever get any.

When the SR-9 came out, I bought one two months after they hit the market... best gun out of the box I've ever owned. I sent it back for the recall, and it's never wavered. When the SR-40 came out... same thing. When I saw the SR-9C, I bought one of them to keep on my hip... and I have an SR-40C backordered... but I haven't even SEEN an SR-1911... but of course, we only keep an inventory of about 1600 guns and get in 25 to 30 a week. I've personally sold over 20 Rugers since the middle of June... and would have sold another 25 or 30 had they been available... so please, manufacturers, stop with the fairy stories and put the production floors to work getting some products out. There's 24 hours in a day, and you can run more than one shift...

WT

Vern Humphrey
August 5, 2011, 12:23 PM
the R1 is like a Series 80 1911, that has the additional firing pin safety
The R1 has a titanium firing pin, which has such low mass that it can pass the California drop test without firing, and needs no firing pin safety.

Jonah71
August 5, 2011, 01:07 PM
I'm waiting on my SR 1911 now. I really can't afford it, but what's that got to do with anything? It will be the 2nd gun this year I've bought without firing or even touching one. Not a good idea. I lucked out on the CZ Phantom, maybe I will with the SR 1911.

J. Sheriff
August 9, 2011, 01:42 PM
I called remington and got some info on the R1. Just trying to get the truth out there the slide and frame are both forged. That makes the steel a more robust grain formation meaning it will last longer. I have not done any home work on the Sr 1911 and have not shot ether so I have no way to know what one is better. I can tell you a kimber custom can be had for cheaper than the Sr and the R1 enhanced on Gunbroker. That company is all about good 1911 even after the occasional slip in qc.

NMBrian
August 9, 2011, 01:47 PM
I own an R1 that I have customized quite a bit (beavertail, extended thumb safety, new hammer/sear). Its been literally, 100%, no failures before or after modifications.

I don't think either one of them will treat you wrong. I have only handled the SR1911. It seemed as well made as my Remmy. Both are American made.

You're in good hands with either.

modrifle3
July 23, 2012, 11:22 AM
I own both the SR1911 and the R1 and they are both great accurate guns.

Both have a steel machined slides and investment cast frames. My question to everyone bashing the cast frame. Has anyone actually seen a cast frame break. Besides it isn't like the old days where cast iron was as brittle as a flower pot. Investment casting and MIM produce very high quality and very strong parts. The finish may be a bit rougher that machined steel, but we are talking about guns that sell for $600 to $800 instead of well over a $1000. Even Colt uses MIM parts and plastic in some of their models to keep the cost down. Besides only 1% of 1911 owners will ever put enough rounds through one to wear the frame out, whether machined, forged or cast.

I also would not call the quality of the R1 poor. It is made in an economical manner so everyone can afford it. The accuracy of both these guns is the same as a Wilson or Kimber in most peoples hands. If you can out shoot one of these two guns, you shouldn't be looking at them anyway.

Mr.Revolverguy
July 23, 2012, 12:59 PM
Here is a review of the SR1911 complete with pictures and a follow up review where the SR1911 was shot from Ransom Rest.

SR1911 Review (http://www.dayattherange.com/?p=1612)

SR1911 Shot in a Ransom Rest (http://www.dayattherange.com/?p=1660)

460Kodiak
July 23, 2012, 03:54 PM
Try looking at the S&W E series also. That's what I got and I love it.

Of the two you listed, I'd go with the ruger personally.

MYREDTAIL
August 25, 2012, 07:04 PM
The Rem looks more like a GI series gun, than the SR1911 the Rem does not have a Bevertail + some of the extra's that come with the Ruger, Like a SS finish match trigger etc. I elected the SR191 for my decision. Now that's just me. :cool:

ColdDayInHell
August 25, 2012, 07:27 PM
Sr1911

asia331
August 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
Have absolutely nothing against the Remmy R1 as I've never shot one. What I can say is I am really very pleased with my SR1911.

hAkron
August 26, 2012, 09:17 AM
SR-1911 -- if you can find one!

TennJed
August 26, 2012, 05:15 PM
I have a stainless (not enhanced) Remington R1 and it shoots every bit as good as my father in laws Colt, S&W, and Kimber. Looks just as good too.

TennJed
August 26, 2012, 05:18 PM
more than a few. i won't go into detail, so as not to offend anyone. ;)

I would love for you to go into detail. I don't think you will offend anyone as long as you are honest and respectful

Rusty Luck
August 26, 2012, 10:21 PM
Easy! Ruger, great CS, great product. Shoots great out of the box.

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