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outdoorman63
January 21, 2004, 05:22 PM
i am getting ready to place an order and wondered what everyone else has tried in the surplus ammo on the market now and what they think of it..i see mainly australian and indian.....

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Carnitas
January 21, 2004, 05:28 PM
The Australian is fantastic. Far better than it has the right to be given the price. The Port. is also very good. However the Port. has a thin steel inner jacket that attracts a magnet. This may make a difference on some ranges. The brittish Radway is ok (groups poorly, but is clean and reliable). The indian is suposed to be Cr@p.

DMK
January 21, 2004, 10:05 PM
I shoot Portugese, Australian and South African in my Garand and FAL. In the fresh and professionally rebuild Garand (the more accurate rifle of the two), they all shoot groups about the same size (between 2" and 3" @ 100 Yards). All are 100% reliable and very clean.

The Australian may even be a little cleaner and maybe slightly more consistant, but that perception could even be due to the power of suggestion from all the rave reviews I've read about it.

Like Carnitas, I've also heard the Indian is garbage. I've never tried it, but every review I've read on multiple forums says don't buy it, so I don't.

Redlg155
January 21, 2004, 10:12 PM
Australian surplus has been getting pretty good reviews lately. I'm about to order some to try for myself. Dans Ammo (http://danssportinggoods.com/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=6670695.26507*7z4-x2&product=Ammo_.308&cart_id=6670695.26507*Ig8tZ1) has pretty decent prices on the stuff. 800 rounds of .308 for $125.00.

I've mainly used Port Surplus with pretty good results. I've also used CAVIM and did not have any problems, but a few folks do report problems with the stuff.

I've only seen the Indian stuff. Never shot it. I've also heard it was pretty rough stuff.

Good Shooting
Red

cheygriz
January 22, 2004, 12:11 AM
I've had good luck with Portugese, South African, and Australian. Haven't tried Radway.

AVOID INDIAN LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!!!

MarineTech
January 22, 2004, 11:15 AM
As listed above, there are quite a few types of surplus out there that are much sought after.

Australian, Portugese, South African, Radway Green (British, usually de-linked MG ammo), Hirtenberger (Austrian), and Santa Barbara (Spanish) are all excellent for 7.62mm service rifle plinking.

Most folks avoid the Indian ammo like the plague though. Apparently there were a couple lots of it that came over that had factory rejects mixed in with it. Many people have reported having no problems, but others have reported poor accuracy, squib loads, and even rounds that have caused damage to the weapon. Considering how cheaply you can find the other surplus ammo types, it's up to you whether you want to try and save a few more dollars and run the risks.

Telperion
January 22, 2004, 11:21 AM
The Australian surplus in cans also comes with some very nice bandoliers. :)

HankB
January 22, 2004, 11:24 AM
South African and Australian work fine. I've heard good things about Portugese ammo, but don't like to run a lot of steel-jacketed stuff down my barrel, even if it does have a light copper wash.

Never heard anything good about Indian, some lots of Venezuelan (CAVIM?) were overpressure, and I heard there's some "counterfeit" Radway ammo floating around.

outdoorman63
January 22, 2004, 03:44 PM
i thank you all for the input..think i am going to go with the australian

geekWithA.45
January 22, 2004, 09:24 PM
In case anyone missed it

DO NOT GET INDIAN .308 MILSURP!


I say again

DO NOT GET .308 MILSURP FROM INDIA!

chuckles
January 22, 2004, 10:04 PM
Like the others have said, Aussie is the best right now. Where you live, Midway is probably the cheapest shipping. I think they have a sale going for $34.95 per 200 round can. Nice bandos and cans too. The newer Aussie in the blister packs is as good if not better and cheaper shipping. Like they say: "buy it cheap and stack it deep, you'll need it".

sigman4rt
January 24, 2004, 03:38 PM
The port., south african and the r.g. shoot great 2 to 3 inches. The Australian is SIMPLY MARVELOUS!!!!! The indian is SIMPLY HORRIBLE!!!! ithink they usd soft coal instead of powder, the cases are dented and dinged up, plus the head stamps are from different years, so they have been unpackaged and repackaged how many times? The Australian is all in arsenal sealed 30 cal. ammo cans. Very good stuff!!

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
January 24, 2004, 06:35 PM
I bought 200 rounds of Australian in the sealed ammo cans w/ bandoliers a couple of weeks ago. Love it. Works well through my FAL. Bandoliers are quality, comes on stripper clips too. I probably overpaid for it. Got it at Cheaper Than Dirt's retail store in Ft. Worth and paid $30 IIRC.

Regards,
Rabbit.

sigman4rt
January 24, 2004, 07:17 PM
I got it delivered to my door from dansammo.com for $154.00 a case(800 rounds). Factory sealed from AFF in australia, open the can and smell australian air. AHHHHH!!!!

Tropical Z
January 24, 2004, 07:59 PM
Anyone know what country J&G's is?

outdoorman63
January 25, 2004, 04:18 PM
bought the portugese...will let you all know how it shoots.....

FireInTheHole
January 25, 2004, 09:40 PM
What is the date of manufacture on the port? I've had some ftf probs with '79 port.

raz-0
January 26, 2004, 01:21 AM
I have a bunch of portugese. One lot is fantastic. The other lot is all over the place. It's safe enough, but you can feel and hear that there just isn't the same oomph in every cartridge.

outdoorman63
January 27, 2004, 05:59 PM
my lot seems to be 1981 stuff..we shall see as soon as the weather warms up if it is any good

PAC 762
January 27, 2004, 08:21 PM
I'd go with Hirtenberger if you can find it for a reasonable price.

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