Are there any speed loaders available for the Ruger LCR .38 +P revolver


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stinger 327
August 9, 2011, 04:20 AM
I haven't been able to locate speedloaders for this gun. If available what company and model number of speedloader?:confused:

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Lawdawg45
August 9, 2011, 07:12 AM
Would it require a different one than for the standard J-Frame?

LD45

Pegwedge
August 9, 2011, 10:47 AM
Ruger sells a HKS 36 on shopruger.com (http://www.shopruger.com) under LCR accessories. Of course you can find them elsewhere as well, just saying that's what Ruger lists.

redbullitt
August 9, 2011, 11:50 AM
The one I use for my sp101 fits the lcr just fine.

Lucky Derby
August 9, 2011, 01:05 PM
The HKS 36A should work just fine, as should any made for .38/.357 S&W J frames.

bergmen
August 9, 2011, 02:31 PM
It is listed but interferes with the grip (I have the CT laser grip on mine). I found a speed loader specially designed for the LCR made by 5 Star Firearms (www.5starfirearms.com) that fit perfectly.

I'll post pictures if anyone needs to see them.

Dan

ColtPythonElite
August 9, 2011, 02:33 PM
You might give Bianchi Speed Strips a try. They are easier to carry than round speedloaders.

rich642z
August 9, 2011, 04:17 PM
Peoples who say that the HKS 36 doesnt work,will work for the LCR in either caliber. You have to do it right and it takes very little practice. I have taught many LCR owners how to do it 2 to 4 times before they did it on their own. One,you put the edge of the 36 speed loader almost against the left side of the grip where it is flat and then line up the ammo along the charge holes and slide them in and turn the knob and it releases the ammo into the cylinder. Practice for a while and you will see how it works and practice with it with the gun barrel pointed downward. It's easy. Works for my LCR's and SP101's.

bergmen
August 9, 2011, 05:24 PM
Peoples who say that the HKS 36 doesnt work,will work for the LCR in either caliber. You have to do it right and it takes very little practice. I have taught many LCR owners how to do it 2 to 4 times before they did it on their own. One,you put the edge of the 36 speed loader almost against the left side of the grip where it is flat and then line up the ammo along the charge holes and slide them in and turn the knob and it releases the ammo into the cylinder. Practice for a while and you will see how it works and practice with it with the gun barrel pointed downward. It's easy. Works for my LCR's and SP101's.

Well, my HKS 36 speed loaders do not fit in my LCR at all, no matter what I do. The loader stops at the edge of the brass and is at an angle to the cylinder making a very insecure loading situation that is incompatible to a defense readiness situation:

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/46363/2475142620053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

If I force it forward, it jams making it impossible to release the cartridges and remove the loader:

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/46331/2503041050053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

The 5 Star on the otherhand drops right in without any interference at all:

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/47601/2719776720053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

Plenty of freeplay and easy to release.

Here is a comparo:

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/48657/2111186620053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

The HKS 36 works perfectly with our S&W Airweights but not the LCRs.

Dan

rich642z
August 9, 2011, 10:52 PM
Bergman,did you have the bullets facing downward???? doesn't look like it in the pics. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that's how it is suppose to be. the brass will stick out some what but,will not fall out. Your pics show how the ammo is suppose to go in but,the first pic showed cocked eyed somewhat. The HKS speed loader is suppose to be barely touching the grip to get them straight in to charge holes.

rich642z
August 9, 2011, 10:56 PM
One more thing Bergman,since I do wholesales in firearms and gunsmithing,I have some of my customers that have the same problem and like I said before,Practice and quit complaing about small stuff. Yoi will get the hang of it with P R A C T I C E .

bergmen
August 10, 2011, 12:55 AM
Bergman,did you have the bullets facing downward???? doesn't look like it in the pics. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that's how it is suppose to be. the brass will stick out some what but,will not fall out. Your pics show how the ammo is suppose to go in but,the first pic showed cocked eyed somewhat. The HKS speed loader is suppose to be barely touching the grip to get them straight in to charge holes.

It is cockeyed because it jams against the grips, it is too large in diameter.

The diameter of the HKS Speed loader is 1.338 inches, the cylinder diameter on the LCR is 1.278. The inboard edge of the LCR cylinder, at it's fully open position is still inside of the thinnest edge of the grip.

At the minimum, it takes a speed loader of less diameter than the cylinder to keep from jamming. The widest dimension of the 5 star loader is 1.265 (it is scalloped, difficult to get an actual diameter).

The HKS loader does not fit. It jams every time, every way.

Dan

bergmen
August 10, 2011, 01:09 AM
One more thing Bergman,since I do wholesales in firearms and gunsmithing,I have some of my customers that have the same problem and like I said before,Practice and quit complaing about small stuff. Yoi will get the hang of it with P R A C T I C E .

Practice? Practice what? a continuously jamming situation that is potentially worthless in a defensive reload scenario?

The HKS loaders DO NOT WORK with our LCRs with the CT laser grips. There is NO WAY to keep them from jamming solid no matter what the heck I do, period.

If you are in California, I'll give you $100.00 if you can load this thing from an HKS without jamming.

Here are two more pics. I started vertically like you said and instant jam:

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/48696/2780820510053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/46511/2364309130053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

The release knob will not turn, it's jammed. Pushing it further just locks it solid as a rock.

I don't know how much clearer I can make it, the freakin' things do not work.

The 5 stars work perfectly, no need to practice at all, no different than all of the other DA revolvers I have that are slick to speed load with no need to practice.

Dan

bergmen
August 10, 2011, 02:22 AM
This is straight from the Ruger website (HKS 36):

http://shopruger.com/LCR-SP101-Speed-Loader/productinfo/12020/

Does not fit the LCR™ with CT Lasergrips®.

Are you convinced now?

Dan

stinger 327
August 10, 2011, 02:23 AM
some of us here don't have the laser grip but have the grip that comes with the night front sight. So will the HK 36A work?

stinger 327
August 10, 2011, 02:26 AM
It is listed but interferes with the grip (I have the CT laser grip on mine). I found a speed loader specially designed for the LCR made by 5 Star Firearms (www.5starfirearms.com) that fit perfectly.

I'll post pictures if anyone needs to see them.

Dan
is that $99.00 for one speedloader?

stinger 327
August 10, 2011, 02:39 AM
This is straight from the Ruger website (HKS 36):

http://shopruger.com/LCR-SP101-Speed-Loader/productinfo/12020/

Does not fit the LCR™ with CT Lasergrips®.

Are you convinced now?

Dan
yes thanks for the info. Those others that cost $99.00 are way too much.

bergmen
August 10, 2011, 02:53 AM
is that $99.00 for one speedloader?

Bottom of this page:

http://www.5starfirearms.com/357_j_2.html

$19.95 each. A little spendy but they are beautifully machined and work slick as a baby's butt.

Dan

stinger 327
August 10, 2011, 03:01 AM
bottom of this page:

http://www.5starfirearms.com/357_j_2.html

$19.95 each. A little spendy but they are beautifully machined and work slick as a baby's butt.

Dan
ok well that's not as bad as i thought. Though i'm guessing the ruger speedloaders are probably 10.00 a piece?
This five star set up looks like that company that sells speedloaders for the 617 a kit that will hold the rounds .22lr inside a board and speedloaders to remove rounds. I forget the name of company but i can find out if anyone is interested. I bought one with 2 speedloaders for s & w 617 because i couldn't find any speedloaders for this gun but it just so happens this is made especially for 617's for some type of matches they have.

stinger 327
August 10, 2011, 03:03 AM
Bottom of this page:

http://www.5starfirearms.com/357_j_2.html

$19.95 each. A little spendy but they are beautifully machined and work slick as a baby's butt.

Dan
Actually I was going to purchase 4 speedloaders for the LCR +P .38 but I might settle for two of these speedloaders.

redbullitt
August 10, 2011, 01:08 PM
Just have the regular hogue grips on mine. It does contact the side slightly, but seems to work just fine. I havent used the laser grips or the smaller boot grip though.

rich642z
August 10, 2011, 10:39 PM
I thought he had the Houge grips also not the crimson trace. Crimson trace doesn't do me any good anyway but you could kinda smooth the left side of the grip on the crimson if,I am not mistaken. But, if you put the Houge grips back on it will fit the charge holes.

Triggernosis
August 11, 2011, 11:05 AM
You might give Bianchi Speed Strips a try. They are easier to carry than round speedloaders.
+1 on that. Go to Youtube to see a video of our very own Mas. Ayoob showing how to load them. And another video showing how fast they can be compared to a speedloader.
They fit in my pocket much better than a speedloader, too.

stinger 327
August 11, 2011, 02:03 PM
Just have the regular hogue grips on mine. It does contact the side slightly, but seems to work just fine. I havent used the laser grips or the smaller boot grip though.
I didn't care for the boot grips on .38 LCR. Not much to hold onto but good for conceal carry.

snakyjake
August 16, 2011, 05:54 PM
How does the HK 36A compare to the 5-Star?
Is the 5-Star nicer?
What's the difference in operation?

bergmen
August 16, 2011, 07:01 PM
How does the HK 36A compare to the 5-Star?
Is the 5-Star nicer?
What's the difference in operation?

In my opinion, yes. They are precision machined from aluminum and operate as smooth as butter. The operation is identical to the HKS loaders only with a larger hex knob instead of a knurled knob.

They're darned purty also. I plan to have them hard gray anodized at some point soon since I have some motorcycle engine mount plates that I need to have anodized and I'll include these parts.

Dan

MK11
August 17, 2011, 02:41 PM
HKS DOES work with the regular Hogue grip, but be prepared to rip it out rather than just drop it. Safariland not at all. Those 5-Stars look nice, I'll have to pick some up.

stinger 327
August 17, 2011, 02:53 PM
HKS DOES work with the regular Hogue grip, but be prepared to rip it out rather than just drop it. Safariland not at all. Those 5-Stars look nice, I'll have to pick some up.
The 5 stars do look great. Is the place mentioned in here the only place to get these?

bergmen
August 17, 2011, 03:10 PM
The 5 stars do look great. Is the place mentioned in here the only place to get these?

That's the only place I looked and I bought them from the source. Not sure if they are carried at distributors.

Dan

stinger 327
August 17, 2011, 03:24 PM
That's the only place I looked and I bought them from the source. Not sure if they are carried at distributors.

Dan
I see they also sell blocks with these speed loaders for home or range. I'll probably just get the speedloader at 19.95 a piece

stinger 327
September 2, 2011, 01:43 AM
well, my hks 36 speed loaders do not fit in my lcr at all, no matter what i do. The loader stops at the edge of the brass and is at an angle to the cylinder making a very insecure loading situation that is incompatible to a defense readiness situation:

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/46363/2475142620053667879s600x600q85.jpg

if i force it forward, it jams making it impossible to release the cartridges and remove the loader:

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/46331/2503041050053667879s600x600q85.jpg

the 5 star on the otherhand drops right in without any interference at all:

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/47601/2719776720053667879s600x600q85.jpg

plenty of freeplay and easy to release.

Here is a comparo:

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/48657/2111186620053667879s600x600q85.jpg

the hks 36 works perfectly with our s&w airweights but not the lcrs.

Dan
so it is clearly the better speedloader over the hk is the aluminum one for a .38 +p ruger lcr.

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