Attention New York gun owners...


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IrvJr
January 22, 2004, 10:28 AM
I received an e-mail from a friend regarding a proposal in Governor Pataki's new budget to include new pistol/handgun license fees and to require that all applicants renew their license (and pay a fee) every five years..

It's time to contact your elected officials...

> New Pistol License Fees Proposed In Pataki Budget
> Plan:
>
> Part I - Establish a State licensing fee on pistol
> and revolver permits and an expiration date for all
> gun licenses.
>
> This bill imposes a State fee on pistol permits.
>
> Section 400.00 of the Penal Law is amended to impose
> State licensing fees on pistol permits. The fee
> schedule is as follows: a $100 fee is imposed on new
> and renewal pistol or revolver licenses; a $25 fee
> for each permit amendment; a $100 fee on gunsmith
> and dealer licenses; a $25 fee on duplicate
> licenses; and a $25 fee on license transfers.
> Additionally, caps on local fees are removed and
> such fees will be determined by the appropriate
> county legislature or the New York City Council.
>
> This bill also establishes a five-year expiration

> for gun licenses issued outside of New York City and
> Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester counties, where
> permit expiration dates already exist. All current
> holders of lifetime licenses will need to have their
> licenses certified prior to February 1, 2005. These
> certifications will expire on a five-year prorated
> basis in accordance with a schedule determined by
> the Superintendent of State Police.
>
> This bill further amends the Penal Law to mandate
> that for the recertification of a gun license a
> National Instant Background Check System (NICS)
> search shall be conducted instead of requiring the
> resubmission of the applicant's fingerprints.
>
> Currently, local fees are authorized in statute for
> gun licenses. In New York City and Nassau County,
> local legislative bodies can establish a fee for a
> pistol license at any amount, whereas in counties
> outside of New York City and Nassau the fee must be
>
> between $3 and $10. Additional local fees for gun

> dealers, license amendments, duplicate licenses, and
> license transfers are defined. There are no current
> State fees.
>
> The expiration periods are also set in statute. In
> New York City, licenses are valid for three years.
> In Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester counties,
> licenses are valid for five years. In all other
> counties, gun licenses do not expire.
>
> With the information acquired through the new
> licensing process, the State Police will be able to
> maintain an updated database on all licensed
> handguns in the State. Better tracking of handgun
> ownership will aid law enforcement efforts and
> consequently enhance public safety.
>

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mete
January 22, 2004, 10:56 AM
" enhance public safety" by taking our money , where have I heard that before ? PA does it cheaper than that . How about making all permits unrestricted like mine ?

FirePower
January 22, 2004, 03:16 PM
How about its already difficult and expensive enough to obtain a pistol permit in NY, and restricted enough by not practising ANY form of reciprocity like every other state in the country does. :rolleyes:

This is the last thing this state needs.

Would that law affect all current permits as well? Because being that they were issued for lifetime validation, wouldn't they need to be grandfathered, making the law only effective for new permits?

DO you know where I can find more info on this proposal, because I certainly would invest the time to write to my government officials.

Wedge
January 22, 2004, 03:56 PM
Everyones old permit will be converted and have to be renewed.

These permits are for possession not just carry, so revoking them is the same as confiscation.

A statewide database will lead to confiscation.

Write, call and visit your representatives.

Fudgie Ghost
January 22, 2004, 03:59 PM
Let me see if I understand this: The State of NY is angling to impose a $100 fee ON TOP of whatever my county charges at renewal time?

Granted, right now my county doesn't charge that much for a renewal, but if they can charge whatever they want, I know that in my county, where there is widespread fear and ignorance of guns, combined with the knowledge that gun-owners are not well represented by any real power base, I am sure they will boost the fee by quite a bit. Hey, it'll be "free money"! And they'll be taking it from those evil gun owners anyway.

Wasn't this country founded on a revolution concerning "taxation without representation"---?

FirePower
January 22, 2004, 04:42 PM
I've been looking all over but can't find any information on this. I've been checking packing.org and the new york state website, and tried google-ing it, and can't seem to verify this at all. Does anyone know anything else about this or have some links with more info? Thanks.

Peetmoss
January 22, 2004, 07:09 PM
look here (http://www.nysrpa.org/) It's under Pataki Pistol license Proposal. I really wouldn't mind it if they went to a shall issue system, and made my license valid in NYC. However we all know that wont happen. It will be used to get ride of all the grandfatherd full carry permits in places like Onondaga and similar Counties though witch really stinks.

COK
January 22, 2004, 07:18 PM
This Stinks , not only could it be more restrictive but just one more form of taxation , excuse me, fees .:mad:

Standing Wolf
January 22, 2004, 08:11 PM
Where does it say that in the Second Amendment?

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