Marlin 336 in .35 Remington or 30-30?


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CmdrSlander
August 12, 2011, 09:13 PM
So I'll be picking up a Marlin 336 soon, which caliber is better (read: cheaper and easier to find) .35 Rem or 30-30?

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Walkalong
August 12, 2011, 09:15 PM
Well, .30-30 ammo is everywhere that sells ammo. Not so sure about .35 Remington. Being as popular as it is, .30-30 is going to be as cheap as it gets. Simple supply and demand.

My 336 is a .35 Remington, but I have a Winny .30-30. :)

Abel
August 12, 2011, 09:43 PM
30-30

El Mariachi
August 12, 2011, 09:48 PM
There's a HUGE fan base of .35 Rem guys on the Marlin Owners forum. Sounds like it's a most funtastic rifle, and since I already have the 336C in .30-.30 (which I adore) the .35 is definitely gonna be my next lever action.....

Mike1234567
August 12, 2011, 09:51 PM
Lately, I've been buying rifles in the most common calibers. FWIW, the .30-30 beats the .243 in popularity. I was a bit surprised by this but I'm no expert. I don't hear or read much about the .35 Remington... not much at all.

El Mariachi
August 12, 2011, 09:58 PM
It ain't cheap at the moment, like over a buck a round....but we can only hope that we see it get more popular soon and that the price will drop.....



http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.35_Remington?sort=1&group=3

Abel
August 12, 2011, 10:01 PM
I love my 336 in 35 Rem. It lays deer down with authority at closer ranges. But the ammo costs nearly twice as much. Its a rifle that I sight in and then hunt with, not a rifle that I take to the range to pop off a few rounds.

El Mariachi
August 12, 2011, 10:08 PM
So there's no cheap way out right now, Able? Is this round even reloadable?...

Walkalong
August 12, 2011, 10:26 PM
.35 Remington is just as easy as any rifle caliber to reload. More versatile that way as well.

mbopp
August 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
I handload and have been thinking about a 35 Rem. I figure a few grains of Unique and a cast pistol bullet should be cheap practice.

Eb1
August 12, 2011, 10:41 PM
both are great. you have to reload any rifle now to get any savings. you can use the same powder in either i figure.
.35 rem is a great cartridge. if you reload it would be a good one to go to. of course you can't be having a 30-30 in your arsenal either.

i would say 30-30 because of the Sierra 125 grain FNHP. Makes the 30-30 into a new rifle if your rifle shoots them good at 2500+ fps. it is a deer stopper for sure.
then again the .35 rem shoots a 200 grain that will penetrate deep and with a core-lokt bullet it will open up good at the velocity it works at.
that was helpful wasn't it.. LOL

Tentwing
August 12, 2011, 10:54 PM
30-30 everyone should own one. :) in a lever action that is. ;)

...Tentwing

MRH
August 12, 2011, 10:56 PM
I've had both and each was a moa shooter with handloads.

I'd opt for the 35 Rem and the heavier bullets.

jmr40
August 12, 2011, 11:06 PM
If cheaper and easier to find is high on your list of priorities then it is a no brainer. 30-30 is the only way to go. The 35 is a good round but ammo is about 2X as expensive and can be downright hard to find at times.

I can't prove it, nor will I try, but it is my opinion that the 30-30 is the better deer/black bear killer anway.

Sam1911
August 12, 2011, 11:13 PM
.35 Remington is just as easy as any rifle caliber to reload. More versatile that way as well.

If you handload, they're about equal in cost, with the benefit to the .35 in the upper end of the bullet weight spectrum.

If you don't handload, .30-30 is by far the most common round.

Performance-wise, they really fill exactly the same niche.

GooseGestapo
August 13, 2011, 08:22 AM
I've got both. Love both.
(love my .338MX even more, though.....)

Start with the .30/30. Ammo is cheaper and more widely available. However, I'd suggest just sticking with either the 150 or 170gr Remington CorLokts.

I prefer the .35 to the .30/30 for hunting, but both will kill deer very well. Only the .35 does it with greater authority.

But for either, bullet selection is important. Many of the bullets on the reloading market aren't best suited for the lower velocities of these centanarians.

mdauben
August 13, 2011, 09:49 AM
The .30-30 definitely has cheaper and easier to find ammo. If you reload it makes much less difference. That said, while some people really love the .35 and it does offer some advantages over the .30-30, those advantages are IMO fairly minor. I certainly would not bother "upgrading" from a .30-30 to a .35 for example.

Eb1
August 13, 2011, 11:52 AM
. However, I'd suggest just sticking with either the 150 or 170gr Remington CorLokts.

Why? My rifle will not shoot a core-lokt into a 6" group @ 100 yards. Absolutely horrible accuracy.
If sticking with factory ammo I would recommend the Winchester 150 grain PowerPoints, but then again. That is my opinion. I would not say stick with these though. Shoot what shoots good from your rifle.

But here is my issue with the 150 and 170 grain bullets in the 30-30. Even though they have been around for many, many years. They are still too hard for my liking. I have a pic on another thread in the handloading section that shows a 150 grain PP over 33 grains of H4895 @ around 2300 fps. The round went into a between the deers shoulders, and ended up under the skin of the ham on the far side of the deer. It opened, but it took nearly 40" to do so it would appear. Which to me with the smaller deer we have in Southern AR is to slow expansion. This is why I started shooting the 125 grain FNHP. Instant expansion, and the base doesn't peel back so you get deep penetration like a 150, but you the massive temp cavity like a 257 Roberts or some other lighter bullet speed demon rifle. Now I am not saying they are on equal ground the .257 Bob and a 30-30 shooting a 125 grain HP, but a 125 grain FNHP @ 2500 to 2580 fps makes a huge difference in DRT statistics compared to a 150-170 grain FN solid bullet @ 2000 to 2300 fps.
I got tired of hitting deer broadside with perfect shots to have them run for 50 to 100 yards into the thickets mess you can find in the woods. Hence the reason I changed to another bullet for hunting, and it has made me happy. Broadside shot are now show stoppers. Quarter size hole going in. Baseball size coming out. Nothing left in between.

sansone
August 13, 2011, 12:30 PM
30-30..
why beat yourself up regarding ammo.

This relates: I proudly own an AR10 in .243, I do not have the luxury of cheap milsurp ammo (cheap ammo, LOL) ..
yes I reload but hard to keep-up with the semi auto pill shooter

TheGrimReaper
August 13, 2011, 02:31 PM
30-30 cheap and found anywhere that has ammo....99.9% of the time.

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