Price check and info on M1 and M1 carbines please


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critter
January 22, 2004, 06:43 PM
I have found a Springfield Armory M1 with S# in the 7 million range. It is almost as new with few rounds fired and has a NM front sight.

I also found an M1 carbine in almost new condition but made by IAI.

I would like somebody to hazard an estimate of a fair price for each and for somebody to enlighten me on the IAI stuff.

Thanks!

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WalkerTexasRanger
January 22, 2004, 07:34 PM
7 million on M1 Garand is post WWII production. Depends on condition, but you cant hardly beat $500 for CMP genuine WWII Garands instead.

As far as the IAI, thye are mil-spec reproductions made here in Houston. I had one, sold it, but like the rifle. They are a little more accurate than GIs, but just dont have the nostalga. Should be $350 or so used in good condition. There are many threads here on the IAIs, just do a search..

Good shooting!!!

VG
January 22, 2004, 09:05 PM
A Garand with a 7 million SN is a Springfield, Inc. commercial receiver, not a USGI rifle.

critter
January 22, 2004, 10:01 PM
Ok, so can you give me an estimated value for a nearly new commerical Springfield M1? Thanks again.

DamnedDirtyApe
January 22, 2004, 11:04 PM
Ok, so can you give me an estimated value for a nearly new commerical Springfield M1? Thanks again.

New SA M-1's are going for $950-$1000 around here.

Good used should go for 80-90% of that.

Listen to the man who told you about the CMP deals - they're a far better rifle with a big chunk of history attached.

critter
January 23, 2004, 08:18 AM
THANKS for all the help guys.

Paradiddle
January 23, 2004, 11:06 AM
Critter,

I HIGHLY recommend spending some time at www.jouster.com and www.battlerifles.com. Jouster (Culver's Shooting Page) has a very informed group of Garand adicts.

I would shy away from a commercial Garand - there have been many reports of just junky parts on them including the receiver being cast and not forged.

You can find a WWII or post war Garand at many local shops in the $800 range. Right now the hot ticket seems to be the 6M range Springfields as they represent the last of the "real" Garands and are in almost new condition.

Don't overlook a WWII Garand - I love both of mine.

Garands were built by four vendors for the Goverment.

1 - Springfield built the most and is the "creator" of the rifle.
2 - Winchester built only during WWII and while their colectability is high, their workmanship can leave something to be desired.
3 - H&R built Korea and post war Garands are are highly regarded
4 - IHC (International - yes the tractor people) also built Korea and post war Garands and are collectable due to their small production numbers.

"Danish" Garands are highly regarded as well. Our government loaned the Danes a bunch of Garands and the Danes did a fine job of reconditioning them with top quality parts and some of the best barrels (the Dane VAR barrel).

Personally - I'd start with a WWII Springfield. You are getting a piece of history and a rifle that if it's been through the armory program and fitted with a newer barrel will shoot great. Try and find with with a USGI barrel dated between 1950 and 1967 - they are great shooters. Get a low TE and Muz to ensure the barrel is not worn out.

Be on the lookout for Garands that look too perfect - there are many people faking them now, especially in the stock area (cartouche's and stuff like that). For example, a real Winchester stock with the cartouche is worth $500 - for just the stock!!! You can see why people are faking them. If you go with a CMP papered Garand it will be legit.

Get Scott Duff's books on the Garand so you are informed BEFORE you purchase. CMP is a fantastic route to go as well.

Also check out Fulton Armory's web site and Scott Duff's site as well.

Jeff

JNewell
January 23, 2004, 08:01 PM
Speaking as the former owner of a very early Springfield, Inc. M1 that had 100% USGI parts other than the receiver, I'd say stay away. The rifle simply did not perform as well in any respect as the rifles I've gotten from CMP. I doubt that the newer ones with cast parts are even as good as the one I had.

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