[wacki]

Full Story (http://expatch-swiss.blogspot.com/2011/07/only-in-switzerland.html)


http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/984/applestoreassaultriflel.jpg

[lonegunman]

Nice to see how life in a civilized country would be.

Here is would start the cowards screaming and wetting their shorts.

[Sav .250]

Different strokes for different folks.........:)

[trueg50]

Wow, that is awesome.

Makes you want to do that here to see how the Apple store employee's would react. Given the ones in my area, there would be a lot of folks needing to change their shorts when they see it.

[answerguy]

So why does that make me feel uncomfortable?

[sansone]

an armed society is a polite society

[Heretic]

Oh hell yea! Say, is that an FAL?
Get the sheeple used to seeing stuff like that and fewer of them will wet themselves.

[max popenker]

Say, is that an FAL?
That's SIG SG550, a.k.a. Fass.90 or Stgw.90 (http://world.guns.ru/assault/switch/sig-550--551--552-e.html)

[InkEd]

The first post below the pic (in the link) explained it.

[InkEd]

BTW I love the SIG 550 series of rifles.

[Persev]

Seems suspicious to me...why is the one guy wearing sunglasses? good thing there is an armed citizen nearby.

[Balrog]

He has no magazine in the gun, so its really just a poorly shaped club.
Ammo is kind of important.

[AirForceShooter]

Bet Steve Jobs got on hell of a headache seeing that.

AFS

[hnk45acp]

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-26/tech/apple.store.goat.malkoff_1_apple-store-macbooks-goat?_s=PM:TECH

here's an article on how tolerant Apple store employees have to be. So much so that they let a guy bring his goat into the store

[MrCleanOK]

This isn't so much "open carrying a full auto assault rifle" as it is a Swiss reservist transporting his duty weapon to or from duty. Completely normal in that country, and you can bet he doesn't have any ammo accessible for it.

[Mike1234567]

Ya gotta love the Swiss.

[K0ZZZ]

Here in Colorado Springs we have an FFL / Apple store. You're greeted when you walk in with "Hi, are you here for a Mac or a gun?"

[M-Cameron]

Here in Colorado Springs we have an FFL / Apple store. You're greeted when you walk in with "Hi, are you here for a Mac or a gun?"

must get confusing when someone goes in there looking for a Mak.....

[ZCORR Jay]

Here in Colorado Springs we have an FFL / Apple store. You're greeted when you walk in with "Hi, are you here for a Mac or a gun?"

That's the kind of world I want to live in.

[Old krow]

Here in Colorado Springs we have an FFL / Apple store. You're greeted when you walk in with "Hi, are you here for a Mac or a gun?"

That's awesome! I'd buy a 1911 with the Mac apple on it.

[mgregg85]

Could be even better if that was a class 3 FFL, you could buy a MAC-10 and a Macbook Air all in one trip.

[627PCFan]

The ATF just had a stroke. How many evil features can you ID on that Sig ;)

[col_tapiocca]

It's normal here in Switzerland. It's our way to transport a rifle from / to duty.
Men with gun on street or train station = normal.

[06]

Have heard that every soldier takes their arm home with them and everyone is a soldier at one time or other. Is that correct?

[daorhgih]

... which was a Dogg look-alike, with blond dread-locks, Indian jewelryed blessing-chains, and a FULL AUTO paintball gun. It would be SOooo easy for a look-out to spot this guy on his way to the park-lot, summon he homeys and take the gun, leaving Mr. Obvlivious with his body in two, at the shoulders. Don't EVEN think it couldn't happen. Oh, maybe not to HIM since he has on his UnderAll black hoodie for protection and invisibility. I'm calling "B.S. set-up" on the photo. DAO

[General Geoff]

daorhgih, do you know anything about Swiss culture?

[DoubleTapDrew]

Reminds me of this pic (I think it's from the same country)

http://discardedlies.com/media/Buying_Ice_Cream.jpg

[Tinpig]

Great picture!!
I'd guess it's in Israel, not Switzerland.

Tinpig

[FROGO207]

Agreed, those girls have live rounds in the mags. This is not a Swiss photo moment.:cool:

[MrCleanOK]

DTD, that would most likely be a photo from Israel. Note the vintage M-16's, live rounds, and Hebrew menus on the wall ;)

[Kliegl]

Yeah, the Israelis do not mess around. They walk around mobilized.

[daorhgih]

Yeah. And neither the Swiss nor the Israelis have ever lost a war. Their immigration laws are pretty tough, too. My post stands, as if it WERE in the good ol' USA.

[oldbear]

Seems suspicious to me...why is the one guy wearing sunglasses? good thing there is an armed citizen nearby.

Why is it a good thing there is an armed citizen near by??:confused:

[wlewisiii]

Yeah. And neither the Swiss nor the Israelis have ever lost a war. Their immigration laws are pretty tough, too. My post stands, as if it WERE in the good ol' USA.
Sorry to disappoint you, but a quick look at swiss history shows otherwise. Just look to the surrender to Napoleon if nothing else.

"In 1798, the revolutionary French government conquered Switzerland and imposed a new unified constitution" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Napoleonic_era

But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

[Sam Cade]

Sorry to disappoint you, but a quick look at swiss history shows otherwise. Just look to the surrender to Napoleon if nothing else.

"In 1798, the revolutionary French government conquered Switzerland and imposed a new unified constitution" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Napoleonic_era

But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Since they haven't been involved in an external war since the foundation of the Federal State (in 1848) you could say the Swiss have NEVER won a war.

[eazyrider]

That ice cream cone thing looks like he is really happy to see that girl.

[Persev]

Oldbear-
I was mostly joking about the one person in the store who feels the need for sunglasses while looking at a computer.But it seems to me that having an armed citizen nearby is a good thing in any case.

[Deltaboy]

I love to visit the Swiss because they progun in an anti gun Europe. Too bad we can't do the same thing anymore with out causing a panic and upsetting the Police.

[Ignition Override]

The girls with ARs are in an Israeli ice cream shop.

To see a nice selection in Israel and around the world, just search YouTube for "lady soldiers" etc.
You might be surprised by the results.

[FourTeeFive]

Israel; the land of milk and honeys...

http://chinashow.me/2011/07/02/jewish-girls-with-guns-chinese-netizen-reactions/

[vaupet]

switserland is nice,
girls, probably not old enough to drive a car, ride a bike with full-auto stg90 (sig550)
I don't think their parents should be worried about their safety now.

http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/tag/swiss/

[newbuckeye]

I was in a bar in Jerusalem in 1992 and 12 IDF soldiers walked in armed to the teeth! Any kind of EBR you could dream up. One guy got a drink and sat on a chair in the corner with the weapons, the rest got drinks and went to the dance floor. The 5 of us didn't quite know what to think, but we figured if they were there for a drink, it was a good sign nothing was going on.

[firemanstrickland]

:rolleyes:WOW, thats a really cool pic. Why cant we have that here?....:rolleyes:

[DoomGoober]

:rolleyes:WOW, thats a really cool pic. Why cant we have that here?....:rolleyes:
We (mostly) CAN have Open Carry of long arms here, if you live in an open carry state. Though, semi-auto only, of course.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

and also the cops would most likely be called and thats one hassle you don't really want. At least you can have ammo and load your rifle.

[CoRoMo]

So why does that make me feel uncomfortable?
You tell me.

[Sam Cade]

and also the cops would most likely be called and thats one hassle you don't really want.


meh.... I open carry pretty much every day, though I don't walk regularly walk around town with a rifle.


I have walked around Louisville with an AR to prove a point though....the point being that you could.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I'm talking about with a Rifle, I've open carried a few times myself and I don't mind it or fear the cops being called. Its just with a rifle it can be different. This video kinda shows what I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUd_00Xrf_U

I would only open carry a rifle during a demostration.

[gym]

You want fries with that.If it's an apple store they won't have regular bulletts, you will have to buy a mac or ipod round for their version.I hear they aren't as fast but more reliable and don't jam.

[Sam Cade]

Its just with a rifle it can be different. This video kinda shows what I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUd_00Xrf_U
I would only open carry a rifle during a demonstration.

It is in no way different, at least in Kentucky.



The conversation would go something like this:
Open Carrier with AK: "Am I being detained?"
LEO: "uhhhh... well No...."
Open Carrier with AK: "Then I am free to go? Have a nice day officer"

[Flfiremedic]

Col,
Not to hijack the thread, but would the off duty soldiers have had any duty or expectation to respond to an incident similiar to the recent tragedy in Norway?

[firemanstrickland]

well doom goober....unfortunately i live in SC for some completely unknown reason we are cc only, it really is inconvenient

[Sam Cade]

Col,
Not to hijack the thread, but would the off duty soldiers have had any duty or expectation to respond to an incident similar to the recent tragedy in Norway?

How would they respond?

They arent allowed ammunition.

[Nefarious79]

In addition, the government subsidizes ammo costs so people can go to shooting ranges and maintain their skills.

Wow!!!! What a concept

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

How would they respond?

They arent allowed ammunition.

They are given ammo to keep at home, they have access to it but they aren't allowed to use it. They also can buy ammo elsewhere.

[Sam Cade]

They are given ammo to keep at home, they have access to it but they aren't allowed to use it. They also can buy ammo elsewhere.

Sure.... but it has to stay at home.


Your average Swiss citizen isn't allowed to be armed in public.


Guns may be transported in public as long as an appropriate justification is present. This means to transport a gun in public, the following requirements apply:

The ammunition must be separated from the gun, no ammunition in a magazine.

The transport has to be direct, i.e.:
For courses or exercises hosted by marksmanship, hunting or military organizations,
To an army warehouse and back,
To and from a holder of a valid arms trade permit,
To and from a specific event, e.g. gun shows.



My wife is Swiss btw....she likes guns very much.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=141572&d=1304395953

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

You missed the part about it staying at home, I'm thinking the one that asked the question was refering to if an active shooter was heard by someone at home.

[Sam Cade]

You missed the part about it staying at home, I'm thinking the one that asked the question was referring to if an active shooter was heard by someone at home.

Sure.



http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/311_0/a15.html


Any person who carries out an act that carries a criminal penalty in order to save a legal interest of his own or of another from immediate and not otherwise avertable danger, acts lawfully if by doing so he safeguards interests of higher value.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Then that answers that question.

[FourTeeFive]

http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/311_0/a15.html

This is very interesting:

Legitimate self-defence

If any person is unlawfully attacked or threatened with imminent attack, the person attacked and any other person are entitled to ward off the attack by means that are reasonable in the circumstances.

[zeb777]

Great read. Hell it would be nice if i could just carry my duty weapon on post, but we cant do that.

[MarkDido]

Here in Colorado Springs we have an FFL / Apple store. You're greeted when you walk in with "Hi, are you here for a Mac or a gun?"

I hear the next generation iPad is going to have a phone function, (no speaker, but you can use a bluetooth headset) and hold 8 rounds of .45 ;)

[Deltaboy]

Reminds me of this pic (I think it's from the same country)

http://discardedlies.com/media/Buying_Ice_Cream.jpg
Some days when I see things like this I wish to be 25 years old again.