Just checking .300 Savage Can't be cut down from .308 right?


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antiacus
August 19, 2011, 11:46 AM
All dimensions at the same except the length of the neck and the angle of the shoulder.

Since the shoulder angle on 300 savage is 30 degrees and 308 is 20 degrees it's not possible to cut down .308 to .300 savage specs correct?

Thanks

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antiacus
August 19, 2011, 12:01 PM
I just thought of something. If i trim down my .308 brass to the correct length, then run through full length .300 savage sizer die, will the die correct the shoulder angle?

Wil Terry
August 19, 2011, 12:08 PM
NEW 300SAV brass is readily available so WHY bother ???
OH......NO, the FL siziing die will NOT correct the shoulder angle, only fire forming will do so.......BUT again, why bother ??

antiacus
August 19, 2011, 12:20 PM
I have a ton of .308 but no .308 rifle.

The brass is pretty cheap at midway. The only real reason to do it though is because it's interesting and i like tinkering.

MMCSRET
August 19, 2011, 02:42 PM
For something like that, 10 would be tinkering but 20 would be tedious and 30 would be painful. That's predicated on the fore knowledge that the correct new cases were readily available.

Craigman
August 19, 2011, 03:07 PM
I've converted a bunch of .308 win to 300 savage. resize, then hooked a drill to my RCBS trimmer and made short work of it. shoot and trim again.

Obsidian
August 19, 2011, 04:52 PM
I have heard of success with it from 308 and a bit of 30-06 but it is very tedious and difficult to do correctly. My personal advice would be to sell the 308 brass to fund a 300 savage purchase. I love the 300 savage, I have a old Model A Savage 99 and a Remington 700 classic Cira 2003 class in 300 savage. Both shoot great. Tinkering is fine and while for some cartridges it may be useful to convert brass, but again it is commonly available at least during the runs of it from the cartridge makers. Sell the brass you have and get some actual 300 savage brass is my suggestion. Saves you a lot of time that you can use to reload lots of rounds and fire away with them! It is a joy to reload as well, provided you just take your time.

rcmodel
August 19, 2011, 04:55 PM
If i trim down my .308 brass to the correct length, then run through full length .300 savage sizer die, will the die correct the shoulder angle?DO NOT trim before sizing .308 to .300 Sav.

There is no way to know what length to trim, until after the new case shape is formed and the excess brass squirts out the end of the forming die.

Then you trim it to the correct length.

rc

antiacus
August 19, 2011, 05:00 PM
Thanks guys, i think i'm just going to shoot off some commercial and use the spent casings. I'm not spending .50 cents per casing on new brass when i can buy loaded ammo for .75 then have spent casings that are mated to my rifle anyway.

ranger335v
August 19, 2011, 05:09 PM
Such mild case reforming is neither difficult nor tedious. It does require that you know what you're doing but that applies to everything about reloading.

mdub
August 19, 2011, 05:22 PM
Thanks guys, i think i'm just going to shoot off some commercial and use the spent casings. I'm not spending .50 cents per casing on new brass when i can buy loaded ammo for .75 then have spent casings that are mated to my rifle anyway.

Where can you find a box of 300 savage for $15? This I need to know.

antiacus
August 19, 2011, 06:18 PM
I stand corrected!

Cheapest i can find is $1.20 per round at cheaperthandirt.

Maybe .50c a casing isn't so bad for new brass after all :)

I've been searching for 7.62x54r and i think i had that price in my head for prvi 150sp's.

res45
August 19, 2011, 09:15 PM
The 300 Sav. case is the parent case the 308 was developed from,it's an easy conversion simply just run the once fired 308 case into the 300 Sav. FL resizing die then trim to the correct length. Load and fire form,check trim length once more and then load as normal. I made all the 300 Sav. brass I'll ever need for all the free range brass lying around.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1/rhsikes/res45/Picture014.jpg

antiacus
August 20, 2011, 02:05 AM
Thanks res45, did you you the same bullet seating die as .308 or does .300 savage use a different die despite being the same bullet?

res45
August 20, 2011, 08:01 PM
I don't have any 308 dies only have a set of Lyman 300 Sav. dies I got with the rifle a long time ago.

Amistoso
November 12, 2012, 04:42 PM
I have a ton of .308 but no .308 rifle.

The brass is pretty cheap at midway. The only real reason to do it though is because it's interesting and i like tinkering.
lol, good answer... and the only answer anybody needs to hear :)

Amistoso
November 12, 2012, 04:43 PM
I have heard of success with it from 308 and a bit of 30-06 but it is very tedious and difficult to do correctly. My personal advice would be to sell the 308 brass to fund a 300 savage purchase. I love the 300 savage, I have a old Model A Savage 99 and a Remington 700 classic Cira 2003 class in 300 savage. Both shoot great. Tinkering is fine and while for some cartridges it may be useful to convert brass, but again it is commonly available at least during the runs of it from the cartridge makers. Sell the brass you have and get some actual 300 savage brass is my suggestion. Saves you a lot of time that you can use to reload lots of rounds and fire away with them! It is a joy to reload as well, provided you just take your time.
well put!

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