Hard Chrome for Colt


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USMC8541
August 20, 2011, 06:24 PM
Do you think sending a 70s Colt DS out for hard Chrome would ruin the value of the gun? I am not a gun collecter but a gun user. The blue already has some wear.

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Ro1911
August 20, 2011, 07:13 PM
you don't want to chrome a gun, if you shoot it it will turn a bright blue color.

chrome doesn't have a very high heat tollerance, thats why they nickel plate guns instead of chroming them.

Lucky Derby
August 20, 2011, 07:18 PM
Yes, refinishing it will harm the value, except in rare cases where the finish is almost completely gone.
That said, you will never recoup the cost of the refinish, regardless.
My rule of thumb is I refinish guns only when the continued use of the firearm in the manner I wish to use it will, or is likely to, result in actual damage to the workings of the arm. I have a Sig P220 that is close to that now. Almost no finish left on the slide from years of carry in all weather conditions.
That said, a little holster wear on a DS I see as a badge of honor from actual use. I would not refinish such an arm.
That said, it is your gun to use and enjoy how you see fit. If you see it as an investment, do not refinish. If you see it as a tool or toy, do what will bring you the most use and pleasure.

Lucky Derby
August 20, 2011, 07:20 PM
you don't want to chrome a gun, if you shoot it it will turn a bright blue color.

chrome doesn't have a very high heat tollerance, thats why they nickel plate guns instead of chroming them.
Not so much with Hard Chrome. Gives it more of a matte stainless look, and does not react to heat, at least not on the guns I have seen, and I owned a S&W M38 that had this finish.

Ro1911
August 20, 2011, 08:08 PM
I still wouldn't use chrome hard or not, I've seen to many "chrome pimp guns" that turned out to be a bright blue.

The pimps usually think that the blue is cooler any way.

If you took it to a place that does electroplating you could get it done in nickel and it would probably add to the resale value.

savit260
August 20, 2011, 08:47 PM
still wouldn't use chrome hard or not, I've seen to many "chrome pimp guns" that turned out to be a bright blue.

Hard Chrome is a VERY good, and rust and wear resistant gun finish. This is definitely NOT the bright bumper chrome type finish you are thinking of.

EDIT TO ADD: Check out this website for hard chrome examples and info

http://www.mahovskysmetalife.com/Metalife%20Finish%20Page%202.htm

Zak Smith
August 20, 2011, 08:50 PM
I've shot the heck out of a bunch of my pistols that were eventually refinished in HC (Tripp in my case), and none of them have turned blue.

dfariswheel
August 20, 2011, 08:56 PM
I once had a Hensley & Gibbs 4 cavity gang mold for casting 230 grain .45ACP bullets hard chromed.
It cast a LOT of bullets, and while the finish is slightly discolored with grayish areas, it's not a blue color.

Having your Colt hard chromed plated will "probably" lower the value. However, if the finish is worn, it has no real collector value so hard chroming it may actually raise the value to a potential buyer who likes hard chrome.

One advantage, you can carry and shoot the gun for years with no further deterioration of the gun.

vanfunk
August 20, 2011, 09:54 PM
^ This.

If you are planning on keeping it and carrying it, hard chrome is an excellent option. I have seen several hundred hard use, hard chromed guns and have never seen this "bluing" effect reported above, so I would not be deterred by this poster's experience - something must have been wrong with the plating process in that case, methinks.

HTH,

vanfunk

Gordon
August 21, 2011, 12:13 AM
Man listen to dfariswheel !
I still have Hard Chromed revolvers from the late 70s that look pretty darn good after being to hell and back for 30 years. A good plater puts them back together sweet also. I couldn't think of anything sweeter than a 70s Dick Special hard Chromed by Metal life or Tripps.

CraigC
August 21, 2011, 01:17 AM
you don't want to chrome a gun, if you shoot it it will turn a bright blue color.

chrome doesn't have a very high heat tollerance, thats why they nickel plate guns instead of chroming them.
Pure nonsense. Learn the difference between the industrial hard chrome used as a firearms finish and cheap decorative bumper chrome.

Personally, I really like hard chrome. It offers a very high surface hardness, is very resistant to wear, is virtually impervious to corrosion, offers increased lubricity and is very easy to clean up. Had this one done, among other things, about 12yrs ago.

Satin nickel on the left, matte hard chrome on the right.
http://photos.imageevent.com/newfrontier45/sixgunsiii/large/IMG_8088b.jpg

RickMD
August 21, 2011, 08:17 AM
you don't want to chrome a gun, if you shoot it it will turn a bright blue color.

Somebody's been watching too many episodes of "Sons of Guns". A revolver isn't a WWI vintage machine gun and it would be nearly impossible to get it to a temperature that would even remotely affect the chrome by simply firing it.

USMC8541
August 21, 2011, 11:57 PM
I like the hard Chrome protection, My Colt is a tool, If I have to go for leather I want the person to see my weapon

Jim K
August 22, 2011, 12:29 AM
Do you want a gun to collect or to use. Any refinish will about destroy collector value.

IMHO, I don't like shiny guns for carry. I always felt that at night I might as well carry a neon sign with an arrow pointing at me as carry a nickel or chrome gun. But to each his own.

Jim

ColtPythonElite
August 22, 2011, 02:38 AM
An already finish worn DS is not a rare item, nor is it likely to soar in collector value. Refinish if you like. It's a 400-500 buck gun as it is. You can throw 200-300 at it to refinish it. It will still be a 400-500 buck gun. The worst is you are out a couple hundred $$, but you will have what you want...I say go for it.

Personally, I love shiny guns. I don't see what it matters for a CC piece. By the time the rubber hits the road and I have to pull it out, I could care less if my intended target sees it flash in the night. Once it's gone that far, the next flash he sees could be from the muzzle.

Spartan Gladiator
August 22, 2011, 02:51 AM
Have you ever checked out this finish option? http://www.robarguns.com/precision_coatings.htm
Just thinking this might make it better than chrome

CraigC
August 22, 2011, 12:47 PM
NP3 is excellent and well-proven. It's nickel and teflon based so it is very corrosion resistant and slick. Although it won't be as hard and won't wear as long as hard chrome. Everything is a compromise of sorts.


IMHO, I don't like shiny guns for carry. I always felt that at night I might as well carry a neon sign with an arrow pointing at me as carry a nickel or chrome gun. But to each his own.
Ever wear a white shirt?

Guillermo
August 22, 2011, 01:13 PM
I would not do it.

But it is not like there are not a bunch of 3rd generation Detective Specials.

Depending on the wear of the blue, it might lower the value...which only matters if you decide to sell it.

If it is a keeper...chrome away.

Gordon
August 22, 2011, 09:23 PM
Go with the brushed hard chrome. Better looking than the matte but certainly not shiny. Looks like nice Stainless steel. A good HC job smooths it up and lasts indefintely with little maintainence.

bannockburn
August 23, 2011, 10:01 AM
I would definitely recommend hard chrome plating, especially for a CCW. I have had a number of guns refinished by Ron Mahovsky, and after years of use, both at the range and out in the field, they all still look as new as the day I got them back from him. A high quality finish that will last a very long time, and will look great doing it.

saemetric
August 23, 2011, 12:34 PM
My hard chromed Python done around 1980

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn147/saemetric/Python1.jpg

mec
August 23, 2011, 03:03 PM
Top: Tripp/ Bottom-whoever Les Baer is using. Tripp is getting out of the HC business and moving back to Central Texas to consentrate on his new adjustable sights and his magazines.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=147845&stc=1&d=1314122483

USMC8541
August 23, 2011, 08:28 PM
All good comments,I am near 50 and have no plans to sell this gun, I am thinking of sending her out to cylinder & slide to bob the hammer then to the hard chrome, I'll skin that dick with a Speed scabbard from Ken Null.
Like the man said if you see shiny steel I'm thinking bout puttin some lead in ya.

Guillermo
August 23, 2011, 09:00 PM
if you bob the hammer render the weapon DAO.

To not have a secure way to decock is dangerous.

mec
August 23, 2011, 09:01 PM
I don't think you can go wrong with c&s

CraigC
August 24, 2011, 11:33 AM
If it's DAO, why would you need to decock?

ColtPythonElite
August 24, 2011, 07:47 PM
The gun is not DAO. He was talking about making it DAO if and when the hammer is bobbed.

Guillermo
August 25, 2011, 01:40 AM
I guess I missed where the OP mentioned that the gun was DAO.

Just warning that a bobbed gun should be DAO. To not do so does not allow the gun to be safely decocked.

ColtPythonElite
August 25, 2011, 03:49 AM
I guess I missed where the OP mentioned that the gun was DAO.

No, you didn't....I missed putting the not in my last reply and have now edited it.

CraigC
August 25, 2011, 10:50 AM
if you bob the hammer, render the weapon DAO.
I must've misunderstood this sentence. Should've been a comma in there. ;)

Guillermo
August 25, 2011, 11:30 AM
BTW

confession

I have owned and would own again a non DAO bobbed revolver. I just didn't shoot it single action.

This is one of those "do as I say" things.

All those guys that had Fitz chop up their duns did not DAO them. It is called "disipline"

Prosser
January 11, 2012, 05:12 AM
I went brushed chrome on my kimber Custom II after the black finish went south:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Socrates28/KIMBER/Kimber1911chromedleft.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Socrates28/KIMBER/Kimber1911Chromed.jpg

This was done by Jack Huntington Advanced Gunsmithing.
What it looked like before it rusted:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Socrates28/KIMBER/KIMBERRIGHT-1.jpg

motorcycle-charlie
January 11, 2012, 11:54 AM
I'll skin that dick with a Speed scabbard :uhoh:
aaaa.....what?

Krusty
January 11, 2012, 01:09 PM
saemetric,
That Python is nice!!! :what:

CCW1911
January 12, 2012, 05:09 AM
Hard chrome is a great finish for handguns. It is harder than the metal underneath, is more rust resistant than blue, holster wear will just polish it won't remove the finish. The hard chromed parts will not wear nearly as quickly as unplated. Having said all that I'm not a big fan of hard chrome on revolvers. The reason is the cylinder flutes are much harder to clean and look bad after just a few rounds. For that reason I like nickel better for revolvers, it's much slicker and easy to clean up.

Edit to add I'm talking about the satin look hard chrome, I imagine the high polish hard chrome some shops do would act about like nickel. Also I've never seen hard chrome turn blue in the about 40 years I've been building guns and having them hard chromed mostly by Metaloy.

CraigC
January 12, 2012, 08:34 AM
The reason is the cylinder flutes are much harder to clean and look bad after just a few rounds.
That's odd because I've found it far easier to clean than any other finish. Stuff usually just wipes off.

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