[Yoda]

I've written here many times before that it is a good safety practice to require that guns be unloaded in gun shops and at gun shows, where people are likely to be doing dry fires and waving guns all over the place. The risk of accident is just too high. The news item linked below is just one tragic example of what can go wrong. The husband has lost his wife and gained a lifetime of nightmares.

I've been in a pawn shop where an owner kept a revolver chambered for .17 HMR in the original box along with a box of ammo. When I pointed out to him that this was VERY unsafe, he just patted his own pistol and said, "Let someone try something!" This wasn't about being a hero. This was about the potential that someone might unintentionally (or intentionally!) leave a round in the gun, and that someone else might pick it up and accidentally discharge it.

I've been in another shop where a customer held a gun at waist level and waved it around, constantly pulling the trigger and telling everyone how smooth it was. Geez!

OK, so we don't know the specifics about what happened in the case linked below, but we DO know that if a gunshop owner specifies that you unload your gun in his shop, you should comply or go somewhere else.

Here's the link:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GUN_SHOP_FATAL_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-22-11-40-28

BE SAFE!

[Alex23]

You sure that 'accident' is the word to use here?

[Johnny Dollar]

I have to disagree Yoda, my old buddy from Packing.Org! ;) These cases of negligence are rare and more to the point its just another 2A infringement. We have enough already.

We need subtraction,not addition.

[N003k]

I agree that no guns being presented for SALE at a shop or show should be kept loaded...but, at the same time, no gun being carried for defense should be getting drawn, there's no reason for it (er, well, unless its a self defense scenario obviously. I mean just under any other circumstance at a show/shop). The type of person that would draw or handle any loaded gun like that...well, I doubt a rule telling people ALL guns should be unloaded before entering the location will really stop those people from being careless.

[Yo Mama]

I've written here many times before that it is a good safety practice to require that guns be unloaded in gun shops and at gun shows, where people are likely to be doing dry fires and waving guns all over the place. The risk of accident is just too high. The news item linked below is just one tragic example of what can go wrong. The husband has lost his wife and gained a lifetime of nightmares.



And many times you were told what? :)

OK, so we don't know the specifics about what happened in the case linked below,

Article has no specifics, so I guess you just HAD to generalize that all gun owners are dangerous and not to be trusted? It's a negligent discharge, one that should have not happened, but restricting loaded weapons is not the answer. What if the actor was a criminal and everyone in the store was shot?

I've been in another shop where a customer held a gun at waist level and waved it around, constantly pulling the trigger and telling everyone how smooth it was. Geez!



If this happens, I point mine back, makes a bit of a statement. I also add a bit of base in my voice to make a lasting impression.


but we DO know that if a gunshop owner specifies that you unload your gun in his shop, you should comply or go somewhere else.



This is the only part you got right. We go elsewhere, and inform others to do the same.

OP, this is a low blow to use this story as ammo for your point, IMO not highroad to post. It's not the guns fault, stop blaming the gun!

[Yeager]

It's not the guns fault, stop blaming the gun!

If the gun hadn't been there a grandmother would still be alive.

you just HAD to generalize that all gun owners are dangerous and not to be trusted?

If the shoe fits, wear it.

What if the actor was a criminal and everyone in the store was shot?

Again, the solution isn't to arm more people so we can have wild west shoot outs on American streets. It's to disarm everyone except the police.

Make gun ownership an offense punishable by death, and you'll see a lot less crime and more don't tread on me terrorists behind barbed wire.

I point mine back, makes a bit of a statement.

Yeah, ok Rambo.

I can already see that you're exactly the type I don't want having a gun.

point its just another 2A infringement.

An infringement upon the state's right to raise a well regulated militia? Hardly.

The news item linked below is just one tragic example of what can go wrong.

Given that a firearm is involved, this should be no surprise. guns just bring misery, pain, drama, and death to everyone involved with them.



Gun bunnies are funny.

[gennro]

Title should say "THIS is why owners don't want idiots with guns in their shops!"

[Mike1234567]

Yeager... You have the right to believe whatever you want but, if you're so anti 2A, then why are you a member of this forum?

[98C5]

Yeager... You have the right to believe whatever you want but, if you're so anti 2A, then why are you a member of this forum?

I'm curious too.....

[chhodge69]

Given that a firearm is involved, this should be no surprise. guns just bring misery, pain, drama, and death to everyone involved with them

:neener: I just love good satire!

[mgmorden]

Obvious troll is obvious. Stop feeding him people.

[357 Terms]

Seems odd. I will need specifics before i pass any kind of judgement. It's definitly negligent or criminal.

[zfk55]

Yeager isn't anti 2A, he's purley anti-firearm. Period. Why is he here again?
As my Fathere is wont to say.......... Stay low... sucker.

[Mike1234567]

Obvious troll is obvious. Stop feeding him people.

How the heck can anyone be a troll on the same forum for five years?:confused::scrutiny:

[El Mariachi]

Yeager is the Rosie O'Donell of THR........

[benEzra]

From strictly a safety standpoint, a policy of "all loaded guns MUST remain holstered" is much safer and less likely to result in ND than a policy of "all loaded guns must be drawn and fiddled with on these premises," which is what an unload-your-CCW-here policy works out to.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Make gun ownership an offense punishable by death, and you'll see a lot less crime and more don't tread on me terrorists behind barbed wire.

So England having a higher crime rate is a fairy tale?:confused: Only a few people in the outer parts actually have guns but aren't allowed to use them against a criminal. What about China?

[AKElroy]

Still open?? I'll be dog...

Well, Mr. Yeager, I have used a gun to stop my car being jacked with my wife & baby in the backseat. Thankfully, no shots were required as the thug saw reason at the presentation of my .45 and beat a hasty retreat. He even politely apologized as he backed away with his hands in the air. Where in this incident was the gun a force for evil?

Car -- Still in my possession
Wife & Baby -- A-OK
Bad Guy -- Actually uttered a respectful statement for possibly the first time in his entire miserable existance, and is still breathing un-harmed.

Where is this a bad thing exactly??

[Mike1234567]

*deleted* I replied to a Mod's post which was rewritten while I was typing so what I had to say is no longer important.

[AKElroy]

Make gun ownership an offense punishable by death, and you'll see a lot less crime and more don't tread on me terrorists behind barbed wire.

How sweet. I wonder how often you lament the loss of proper civil discourse. By the way, it would take quite a bit more than barbed wire to lock up all the "don't tread on me" types. Ask George--

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

My LGS that I frequent has a sign on the door that says no loaded guns, I asked him about it and he said it only applies to guns that you are selling or trying to find a holster for it.

[Johnny Dollar]

Don't let Yeager hijack the thread.He gets his chuckles that way. :what: Back to the OP as per Fivet.

[eazyrider]

Yeager is just BS'ing. I thought it was funny.

[firemanstrickland]

Yager, If you are looking for a place to get your laughs there are plenty of other forums to get off on. Grow up and quit wasting our time.

[Mike1234567]

RE: Yeager's reference to "gun bunnies".

One definition of "gun bunny": A girl who is strongly attracted to, or excited by, guns. A girl who likes shooting many kinds of guns. Similar to a ski bunny in the shooting world.

I like gun bunnies!!

[AKElroy]

Police say a male relative was handling a loaded 9 mm pistol when it discharged

If I owned a LGS, I would have a sign on every counter that states the four rules, with a request that every customer read them while the requested gun is being fetched. After rule four, I would have a bold statement that simply states "failure to observe these rules of safe handling will result in you being asked to leave our store". And then I would do exactly that.

This tragedy resulted from poor gun handling and an irresponsible LGS owner. ALL guns are to be treated as loaded. ALL muzzles are to be pointed in a safe direction. Even those behind the counter of a LGS. No exceptions. Ever.

[Johnny Dollar]

Yeager is just BS'ing.

Of course. But he knows the derailment's coming. Hence the chuckles.

[TexasRifleman]

Seems that Yeager made a (very poor) attempt at humor and/or sarcasm or something...

Let's move past his comments for now and stick to the subject.

[firemanstrickland]

^^^ i agree tex, I personally don't think a gun shop or gun show should stop a concealed carry. other than that all OTHER guns should definitely be unloaded

[Yo Mama]

Seems that Yeager made a (very poor) attempt at humor and/or sarcasm or something...

Let's move past his comments for now and stick to the subject.


Deep breaths, you're right, deep breaths!

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

At the same LGS as mentioned before I actually picked up a SKS that was for sale that was still loaded! The owner used to own it and put it up for sale and forgot to unload it.

[Nushif]

Again, the solution isn't to arm more people so we can have wild west shoot outs on American streets. It's to disarm everyone except the police.

Lul.

[TexasRifleman]

I don't want to be the Ogre Mod but I'm deleting any more serious replies to Yeagers post. It's too funny not to respond to though, so have at it from that angle. Just remember, it's trolling, don't enter a serious debate with that stuff.

[El Mariachi]

I think that 'forgetting' to unload a weapon (in that context) is beyond inexcusable....

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I do agree with that, hes a good guy but...

[TexasRifleman]

Well it doesn't seem we can get back on track after the weirdness on page 1.

Maybe another day, another thread, but this one is done.