[orangeninja]

Hi,

This is for those who have shot or owned BOTH. My dad has a Springfield XD....its been so long since I've shot it...all I know is that I loved it. I also carry a 229 at work...it also is solid. I'm torn...I can either buy a used Sig 229 in good to excellent shape...or a NEW XD....What do you guys think? Which is the more accurate? Thanks.

[45R]

Owned a XD traded for a Sig. If your going to carry buy the XD. For range and nightstand get the 229.

Both are extremely accurate. If I could only have one I would take the Sig 229.

Its a SIG :)

[Brad Johnson]

Nothing wrong with either. However, the XD fits my mitts a lot better and there's certainly nothing bad about the lower price.

Brad

[Jay Kominek]

I own both an XD-9 and a P229 in 9mm. I havn't had an opportunity to put more than a handful of rounds through the 229, but: 229 has a nicer trigger pull IMO, but I hate the standard sights. I'll replace them with tritium sights sometime in the next few months, though, so that will go away.

I havn't started carrying yet (permit just showed up in the mail yesterday, and I'm still agonizing over what holster to get), but I'm planning on carrying the XD-9 rather than the 229. I've already got night sights on the XD, but that isn't why. Its just something more ephemeral.

They're both still more accurate than I am, but the 229 kicks a little less than the XD. (But you can put in an aftermarket recoil rod/spring, which might take care of that.)

If the feature list and cost of the two doesn't sway you one way or the other, then I'd just go for whichever one feels better in your hands. If they both fit you equally well, then get both! (Its what I did. :evil: )

[care-less]

If the choice is between a new gun or a used gun for the same price; always buy the new gun! You then at least know what you have got. In this case, the new gun will be the XD, and what you will have is a very fine pistol. Something to think about: nothing is perfect; but those people over there in Croatia don't have a whole lot going for them, and they need this pistol to be sucessful on the International Market. If that factory closes, they don't eat! As a result, I think they are putting some tender loving care into their creation. Both that I have are very very nicely made, no failures, nice all the way around. The Sig? Is it made in Germany, or one of the ones made in their US factory? You know how sloppy American workers are! (just kidding, well at least to an extent). Seriously though, I would rather have one from the German factory. They don't call it Old World Craftsmanship for nothing; and that applies to the XD. I have both, the Sig is a 229 from Germany, the XD's are just as nice.

[George Hill]

In this case, I'd probably roll with the XD. G-Code holster. I like the trigger on the XD better than on the SIG... everything else if pretty much aces.

[Badger Arms]

For several reasons, I'd choose the XD. First, the accessory rail allows you to mount a flashlight. The flashlight is an absolutely essential tool. Sure, we got by without them for years, but since the technology is there, buy it. The Sig is a great $400 or even $500 gun, but the XD is much more value for the money and certainly not inferior in any way... my opinion. I'll leave it at that.

[orangeninja]

have any of you ever had failures with your XDs?

how about the sigs?

also last question...which has less felt recoil?

[Greg Bell]

Good God, buy the SIG. The SIG is going to be excellent. The resale will be better. It will have better workmanship probably be more accurate, etc. The XD is nice, but just a slightly improved Glock with no factory high-caps available.

Do the right thing man, buy the SIG:what:

[lycanthrope]

The XD has TOTALLY different internals than a Glock. They also have nice trigger pulls and accuracy is better than most Sigs I've shot (blasphemy, I know)

No..I don't own either. My nightstand has an STI Edge.....

[fix]

The XD is nice, but just a slightly improved Glock with no factory high-caps available.

Slightly improved glock? The only thing they really have in common is the materials used to make them. The magazine comment is both unfair and untrue. The pistol is fairly new so obviously there are no pre-ban mags. There are factory mags for LE/Mil only. You can also use the XD-40 mags in the XD-9 legally, giving you a capacity of 15. If you're going to make a case against the pistol, do it with facts.

I think that you have a situation where you're going to have to lay hands on the two and do some shooting with them to truly make a decision. I prefer the XD, but the Sig is an awesome pistol and as others have mentioned, a sound financial investment.

[Greg Bell]

I keed, I keed.

I was just goofin' around. I've never had the pleasure of shooting an XD. And, with luck, the mag ban will soon be history.

Kidding...

[fix]

Sorry...:D

[Kilroy]

All said and done, the XD is a single action auto that does not have any active safeties, like the thumb safety on the side of a Hi-Power or 1911A1.

Very small girth and grip on the XD. Sig is for good size hands. Sig has passive safeties and a trigger cocking mechanism.

[orangeninja]

wouldn't a grip safety be an active safety? what about the jointed trigger like the glock? wouldn't that be an active safety? is the XD actually "cocked" or partially cocked?

[voodooman]

i'd choose the sig, never had any failures what-so-ever...

[Frenchy]

is the XD actually "cocked" or partially cocked?

The reason that the HS/XD is considered a single action, is because the striker is fully cocked when a round is chambered.
The Glock on the other hand, is partially cocked when chambered...hence a double action.
Both guns still have to have their triggers pulled fully to the rear to release the strikers (like a double action).

[Ala Dan]

I've never owned a Springfield XD; but I had a NIB
SIGARMS P229 in .40 S&W. It was probably me, but
this weapon left a lot to be desired? I think it was
the caliber more than anything else; as the .40 was
very snappy, with recoil and muzzle blast being a
little above average. As to the weapon its-self, I
would most likely buy another one; but in 9m/m
caliber. But here again, I'm predjuice cuz I favor
the .45 caliber SIG-SAUER P220A over just about
everything else. :uhoh: :D

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

[ny32182]

I have fired a 229/.357, my buddy's XD, and of course, my own 226/.40.

I don't know exactly what you prefer in a handgun, but there is a level of engineering quality in the Sig that is simply not there in a lesser handgun, including the XD. And, I wouldn't expect it to be, considering the price gap.

The XD seems to me to be a fine weapon, especially considering the price... but give me a choice, and I will take the SIG every time. Of course, I do consider the SIG P series to be the ultimate service handgun, so I might be a little biased... ;)

So.... disregard my opinion. Now.

[repsychler]

I had a Sig P232, the most beautiful and well built gun I have ever owned. That said, once I discovered the XD, I traded the Sig for an XD9 Subcompact and have not regretted it one bit.

The true answer to your question is, buy 'em both. :D I wish I could have kept both the P232 and the XD but finances wouldn't allow it. Eventually I think I'll get another Sig, probably one larger than the P232.

[Quack]

i HAD an XD-40 Tactical and XD-9 Sub. they are now gone and replaced by a Sig P225 and P226. get what fits you best. i dumped the XD's because i'm waiting for my XD9 Tactical, got more $ from the XD40 tact than i paid for it (bought it for $300 sold it for $350) got rid of the XD9 sub because i bought a Sig P239 which fits me better for carry and the XD9 Sub was a straight trade for the P225. the XD9 sub is better than the G27 that i had.

[care-less]

Beretta hi-caps work just fine in the XD.

[Quack]

you have to modify the beretta mag catch to work with the XD. the mad also stick out of the bottom a little. if you force the beretta mag in to hard, you can break the ejector. if you are getting a XD9, use the .40 mags to hold 15rds of 9mm

[orangeninja]

I heard of some factory demo 229's that are LNIB for $630.00 that I will go check out....also another dealer said he would get a new one for me for $25.00 above cost plus S&H and then I've got another guy who has a good price on the net....I think I'm going with the Sig for one reason only....because I'm required to carry one on duty, so it makes sense to carry the same thing off duty. That being said...the weight and ergonomics of the XD + the lifetime warranty and level of service at Springfield, make the XD a better choice for a civilian cocealed weapon. So I guess I should just get practical.:rolleyes:

[Kilroy]

Loaded chamber indicator adds three parts. It is cocked when the slide is cycled, with the 3 piece firing pin assembly held back by the sear and the firing pin lock.

Grip safety LOOKS useful and mostly is, though it appears to have scant hold on the sear. Perhaps that is enough.

Magazine release is unique, ambidextrous, but has four parts to Glock's two. Lock block et. Al., are very Sig like. Rear rails are plastic.

I would be very interested in it's long term durability and safety.

Shoots OK. Nice size and friendly to small hands.

As I get involved in writing selection criteria for handguns meant for duty use and concealed carry, this gun would be described as a single action auto, that is carried in a cocked striker mode. There is no active safety, such as the thumb safety on a 1911 types, while retaining their grip safety and firing pin safety (in many cases).

Both guns still have to have their triggers pulled fully to the rear to release the strikers (like a double action).

"Like a double action" is bearable, because you cannot see the cocked firing mechanism of the XD. This may seem to be a small point to some, it is important enough to take the extra steps and analyze for potential problems.

I see them selling used at the $300 price point and worth much less on trade. One pending trade is a well use Sig 228 for a Sig 229R with $75 boot. The wholesale value of the XD would not come close to allowing such a trade. The dealer would not even consider it.

I am currently testing an XD9 Subcompact, though I carry a 228 daily.

[orangeninja]

I went and checked on the factory demo 229 and not a moment too soon. One was pretty ragged out, the other was in PERFECT condition and had active night sights, triple aspect and the front strap grip tape all "factory" installed. The price was 639.....I bought that sucker. By the way...for those who don't know, (as I didn't) that grip tape really helps to hold your grip...not hype.

[George Hill]

"I would be very interested in it's long term durability and safety."


I've yet to hear of any HS 2000 owners shaking fists about busted rear frame rails... How many years have those things been in the US?
There is your Long Term.

[Frenchy]

I have carried my HS2K as a duty weapon for 3 years. It has performed at 100% during this time. No broken parts...no operational failures...and no noticeable wear on critical parts.
It is however, starting to show it's age on the high parts of the finish. Duty holsters will do that.
I'll report again next year!...Just let me know when I've reached "Long Term". ;)

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[CL]

I have a P229 .357 and I used to have an XD 9mm, which I sold to get a P239 for carry. I think the XD is an excellent firearm and very accurate also and you can't beat the price. I liked the XD a lot, but I just prefer the feel of the SIG and the reliability of knowing . If and when they come out with the XD in .45 I will be getting one for sure to keep my P220 company.
You will not regret getting the P229!

[Absolut]

i love both of my XD's!

[orangeninja]

you've been a lot of help.

[355sigfan]

The resale will be better. It will have better workmanship probably be more accurate, etc. The XD is nice, but just a slightly improved Glock with no factory high-caps available.
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I would not say its an improved glock. I hate the trigger on the sd. The weight is fine but the reset is long like a sig. I like the shorter reset on glocks and 1911's much better. This alone kept me from buying the XD. It also gives up 3 rounds in 40sw and 357 sig to its Glock competators.
Pat

[Kilroy]

XD Sub compact now has 1K through it. No problems, no quirks.

Was just in a school with an officer who had his XD40 lose a pin out of the top of the slide.

I like them, but won't be adding them to the bid list, nor recommending them any time soon for LE work. When the technical write up reveals a cocked, single action auto with no active safety, it gets placed behind 1911s for duty use and consideration. It certainly offers a lot of utility to the small handed shooter.

[45R]

Congrats on your new SIG!!! :)

[jar]

Well, having owned several SiGs as well as several HS2Ks, I found them both very good. The HS2000s have been totally reliable and very accurate. I would rate them right up there with the P-series SiGs and slightly above the SiGPros. The only real advantage over the SiGPros though was that the HS2K takedown was simpler than on the SiGPro.

[orangeninja]

I bought a Sig Pro 2340 about 2 months ago or so....in .40. It was the most accurate .40 I have ever shot, including a 226 and 229. I loved it so much I bought a second one. (they were blowing them out at cost) I have never had a problem in the Sig Pro....be warned however, breaking one down is easy...getting it back together is tricky.

I find the XD to be a mixture of Glock, 1911 and Sig.

The breakdown, bore axis and grip angle tend to favor a Sig.

The accessory rail, overall gun shape and trigger favors a Glock.

The Grip saftey....duh..a 1911

no doubt the gun is a winner, I will probably get one some day.