Winchester 94ae in .45 colt w/ 250gr XTP's


August 25, 2011, 04:44 PM
What are your loads? I'm looking for H110 preferably. Anyone have any ideas about what max pressure is for this chamber?


*edit* hodgdon states 25.7 grs = 27,000 CUP (starting for a blackhawk receiver) up to 26.5 @ 29,800 CUP with H110, and I've done some research on the interwebs that states that this receiver maxes at 40,000. Can anyone confirm it?

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August 26, 2011, 07:46 PM
John Linebaugh lists this load and says it can be used with the 250gr XTP...
260 cast with H-110
starting load: 25.5gr 1364fps 24,800 cup
Maximum load: 27.0gr 1459fps 30,600 cup
Velocity is with a test barrel equal to a 5.5" revolver.

August 27, 2011, 06:51 PM
I use 20.0gr of #2400 under the 250gr Hornady XTP in my Win Mod94. It's the "Legacy" model with 24"bbl. (Nosler lists this in their #4 manual as maximum for 250gr bullet in "BlackHawks" only section. They also list it as most accurate, I belive it too...).

I get 1,750fps and it's unbelieveably accurate. I have a Williams 5D reciever sight mounted and have shot 1.5" 3-shot groups with it at 100yds.

Typically however, I shoot a cast RFN 255gr bullet over 8.2gr of Universal for 1,100fps. This load will shoot all the way through a 100lb whitetail deer at 75yds. Both me and a friend that uses my bullets in his Taurus 'Thunderer' have done this. No need for $$$ bullets and ammo. I'm "hording" the 500rd box of Hornady "blems" I bought back in '06...

FWIW; I've also shot some of my "RedHawk" loads--- a 310gr Lee FNGC over 20.0gr of #2400 through the Winchester. But, recoil was a tad stiff. Accuracy was good but poi/poa was different. I've sold the RedHawk and havent' loaded up any more of the 310's.....
No need for them...
If I need this much gun, I'll use my Marlin 1895G in .45/70 and a RCBS .459" 300gr FNGC at 1,650fps. (Bullet casts to 318gr gas-checked and lubed; 30.0gr of #2400). This gun loves this load, but it too is "overkill" for my uses.

re: strenth of the mod94. The mod94 has been loaded with the .30/30 since 1895. The SAAMI spec's for the .30/30 is ~40,000cup or about 44,000psi.
The .45lc is up to this. But, be sure to use currently manufactured brass. The older brass isn't up to these kind of pressures....... For "warm" loads I recommend the Starline brass. I like the Magtech for use with my cast bullets as brass is thinner and "obturates" with lower charges and remains sealed till bullet clears muzzle with lower loads. Hence, my 8.2gr of Universal will remain "sealed" without blowback. At 7.8gr's and Starline cases, I get blowback....... Also with most ".45colt SAA safe loads......

August 27, 2011, 07:50 PM
Should I be safe using rem / win / starline brass with 22.5 / 23 gr h110 loads under a 250gr XTP?

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