Solve this puzzle


August 25, 2011, 06:01 PM
Okay, what are these?

Other than the obvious answer "45 auto ammo"! What is that cap inserted in the HP of the bullet. I have a suspicion they're some sort of explosive, that cap is just that, a percussion cap.

Got these from my nephew that was helping clean out a garage. He ran across a box of shells, and black powder loading stuff. There was one speer 45 shotshell, one hardball and one black talon HP.

I will shoot them, try to hit a rock or something hard to see if they pop!:what::scrutiny::eek:

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August 25, 2011, 06:12 PM
Looks like a primer set into the hollow point. A homemade exploding bullet? Back in the early 1900's they made a dangerous game load, like an 8 bore, that had a .38 cartridge in the nose. Supposedly that would explode the bullet after poking a hole in your elephant.

August 25, 2011, 06:24 PM
In the 80's there were several companies making "exploding" bullits. I've got some around here somewhere. Has to hit a hard surface to work reliably.



August 25, 2011, 06:28 PM
I believe they are factory rounds. The red primer sealant is visible on the edge of the primer.

I just weighed the factory hardball,(which SHOULD be 230 grains), the difference is 13 grains lighter for the mystery round. That makes it a 217 grain bullet.

It does look to be the same size as the large pistol primer in the loaded round. One thing for sure, I'm NOT going to fool around to try to pull the bullet. I kinda like my fingers where they are!:D

Shadow 7D
August 25, 2011, 06:33 PM
someone having fun, yeah those are up there with the 'mercury' bullets
shoot some ballistic gel or send them to BOX-O-TRUTH
actually send them to box o truth, and have them test them, it would be fun, and they'll write it up and post it for you

August 25, 2011, 06:41 PM
I know they are illegal to hunt with or carry as SD in most if not all states but I'm not sure about just to have or shoot for fun. I've heard of stories where they blow up guns but that seems a bit impractical to me. I still wouldn't shoot them because who knows what is inside of them. Put a ear plug in you puller & tear them down.

August 25, 2011, 07:01 PM
Devastators. Sold in the 80s, I had some in 9mm. Primer with a small charge of powder in the hollow point cavity. Made interesting holes in wet newspaper, but I do not know of any that were used in a human.

Shadow 7D
August 25, 2011, 07:50 PM
Yes you do
Regan was shot with one
his assassin used a .22 revolver loaded with devastators

August 25, 2011, 07:59 PM
Just have to know what to ask the internet!

Looks like it's still being made, can still get it. I'll go ahead with shooting it in my 45 SA auto, one-at-a-time. There's some that say striking the feed ramp might set one off.

August 25, 2011, 11:33 PM
Go ahead snuff and let us know how they act! I won't be ordering any.

August 26, 2011, 12:26 AM
The feed ramp would be my concern. The bullet nose shape "looks like" it wouldn't set it off. Tell us how they shoot.:D:evil::what::uhoh::eek:

August 26, 2011, 12:32 AM
In that case Shadow, we know they suck. :) I have never seen a 22lr version, the ones I saw were 9 and 45, with just small pistol primer and gunpowder of some kind behind it, (this was before 40, and 41 AE was the up and comer), and they didn't have that lurid packaging

August 26, 2011, 02:04 AM
Too bad they don't come in .38 Special or .357 Magnum. (at least not on the site linked to above)

August 26, 2011, 10:15 AM
Pricey stuff, those Devastator rounds.:eek:

Shadow 7D
August 26, 2011, 08:44 PM
Sixteen minutes after the assassination attempt, the ATF found that the gun had been purchased at Rocky's Pawn Shop in Dallas, Texas.[27] It had been loaded with six "Devastator"-brand cartridges which contained small aluminum and lead azide explosive charges designed to explode on contact; the bullet that hit Brady likely exploded in his skull. On April 2, after learning that the others could explode at any time, volunteer doctors wearing bulletproof vests removed the bullet from Delahanty's neck.[23][6]:223

From Wikipedia 'Reagan Assassination'

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