Substitution


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MoreIsLess
August 27, 2011, 08:00 AM
Sometimes I have trouble locating the bullets that are recommended in the loading manuals (e.g. Lyman 49th)

So, my question is can I substitute something else and still use the same table data

Example
For 200gr .45ACP load my Lyman book suggests Speer Gold Dot HP #4478. Can I substitute a similar 200gr .45ACP JHP from another mfgr, such as Hornady XTP Bullets 45 Caliber (451 Diameter) 200 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point

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243winxb
August 27, 2011, 08:13 AM
Yes, but if loading to maximum , reduce the powder charge and work up as always. Different component=Different pressure.

loadedround
August 27, 2011, 08:17 AM
Ditto for above reply.

Walkalong
August 27, 2011, 08:55 AM
If they are of similar construction and bearing length, yes. As posted, back off and work back up.

MoreIsLess
August 27, 2011, 11:35 AM
So would it be safe to use a 230gr FMJ when the data in the load manual calls for a 230gr JHP?

chhodge69
August 27, 2011, 05:58 PM
230gr FMJ
is the same as 230gr RN (not LRN)

scythefwd
August 27, 2011, 06:02 PM
Moreisless - I would expect the HP to be a longer round due to the cavity. The seating depth would be at issue in this case. Powder charges should be ok.. but like everyone said above... Load light and work up.

1SOW
August 28, 2011, 10:37 PM
So would it be safe to use a 230gr FMJ when the data in the load manual calls for a 230gr JHP?


Normally the oal will need to change--longer for the FMJ, so it would be less pressure with the same JHP load.

ArchAngelCD
August 29, 2011, 02:07 AM
In shotshells you can not substitute components. With rifle ammo components are a lot less sensitive and with handgun ammo it's almost not important to a point. Primers of the same type (small pistol for small pistol) matter very little as do bullet manufacturers. As long as the bullets are of the same type (jacketed for jacketed and lead for lead) and of the same profile and weight you should be fine with a little adjustment of OAL. Most of this has been said above but I said it again in agreement with the others.

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