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Vitamin August 29, 2011, 05:31 AM My wife is currently deciding between a Sig P239 and P228. She likes the feel of both but the decocker is too stiff for her. She has mild carpal tunnel problems and still shoots, changing hands when one hurts.
Will the decocker loosen up with use or should she move toward a different pistol? She doesn't care for DAO.
Vit
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docnyt August 29, 2011, 06:35 AM In my experience with SIG P220 and 226, the decocker does not loosen up. Does she have a problem racking the slide? That's usually the problem area for arthritic/weaker hands.
You may want to check out a CZ75 with a safety and not a decocker. I'm not saying it's the same gun but it may be easier to flick the safety off. Plus it can be had in SA mode. I believe SIG has SA only also, or they can be modified to SA only.
Vitamin August 29, 2011, 07:00 AM Thanks.
She has no problem racking the slide, she also doesn't try to pinch it. I haven't thought of SA, have to look into that.
She tried a CZ P-01 and the decocker and slide was fine. I like CZs but it's just not what she wants.
Vit
docnyt August 29, 2011, 10:00 AM Looking at the SIG 239's size and dimensions, I wonder if you should try a Makarov PM or CZ 82 or even a Walther PPS? I swear by my Maks. Very sturdy little buggers. A bit heavier than the polymer pistols but I have an East German in my carry rotation.
rellascout August 29, 2011, 11:07 AM The decocker will not get smoother IMHO. I have never noticed a change in any I have owned. The upside to this is that the decocker is not used that often. Load the gun at the range decock and fire or load the gun decock and hoslter. If the gun is used in a defensive situation which requires a reload the gun will not be decocked again it will remain in SA.
Has she tired a DAK trigger on the P239? Might be an alternative to standard DAO.
MJ_ATL August 29, 2011, 01:52 PM You might also look into a thinner grip which could position her thumb in a better place to use the decock lever. Also, has she tried it with her support hand?
1KPerDay August 29, 2011, 02:08 PM Get the DAK variant. No decocker.
9mmepiphany August 29, 2011, 05:48 PM I know you mentioned that she didn't like the DAO, but I'm also wondering if you've had a chance to try their DAK...much lighter and smoother.
If you really like the DA/SA, have you tried having her de-cock with the support thumb? Nothing says you have to de-cock with the thumb of your shooting hand...I've taught women who have used their support thumb to both de-cock and the release the magazines.
rellascout August 29, 2011, 05:51 PM If you really like the DA/SA, have you tried having her de-cock with the support thumb? Nothing says you have to de-cock with the thumb of your shooting hand...I've taught women who have used their support thumb to both de-cock and the release the magazines.
I have smaller hands and this is one of the methods I use.
gc70 August 29, 2011, 05:59 PM I don't have small hands, but I use my support hand thumb to decock when I am practicing DA/SA transitions and don't want to shift my grip.
Vitamin August 29, 2011, 08:24 PM I'll have her try with her support hand. Maybe she can use both thumbs.
I can't recall seeing one of the DAK pistols locally, but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks for your help.
Vit
The Lone Haranguer August 29, 2011, 08:56 PM With its location further rearward, the CZ75 D-model decocking lever is easier to reach and does not require extreme pressure out at the end of your thumb.
AKElroy August 29, 2011, 09:03 PM I have a 2022 and the decocker on it is fairly light. I will get my wife to try it, she has tiny hands.........................................................................................................................Nope, she can't do it. Support hand works.
Telekinesis August 29, 2011, 09:26 PM I have a 228 and have noticed that the decocker lightened up a bit with use, but then again, I did A LOT of decocking while I was getting used to the DA/SA transition. (It was my first pistol too, so that had some to do with it.)
Like some others here have said, I would recommend using the support hand to decock the gun. Unless you're practicing drills or something that you want to decock to get the DA pull, there are really very few times you will need to use it. I personally find it a little awkward to use the support thumb, but my hands are big enough to comfortably reach all of the controls with my firing hand while maintaining a firing grip.
1SOW August 29, 2011, 11:17 PM My 9mm 239 decocker did loosen up after several K rounds, but not a whole lot.
I too have small hands and sometimes use the weak hand to decock. You are 'finished shooting' when you de-cock, so no great speed or dexterity is needed. I also manually de-cock sometimes.
ActionJax August 29, 2011, 11:38 PM Sig P229 here. I love the DA/SA, even though Glock-philes don't. I have no problems operating the decocker -- I think either it loosened up, or I got used to it. I do it all the time, in fact, I practice DA at the range, so it's :
Long DA pull, decock, Long DA pull, Decock, etc......
Never gives me even a slight hitch.
If I were doing it again, I MIGHT try to shoot a DAK. I hera they are great for those who think DAO and decockers are too stiff.
Love the Sig, though :)
Good Luck.
silversport August 30, 2011, 08:09 AM ...are you sure the decocker is working correctly???...mine have always been pretty easy to decock...the manipulation might be more difficult than the actual decock...
Bill
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