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JO JO
August 29, 2011, 05:30 PM
how is power pistol and 9mm is it real flashy and can it be
loaded min to max with good results
thanks in advance for any advise

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JDGray
August 29, 2011, 05:53 PM
I load PP for 9mm, and it works great....Very accurate min to max, even below min loads shoot good. You do notice the flash in dim lit indoor ranges, and on overcast days.

bottlerocket
August 29, 2011, 06:30 PM
Awesome, time to pick some up then! I love trying out new powders. Gotta see what this Kahr likes

justinpar
August 29, 2011, 11:27 PM
I use Powder Pistol for all of my 9mm loads. The flash is noticeable, and I've had great results with my loads.

noylj
August 29, 2011, 11:36 PM
I find that Power Pistol clumps up in my measure and in my ChargeMaster. I have to turn the measure upside down to let the clumps fall into the powder funnel and i have to poke the clumps to break them up. In the CM, I have to poke the powder to get it to flow out (I am not turning my CM upside down). Good powder and it will light up the indoor range at times.
Don't leave it in your powder measure for any length of time.
I prefer HS6 and Silhouette, but have no complaints about PP's performance on target.

sweater914
August 30, 2011, 12:31 AM
Power pistol works great in several calibers. I use it primarily in .40SW. The powder flakes are about as big as Bullseye but definitely smaller that Unique. Powder flows nicely through the measure only sub 3gr drops cause hang ups on my Uniflow. I had a pound of HS6 that I couldn't remember why I bought it, I used it for the my first 9mm reloads 5.8gr with 125gr MBC RN.

bluetopper
August 30, 2011, 01:20 AM
Power Pistol was specifically formulated for small case, high pressure pistol calibers such as the 9mm, 40 S&W, and 10mm. Why wouldn't it work well?

codefour
August 30, 2011, 05:27 AM
On my last Powder Valley order, I threw in two punds of Power Pistol. I like PP a lot for 9mm and .40. I was using Unique but not anymore. Nice recoil, accurate, and I did not see any flames. It was fairly clean too but not the cleanest.

Now what do I do with the left over six pounds Unique. I will eventually use it.

JDGray
August 30, 2011, 06:11 AM
I find that Power Pistol clumps up in my measure and in my ChargeMaster.
Wow! PP runs through my powder measure like sand....And yeah, when your done using a powder, put it back in the original sealed container;)

Rule3
August 30, 2011, 01:53 PM
I also just picked up some PP for loading 40 SW. I am trying it in 9mm.

I notice a big difference in load values between Speer 14 and the new Hornady #8

For a 124gr FMJ RN Speer lists 5.6 to 6.4gr 1.135

Hornady lists 4.3 to 5.7gr for the same weight shape bullet 1.150

Alliant only list for the 124 GDHP at a max of 6.4. 1.120

I put 6.4 grs in a empty case and to me it would be a compressed charge (or almost) when a bullet is seated.

After shooting this powder in the 40 SW it is a flash , bang, LOUD powder. I can not imagine what 6.4 grs in a 9mm would be??

What are powder charges are you all using??

Rule3
August 30, 2011, 07:29 PM
Anybody loading 9mm with Power Pistol?

Jayhawker
August 30, 2011, 07:51 PM
I load 5.5 grains of Power Pistol with 115 FMJ in five different 9mms for target loads. Very accurate and clean. Meters very well through my 550B. Even at that small load however, it makes quite a flash at an indoor range or in the evening.

Fisherdave10
August 30, 2011, 09:50 PM
For 9mm I use 5gr for 124gr bullets and 6gr for 115gr bullets. Both of those figures are starting loads, but cycle perfectly fine. I find that it meters very well and is accurate. This powder is kind of flashy but it really doesn't matter unless you're shooting in the dark. Flash doesn't bother me at all. Another nice thing is that a double charge overfills the case.

I also use it for .38 Special, .357 Magnum and .40 S&W. It's my favorite pistol powder so far.

My Lyman manual says 5.9gr-6.5gr for 115gr bullets and 5.1gr-5.7gr for 124gr bullets, all jacketed.

Michael R.
August 30, 2011, 09:58 PM
i load power pistol in 9mm with 5.9 grains and 115 grain bullets. even at this small amount, it produces a big white muzzle blast everytime you pull the trigger at an indoor range. looks cool to me!

Cherokee
August 30, 2011, 10:17 PM
Power Pistol gives great performance in 9mm and Super 38.

REL1203
August 31, 2011, 12:13 AM
i just tried some Power Pistol with some 147g Berry RN loads in my 5.25" XDM and it shot VERY well. Both 4.5 and 4.7 shot GREAT, a bit more recoil than i expected, but very good accurate clean shooting.

sweater914
August 31, 2011, 12:23 AM
My standard load is 6.0gr PP with 170gr SWC in .40SW, works great in my H&K USPc to duplicate my duty ammo for practice. I did work up a PP load my Redhawk in .44mag, 9.5grs under a 240gr SWC yielded 1000fps. Please keep in my this load is not listed anywhere, I e-mailed Alliant to find a reasonable starting load and worked up to my target speed.

Should work great in 9mm.

sweater914
August 31, 2011, 12:31 AM
One more thing, I wouldn't worry to much about the flash. During daylight hours I haven't noticed a huge flash during my drills for qual.

20grs of 2400 pushing a 240gr .44 mag will produce noticable flash plus a 12in flame that I can't see, but it's really cool watching from the side.:evil:

That's what I us a basis for comparison, 9mm will be quite a bit less.

Clark
August 31, 2011, 01:22 AM
When I started handloading ~ 12 or 13 years ago, I tried to work up every 9mm bullet and powder to the point of destroying the pistol.
I did underground testing with a trigger string. Not a good idea. The back pressure sucks grit into the pistol.
I kept the records in spread sheets, not the best format for that kind of data.

But Power Pistol really stands out for getting more power out of the 9mm.
But then, lots of powders will produce more recoil than any production 9mm pistol can deal with.

For less flash, try 3N37.

JO JO
September 1, 2011, 01:20 PM
well bought a pound of power pistol powder now to start working loads for 124gr plated
RN thinking I will start at 5.0 and 5.2gr and see how they fly

Rule3
September 1, 2011, 05:50 PM
I just came from the range. Shot 9mm and 40 SW.

9mm, 124 gr fmjrn with 5.2 gr PP. Nice load, accurate and not too snappy

40 SW, 180 gr fmjrn with 6.0 gr PP. Much nicer than the 7.0 grs I originally used.

To hot and humid to mess with setting up the Chronograph, maybe in October.

Both out of compact CZ 75's

Next batch I am going to reduce even more, I know going the wrong way. I want to see how low and still have good function and accuracy.

Not that I care about "clean burning" as I clean my guns anyway, but this powder definitely leaves a lighter "ash" color on the spent brass rather than a dark carbon.

JO JO
September 17, 2011, 09:00 PM
just tryed power pistol with 5.0 and 5.2 both functioned fine no failures 9mm 124 gr plated rn going to try these loads with different oal 1.30-1.50 and go with what works
best for me/ there just paper puncher/plinker. did not notice any huge flash or heavy
recoil with this powder ?

soloban
September 17, 2011, 11:31 PM
I use it in .45 ACP and 9mm. I load just shy of the max with FMJs in both calibers and it works great. Punchy but very accurate.

mjmagee67
September 18, 2011, 09:53 PM
My wife like 5.6gr PP with Hornady or MG 115gr, that seems to work well for her, nice recoil and accurate enuff. Plus it makes the powder go further, I use 6.6gr in my .40 using 180gr bullets.

SharpsDressedMan
September 19, 2011, 12:20 AM
My favorite load is now 4.5gr Power Pistol under a 147gr FMJ Remington "match" bullet. I have found the 147gr bullets of most all makes to be more accurate in my 9mm guns (Walther, Browning, Beretta, CZ, and S&W), so now this handload is my practice round. It was chronographed at 912fps.

JO JO
September 19, 2011, 01:34 AM
so far im likeing power pistol loaded up another batch to test at 5.1 for
some 124gr rn plated oal in groups at 1.3 / 1.4/ 1.5 looking foward to
test these. I think this is the part of loading I like best finding a favorite.
Next will be looking at trying it in my 40 cals ?
Thanks again for all advise and opinions can always use more:)

amlevin
September 20, 2011, 11:13 AM
I have been loading Max loads of PP with 124gr Montana Gold JHP's for a couple of years now. Extra flash from my Sig P229 but less noticeable from my CZ75 SP-01. For less flash I use 3n37 but like the cost of the power pistol better.

Power Pistol is just the ticket for a pistol with a compensator.

TonyT
September 20, 2011, 12:00 PM
I tried Power Pistol using a 147 gr. FMJ. It performed well at velocities between 900 and 950 fps. I finally opted for a faster burning powder with less flash ans use either Bullseye or WSF for my 9mm loads.

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