T/C Venture in .30-06


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wishooter
September 7, 2011, 02:25 AM
Just picked up a Venture in .30-06 http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/venture.php

Just wondering if anyone has developed any pet loads. right now I have ImR 3031, Varget, H4895 and a couple others, but would be interested in trying something else. I am hoping to stick with barnes triple shock tipped tsx 130gr, because I have heard great things abou them. I would like try some else's pet loads first since these bullets are so dang expensive. Any info or experience you guys have had with the cartridge, gun, or bullets would be appreciated.

Adam

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GooseGestapo
September 8, 2011, 02:20 AM
I been shooting/hunting with the '06 for 37years, but I've not gotten around to, or felt the need to shoot the Barnes bullets

I've handled a couple of the T/C's and they seem to be good for the money, but I don't care for the "look". I'm a walnut/blue steel/hand fitted kind of guy.

For the 130gr TTSX, the Varget and H4895 will be good. Do try the IMR3031 as I've gotten superb accuracy with it in a number of cartridges through the years.

I suggest that you start with data worked up for that bullet as it behaves like a "heavier" bullet than conventional bullets of that weight will. This means that max will be between 5% and 10% lighter than conventional bullets.

As you start shooting and find out how fast 50 bullets will go. You'll want to use some conventional bullets at 1/4 the cost.
Check out MidwayUSA's "blem" bullets. I got some Hornady 180gr Softpoints for what they cost me in 1983, recently....... I could have bought 50 130gr TTSX's for what I bought 300 Hornady "blems".........
Much more satisfying for my "itchy" trigger finger......

But, 300 180's will use a LOT more powder than 50, 130's........

snuffy
September 8, 2011, 01:44 PM
Welcome to THR.

I am hoping to stick with barnes triple shock tipped tsx 130gr, because I have heard great things about them.

What are you hunting that requires a copper solid bullet? IF you are hunting somewhere that requires lead-free ammo, then it is an okay choice.

Pure copper bullets normally foul the bore quite badly. They also are quite sensitive to OAL in relation to the lead in the chamber/barrel.

Might I suggest the excellent GMX bullet from Hornady. Or the nosler E-tip. Both are silid guilding metal bullets and have the plastic tip like the Barnes TTSX.

My experience is with the GMX. In my 300 WSM it expands very well and is quite accurate. A couple of pics;

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/bullets/websize/P6290043_edited.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/bullets/websize/P6290044_edited.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/bullets/websize/P6290046_edited.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/bullets/websize/P6290052_edited.JPG

Those were fired into gallon milk jugs of water. Velocity of those 165 GMX was just over 3000 fps@ 100 yds. They also make a 150, closer to your 130's. Best part is they're less expensive.

wishooter
September 20, 2011, 11:52 PM
Snuffy, I picked up the Barnes because they had great reviews and I got a good deal on them. I was unaware of the fouling and the OAL, I do see that barnes states to seat them .050 off the lands. live,learn and listen to those that are wiser than you. I have not loaded them yet, but I will not be buying them the next time around.

I have been playing around with some 147gr FMJ, and I cannot get the thing to group well. Talking about 3" @100yds. I even tried with Factory Rem rounds with a little better results, but not the 1moa they guarantee... Now, I am not bashing T/C at all, I wrote them a letter and am waiting for a response, I am sure I just need to find its pet load. I am almost positive it is not me, as I have hid dummy rounds in magazine and did not experience any flinch, and I am pretty good with all my other rifles.



Also, I have a Burris Fullfield II scope and Weaver Rings. I have the bullets seated about .005 off the rifling, and I have a small crimp on them. FYI

If anyone had any pointers I am humble and all ears.

wishooter
September 20, 2011, 11:53 PM
Also, I have heard that for the rifling twist on these T/C's, they may like a little heavier bullet...

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