Why No Love For The Remington 597 22LR?


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Mr.Blue
September 7, 2011, 08:19 PM
I know it had magazine problems in the past, but Remington seems to have remedied this problem.

I bought a Remington 597 SS with synthetic stock and stainless barrel. It even came with a Simmons rimfire scope. It is very very accurate and has had no feeding problems. It is also a quite substantial rifle that feels like a centerfire rifle. This makes practice with the 597 very useful, as it feels like my Remington 700's.

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Jonny V
September 7, 2011, 11:05 PM
I have one in stainless/synthetic too. Great shooter, I just wish the recoil spring/guide rods were a little easier to install/remove. I wouldn't trade mine, I can tell you that, it's accurate as all get out. Routinely piles 20 shots into an inch or so at 50 yards. Good enough for the girls I date!:evil:

Virg461
September 7, 2011, 11:07 PM
I've had one for a couple of years now and it's been great. Feeds and ejects flawlessly, except with subsonics, but that's a common problem with all autoloaders. It does cycle with Wolf Match Target A-OK, and is very, very accurate with this round, .5 inch groups at 50 yards consistently.

Mine's outfitted with Tech-Sights, and I've taken it to two Appleseeds (I used it at one and my son used it the second time). Worked like a champ.

ThatGuyHank
September 7, 2011, 11:14 PM
I have one that i shoot occasionally. I used the think it was a jam-o-matic but it turned out that i wasn't letting the trigger reset, for me it is rather long and has no positive "click". I would go to pull the trigger and no *bang*. So I'd work the bolt and get it to fire. I then learned it to be odd that the trigger had no give if it was a supposed jam. watched my finger and let it reset all the way and now it functions flawlessly. The trigger reset would be my only problem with the gun. Otherwise, it is very accurate and will feed just about everything i run through it.

CraigC
September 8, 2011, 12:48 PM
Out of the box, they are a better gun than any of the offerings from Ruger or Marlin. Mine is quite accurate. The triggers are heavy but very crisp and predictable. They're not as attractive as a 10/22 and the lack of aftermarket support are the only real drawbacks.

Gunnerboy
September 8, 2011, 03:05 PM
The remington is in accuary comparable to my 1022, both shoot 1in or better at 100 yards with irons, now for the look the remington is more like a mosin nagant ugly but somehow attractive still, where the 1022 is more like a fine mauser good looking and comfortable to shoot.

CraigC
September 8, 2011, 03:43 PM
I wouldn't go that far Craig.
I would. I've owned all three for quite a few years and that is my assessment. Feel free to put me back on your ignore list.


The remington is in accuary comparable to my 1022, both shoot 1in or better at 100 yards with irons...
Uh, what???

More claims of $100 rifles shooting MOA at 100yds. Now with iron sights. Surely with bulk ammo no less! :rolleyes:

Bivensb
September 8, 2011, 04:11 PM
Hey everyone, I'm new here...

My only reason I went with a Marlin 795 is because I got it for $85 after taxes and rebate. If they were the same price, I may have gone with the Remmington... (or a Marlin 60 for that matter)

Bivensb
September 8, 2011, 04:20 PM
Quote:
The remington is in accuary comparable to my 1022, both shoot 1in or better at 100 yards with irons...
Uh, what???

More claims of $100 rifles shooting MOA at 100yds. Now with iron sights. Surely with bulk ammo no less!


I wouldn't doubt this is possible, if the rifle is sitting in a shooting rest when being shot. Now hitting what you are aiming for from 100 yards with irons is a different story altogether...

Gunnerboy
September 8, 2011, 05:17 PM
craigc, the accuracy that i speak of is capable by anyone who is properly trained to shoot. And yes as a matter of fact it was bulk ammo the cci blazer with 40gr lead bullets.

Mr.Blue
September 8, 2011, 11:04 PM
I agree with CraigC in that the 597 is more accurate than the 10/22 and Marlin out of the box. Many reviews that I have read have read the same way. That said, you can really upgrade a 10/22's accuracy with aftermarket parts.

CraigC
September 9, 2011, 12:10 AM
craigc, the accuracy that i speak of is capable by anyone who is properly trained to shoot. And yes as a matter of fact it was bulk ammo the cci blazer with 40gr lead bullets.
I'm gonna have to cry foul. There are plenty of folks here who know what it takes to shoot MOA at 100yds with a .22LR and a $100 rifle with open sights shooting bulk ammo ain't it. "Training" has nothing to do with it.

Gunnerboy
September 9, 2011, 12:44 AM
Alright you can tell that to the Marine Corp im sure they would love to hear how "training has nothing to do with it".

Virg461
September 9, 2011, 09:48 AM
I know that my Rem 597 will shoot half inch groups at 50 all day long with a rest and a scope. But not with every cheap ammo available. At 100....better hope for a calm day. .22's drift a lot with the wind.

I've shot quite a few Rugers (and ran a lot of ammo through Dad's growing up) and I've never seen one that would shoot MOA until someone spent a few hundred bucks on upgrades. Bull barrel, new trigger group, etc, and yeah, they'll do it. My Remington was doing it the week I bought it.

Both are quality rifles, as is the Marlin 795. Honestly, for the money, I've absolutely amazed by that little Marlin. Heck of a rifle for $99 now at Dick's.

montanaoffroader
September 9, 2011, 10:04 AM
I loved my 597, right up to the day my youngest daughter decided it was 'hers'. Bowing to the inevitable, I officially handed it over on her last birthday. :(

Of course, this means that I need to go out and buy a replacement.........:evil:

CraigC
September 9, 2011, 11:54 AM
Alright you can tell that to the Marine Corp im sure they would love to hear how "training has nothing to do with it".
All the training in the world ain't gonna make up for the limitations of your equipment. Unless the Marine Corps is teaching you how to cast spells or issuing magic pixie dust.

It takes a very accurate .22LR rifle to shoot MOA at 100yds. This ain't centerfire shooting where MOA at 50yds translates to MOA at 100yds or even 200yds. Things begin to fall apart around 75yds. You need a rifle that will shoot 1/2 to 3/4MOA at 50yds to shoot MOA at 100yds. Box stock Marlins, Remingtons and Rugers ain't gonna cut it. Bulk or any high velocity ammo ain't gonna cut it. Period. End of story. No matter what the Marine Corps taught you. Most 10/22's shoot around an inch at 50yds which is gonna translate to at least 3" at 100yds. Probably worse with bulk ammo and open sights. I can shoot MOA at 100yds with buckhorn sights and I know what it takes to shoot MOA at 100yds with a .22LR. Yours is a tall tale.

I'll gladly pay $500 for all the hundred dollar rifles that can be proven to consistently shoot MOA at 100yds with bulk ammo.

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