22lr pistol with the smallest grip


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lono
September 7, 2011, 11:41 PM
I have a daughter with small hands, she shoots my Ruger 22/45 MK3 but has trouble with the grip size. Note: She shoots with the gun resting on a bag and with my arms around her within an inch of the weapon.
My question is what is the 22 pistol with the smallest/thinnest grip?

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Geckgo
September 7, 2011, 11:52 PM
.22lr derringer?

22 pistols tend to be a little fat-in-the-pants, most of the autos are designed like the bobcat. I would recommend my pheonix arms pistol or a Jennings, but the anti-sns-crowd will bash that to death, so other than mentioning it in this sentance I won't bring it up.

Some of the 22 revolvers out there might be better suited for her needs.

Twiki357
September 8, 2011, 12:18 AM
Take her to a gun store or gun show and see what she thinks is a comfortable fit. A single action revolver would be most likely.

ants
September 8, 2011, 12:21 AM
Ruger Bearcat

Shienhausser
September 8, 2011, 12:22 AM
I think a p22 is as small a grip as I want to shoot.

RaceM
September 8, 2011, 12:23 AM
You might look into some older pieces termed "pocket revolvers". Many have bird's head grips which work well with small hands.

Deus Machina
September 8, 2011, 03:50 AM
The NAA mini-revolver has grips so small I can barely control one. It's a two-finger grip, if that.

The P22 has a pretty small grip, but small-framed revolvers traditionally have grips that I, IMHO, find uncomfortably and disproportionately thin. Thus the oversized wood on them.

Kendal Black
September 8, 2011, 03:59 AM
J frame Smith.

berettaprofessor
September 8, 2011, 06:55 AM
Ruger Bearcat or Walther P22 are the smallest grips that are decent quality handguns....and I use the term quality loosely to include the P22.

Hanzo581
September 8, 2011, 07:20 AM
P22 is small and works just fine with decent ammo. My wife has small hands and loves to shoot hers.

Sam1911
September 8, 2011, 08:26 AM
I was doing this with my daughter at 3 years old.

Ruger Bearcat is the perfect answer, bar-none.

ForumSurfer
September 8, 2011, 08:38 AM
Ruger Bearcat is the perfect answer, bar-none.

Yep, what he said.

If you are absolutely dead set on a semi, go with something that has a short, thin barrel (like the standard mark II's and III's). My youngest son gets fatigued quickly and his shooting suffers when using a longer bull barreled pistol.

scythefwd
September 8, 2011, 09:11 AM
eaa mini is about a 1.5 finger grip, but it has no trigger guard and is only safe in the hands of someone who has safety really drilled in to them.

CraigC
September 8, 2011, 12:15 PM
Ruger Bearcat or Walther P22. Works fine for us bigger folks too so she'll never outgrow either gun.

BCRider
September 8, 2011, 12:24 PM
All the semi autos will be a bit bigger due to the need to put the magazine inside. A revolver would likely be the best way to go. Ruger Bearcat as suggested already or if you can find a used one a S&W Model 34 kit gun.

The nice thing about a revolver is that the grips are wood and thick enough that their shape defines the feel of the gun. Wood is easy to customize down to fit her hands. Then as she grows to bigger hands replace the grips with some new stock size panels.

Smokey in PHX
September 8, 2011, 07:36 PM
I would go with Craig and BCRider. Both make a lot of sense.

GCBurner
September 8, 2011, 10:36 PM
The smallest .22 pistol I have is an Iver Johnson TP22 pocket pistol. It's about half a size smaller than a Walther PPK, with about the same lines and design.

Damon555
September 9, 2011, 01:32 AM
People with smaller hands really enjoy shooting my Neos.....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/edlafond/Weapons/DSC_0663.jpg

masterofchaos
September 9, 2011, 10:36 PM
I second that. I have a Neos U22 with a 6" barrel and it is very comfortable for my female hands. If you want a lower weight they make a 4" barrel, but I will say the 6" is VERY well balanced. Maybe take her to a gun shop and have her hold some. It will at least give her perspective AND some good bonding time ;-)

Super Sneaky Steve
September 9, 2011, 10:50 PM
NAA revolvers are the smallest, but wouldn't be as easy to handle. I think the Ruger Bearcat suggestion was the best.

gordy
September 10, 2011, 10:27 AM
I think the walther would be a bad choice for a young shooter.
As these guns tend to bite the hand that shoots them. It would be a shame to scare the young lady, and she may never want to shoot again.
The wise thing to do would be take her to a gun shop and let her pick up as many guns as she can, To see what fits her.
IMHO and S&W revolver in 22 would work or a ruger bearcat.
A ruger auto would work but as they may be a bit heavy for a young girl. I would recommend a S&W 422 or a 622. light and thin and not to much cash.

oldfool
September 10, 2011, 03:41 PM
cannot disagree w/ the Bearcat
but also agree with the S&W 22 kit guns 4" 63/651, etc., and lots of different grips for 'em you can choose from

pert-near ideal just might be a 22 kit gun w/ both cylinders, but I think that they are about as rare as hen's teeth
our smallest hands lady did like my S&W 622 ok, but my kit guns really do fit her hands better
(I think the current S&W 22A is pretty much same gun as 422/622.. they are a bit too light for some folks, not recoil of course, just too little inertia)

lono
September 10, 2011, 04:10 PM
Thanks to everyone for your input. We are headed to the gun store to see what fits. Report to follow.

lono
September 10, 2011, 10:22 PM
Well we got a Walther P22. Have not been to the range yet but the very low weight and small grip seem to fit her very well. The only problem I see as of now is the heavy trigger pull but she will get used to it. Thanks again for all of your inputs.

Snowbandit
September 10, 2011, 10:31 PM
My grand kids all started shooting with my P-22 when they were 6. With appropriate CLOSE supervision they were all able to handle it.

lono
September 11, 2011, 12:09 AM
Mine is also 6, I sit behind her with my hands very close to hers to not allow muzzle sweep.

pazz
September 11, 2011, 12:23 PM
My question is what is the 22 pistol with the smallest/thinnest grip? Has to be the Walther p22

sm
September 11, 2011, 01:27 PM
My experiences also suggest the Ruger Bearcat.

searcher451
September 11, 2011, 01:46 PM
The Bearcat is a pretty tough one to beat for a variety of reasons, grip size included.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x43/searcher451/RugerBearcat.jpg

The Walther TPH isn't a bad choice either if you want to go the semi-auto route.

PR-NJ
September 11, 2011, 09:00 PM
Another plug for the NEOS, but maybe in a 4" barrel.

Cokeman
September 11, 2011, 10:39 PM
You might look into some older pieces termed "pocket revolvers". Many have bird's head grips which work well with small hands.

Examples?

lono
September 11, 2011, 11:11 PM
We tried the neos but the barrel weight did not suit her hands.

Cokeman
September 11, 2011, 11:19 PM
My daughter likes the P22.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/cowfishlover/IMG_1136.jpg

devildog4329
September 11, 2011, 11:56 PM
Colt woodsman, Huntsman, Challenger, Targetsman.

Kiln
September 11, 2011, 11:59 PM
The P22 was a good choice. Of my .22 pistols that are currently manufactured the grip size and comfort is a tie between the Walther P22 and the Phoenix HP22.

My Walther P22 must be the only one in the world that works going by what is said on these forums but mine hardly ever malfunctions and has been through several thousand rounds too.

The HP22 is alright for a gun that costs $120 new with a lifetime warranty but it does have a limited lifespan. The HP22 needs about 150 rounds through it before it'll be reliable (gotta get the cheap paint off the rails and smooth out the casting marks). My first one only got through about 3k rounds before experiencing a frame crack and going by other people's experiences this seems to be the approximate lifespan you can expect from one. I sent it in and they shipped me back a brand new gun with an extra magazine. As I said, decent pocket pistol for the money, mine worked great and I'm keeping the new one they sent me. Customer service is excellent and will take care of you.

gyvel
September 12, 2011, 12:36 AM
RUGER BEARCAT, for a number of reasons. It is a "cock-and-fire" handgun, so you can properly teach her the basics of gun safety, trigger squeezing, proper sighting, etc. A semi-auto for a beginning young child may not be the best choice.

gyvel
September 12, 2011, 12:37 AM
Colt woodsman, Huntsman, Challenger, Targetsman. All relatively expensive collector's items now.

offonroad
September 12, 2011, 01:36 PM
Im on board with the bearcat, later on the single six!

TonyT
September 12, 2011, 09:13 PM
I do not know of a full sized 22 semi auto pistol with a small grip. You may want to consider on of the S&W j-framed revolvers such as the older 22/32 Kit gun or the stainless Model 63.

masterofchaos
September 13, 2011, 08:17 AM
Sorry to hear Neos was too heavy. I can see that as an issue even though it is well-balanced.

I tried a Ruger Single Six the other week and was pleased with it as it too had a narrow grip. Model 10623 is 32 oz whereas the Neos I think is 36 oz. This is worth a try as they are around $375 and found at most shops.

Triggernosis
September 13, 2011, 03:06 PM
I, too, had a good experience with my P22 - no problems whatsoever.
The Bearcat is a tiny gun, though, if that's what you're looking.

devildog4329
September 13, 2011, 08:07 PM
All relatively expensive collector's items now.

Depending on if you are buying a collectors weapon or a shooter.

Yes there are 1st series match target woodsman's that go from anywhere between 1K and 5K. But there are also challengers, huntsman's, woodsman's, and .22 "Cadets" that will sell for 350-500, for a shooter in decent shape.

I recently picked up two Colt .22 also referred to as the cadet for $350 each.

Next time please do your own research before posting a reply.

I was simpley suggesting pistols that met the OP's requirments. I know that i would take a colt that was built like a tank and will run forever over a pot meatl Zinc mosquito which i aslo own. Just trying to help the OP make an informed decision. Thanks.

Jim PHL
September 14, 2011, 06:47 PM
Had my new Beretta "Bobcat" on the range for the first time today. Full report will be posted but for here and now: definitely small, accurate and fun!

spence
September 14, 2011, 11:13 PM
I have a 4inch J frame S&W that with boot grips on it might be just right.

Maple_City_Woodsman
September 14, 2011, 11:56 PM
The old Walther TPH is exceedingly small. Much thinner than the equivalent Beretta.

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