Which 44 Special to buy?


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azgunner
September 8, 2011, 05:13 PM
Would it be better to buy a new 44 in a Taurus 431 3in blued. Or a Rossi 720C in SS with a 3in barrel with bobed hammer new? Both guns look great. The Rossi is better to conceal, but lighter. They both are for sale at $300.00 with the box. I need help for 44 Special fans.

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mavracer
September 8, 2011, 07:36 PM
I had a 431 it was an outstanding gun. I sold it to a good friend (who still is BTW) when I got my Smith 696. A 3" 44 Special is one of the most perfect shooting packages.

bikemutt
September 8, 2011, 08:10 PM
A friend of mine swears by the old line Charter Arms Bulldogs. Based on what I saw from the one he packs around the gun seemed like it would do the trick for me.

I saw one come up on the local gun trader forum in excellent condition for $300, even though I called within minutes of it being posted, it was already sold :mad:

This same fellow does not care much for the current production of the same gun.

Good luck.

Taildragger-J3
September 8, 2011, 08:56 PM
I've got a 941 in stainless & love it! I really like that it is stainless, but wouldn't pass on the blued one. Either would be good IMHO.

Taildragger-J3
September 8, 2011, 08:58 PM
OOPS meant 431

Dan-O
September 9, 2011, 01:04 AM
I have a 3" Taurus 431 in stainless. Pretty nice little gun, if I do say so myself.

Carne Frio
September 9, 2011, 01:31 AM
I have a Taurus Titanium and a Rossi 720C. They are both great shooters.

sidheshooter
September 9, 2011, 01:33 AM
I've had marginal luck with Rossis (light primer strikes on 2 guns) including a 720.

The 431, however, is the model that got away. I'd love have one. Rob Leahy of simply rugged used to let me shoot his. 431s were good revolvers.
JMO.

Owen Sparks
September 9, 2011, 02:30 AM
I have 3 Rossi's and yes, they are easier to conceal than the Taurus but more robust than Charter Arms. My brother has a Taurus and it is a good bit chunkier. I like the Rossi.

MachIVshooter
September 9, 2011, 02:54 AM
A friend of mine swears by the old line Charter Arms Bulldogs. Based on what I saw from the one he packs around the gun seemed like it would do the trick for me.

I'll second the vote for Charter Bulldog. Mine is one of the newest incarnations, and I love it. Not as refined as a Smith, but pretty darn decent trigger and quite accurate. It's also only 21 ounces (it is a bit of handful with warm loads). The little 5-shot carries very well.

For $350, I'm more than pleased.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/Charter44.jpg

EMC45
September 9, 2011, 02:23 PM
I have a 431 Taurus. I paid 165 OTD a couple years back for it. Sold it once for 175 and got it back for 175. It's not going anywhere.

Carbonator
September 9, 2011, 02:40 PM
I found a used S&W 296 .44 Special Ti / Scandium Airlite in mint condition at a local gun shop, always wanted one so I bought it instead of the Glock. 296's are hard to find. I still wish someone still made a high quality .44 Special like it, designed for concealed / pocket carry. I pocket carry mine and love it. More punch than a .38 and shoots better than a .357 magnum. And it's nearly rustproof. Maybe Smith & Wesson will come out with a pocket / ccw verson of their Night Guard series. I'd buy one in a heart beat.

mavracer
September 9, 2011, 04:12 PM
Maybe Smith & Wesson will come out with a pocket / ccw verson of their Night Guard series.
they make a 396 night guard.

Monster Zero
September 9, 2011, 08:11 PM
I thought the .44spl Nightguard had been discontinued.

mnrivrat
September 9, 2011, 08:19 PM
I think either will serve you just fine. I own a couple of the 720's but not a bobbed hammer version. In the Taurus I opted for the 44 mag Tracker and shot mostly 44 Special from it with good results.

mavracer
September 9, 2011, 08:26 PM
I thought the .44spl Nightguard had been discontinued.
Damn them. I guess they made a 396 nightguard

Super Sneaky Steve
September 10, 2011, 12:06 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/96l1jl.jpg

I say get the Ruger Sheriff's Model and practice your thumbing technique.

Carbonator
September 10, 2011, 12:43 AM
The Night Guard series including the .44 Special version had exposed hammers, and tall protruding sights which was not good for CCW defense IMO and especially not pocket friendly, and the guns were slightly larger than the Airlite 296 .44 Specials that were released about a decade ago. A lot of people call the 296 ugly with that hump covering the hammer, which is likely a reason why S&W discontinued that model. I love the 296 and the hump which lets me grip very high in awkward positions or if I need to shoot from inside a pocket.

weregunner
September 10, 2011, 03:57 AM
Either Rossi or Taurus will serve you well.

In the 2011 Gun Digest one of the well know gun writers considers the Rossi 720 one of the best revolvers out there. He picked his best likes for being reliable and user friendly.

The 720 is sought out by many out there (it's documented at gun forums as well as in print) and is hard to find. They do not last long at Gun Broker.com, Auction Arms.com, or Guns America.com.

On the other hand I have 7 -441 and 431s in blue and stainless steel. I fell in love with one waaaaaay back when they first came out and bought a 4 inch barreled blue version. Some are shorty barreled.

I wound up trading it off for another Taurus.

Since then I've appropriated the 7 I have now just in the recent last couple of years. My love of the .44 Special in a K frame size package has a lot of appeal to me. These only have shots, but I feel I give up little and portability is issue along.

Being a short person, the 5 shot Tauri make carrying a joy compared to trying to haul around a N frame size gun.

All of 441s and 431s have been or are durable,reliable, and accurate.

Can't ask for more than that.

Auction Arms.com and Gun Broker.com where are where most of the Rossi 720s and Tauri can be found, but that is need to keep an eye on those sites very frequently.

If you want a more up to date .44 Special snub revolver in .44 Special there is this.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=122782
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=122783

Lawdawg45
September 10, 2011, 06:39 AM
+1 on the Charter Arms Bulldog!

LD45

PapaG
September 10, 2011, 04:37 PM
I have three 44 specials: Original Charter Bulldog, a 720 Rossi, and a 624 Smith and Wesson. Ratings: Accuracy and controllability goes hands down to the Smith. Concealability to the Charter but it do kick. The Rossi is much heavier than the Charter and has adjustable sights but with the underrib doesn't fit many holsters.
I shoot the Smith for fun, carry the Charter when I'm in a state other than my own which doesn't trust me or anyone else except Chicago mayors and aldermen to carry, and the Rossi when I'm wading the creek for smallies and might find the evil beaver that is cutting my trees. I usually manage to take a spill and don't always have time to tear down and clean up a carbon gun....right away.
Any of the guns you mentioned will do but none are able to handle anything stronger than factory 44 specials..don't hot rod 'em.

snooperman
September 10, 2011, 04:55 PM
It is 28 oz with a 2" barrel and is made on the Compact frame. I bought it several years ago and I see now they brought it back out again and can be had NIB for about $300. I also have the older Charter arms bulldog that I bought more than 30 years ago. It weighs about 21 oz and for many years I carried it each day IWB.

sidheshooter
September 10, 2011, 05:16 PM
One more minor thing about the charter: you can get a Barami hip grip for it. That's a super-easy way to stuff a lot of grains of lead into your waistband for late night letting out of the dog, running to the corner store, urban fitness trekking, or what have you. Most convenient grab-n-go big bore ever.

ChasMack
September 10, 2011, 08:20 PM
I have a Taurus 431 that I bought in the early or mid 90's. It's blue, has a little heft,fixed sights...a tack driver! When I got it I had a Dan Wesson 44 mag and at 15yds with the same ammo the 431 out shot the DW which had 6" barrel. The action is smooth as silk which is the first thing you notice. If I didn't know better I'd say it had action work done. Don't know if they are all like that, but I'll not get rid of this one! I'm not a Taurus fan either...I suppose if a company can produce a lemon, they produce a jewel! Just so happens I'll be getting a Charter 44spl. They are light, handy, American made and overall they get good reviews. I have read where some get a bad Charter, but generally they seem quite good. One of the worst stories was , when today on Youtube I saw a Taurus 608 being shot and the barrel shot off the gun!!

Billymac296
December 28, 2011, 02:04 AM
Another for the Charter Arms Bulldog.

CajunBass
December 28, 2011, 06:00 AM
(Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

Oh quit whimping out and get a REAL gun. Sure you need a belt the width of a country road, and suspenders to carry it, not to mention a really baggy shirt to conceal, but it does get attention when you pull it out. Plus it has six shots not five.

S&W 21-4

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0349.jpg

Seriously, if I wanted a 44 special for carry, I'd probably look for an old Charter Bulldog. Nothing against the new ones, I'd get one if I couldn't find an old one, but old is always my first choice. The two Charter 38's I've got are good solid guns.

DM~
December 28, 2011, 11:50 AM
I'm a big fan of the S&W M-19 4" bbl., and i do carry one in 357 mag., but i also sometimes carry one in 44 spl. too,

http://fototime.com/BE455B3C554B45A/orig.jpg

I owned numerous 44spl.'s over the years, but this is the 44 spl. i like best.

DM

weregunner
December 28, 2011, 11:55 AM
I only need 5 shots! A:) And really only use 1.

weregunner
December 28, 2011, 11:56 AM
At least I don't need a wheeled caisson for mine.

Most of mine are for CCW carry anywhooo. :)

Loosedhorse
December 28, 2011, 12:00 PM
As long as we're looking for guns they don't make: +1 on the Smith 296. 19 oz.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lNDPXjJ98ao/S8ETH0DYoMI/AAAAAAAAAps/BtoLkxCzP8w/s1600/SW296-right.jpg

PS: they still make the 329 Nightguard, which of course can fire .44 Special. 29 oz, pricey.

calaverasslim
December 28, 2011, 02:42 PM
Not counting the SAA's in 44 special, I have 6 others. 2 each of the Taurus model 441, 1 M431, Original Charter Arms Bulldog with a 3" barrel, A smith M21 and finally an original hand ejector.

To say I like 44 special is an understatement. I don't own a Rossi and from what I have read, that is an oversight on my part.

I carry the 3" Taurus or the 3" Charter but when I hunt I carry the handejector.

Love em all

mdauben
December 28, 2011, 10:53 PM
they make made a 396 night guard.
Fixed that for you. :o

Unfortunately, the 396NG is both OOP and rapidly appreciating in price. The last one I saw (admittedly NIB) was going for well over $1000.

PS: they still make the 329 Nightguard, which of course can fire .44 Special. 29 oz, pricey.
Unfortunately, the 329 is a 6-shot, N frame revolver as opposed to the smaller and lighter 5-shot, L frame 396, making the 396 a much better choice for CCW.

waidmann
December 28, 2011, 11:52 PM
I have a 431 and a DAO Bulldog. I have formerly owned a DAO 720. The 431 is a bit bulky for some CCW but I like it. The Charter I favor for CCW. I don't want to run the Rossi down, I simply favor the others.

Fanky
December 29, 2011, 12:36 AM
I love my 2009 production Charter Bulldog. I barely even notice it in an IWB holster or in my coat pocket half the time. It may not be as fancy as some of the other options out there, but it's gone bang every time I've pulled the trigger and never had any malfunctions. My only gripe with it is it could use a bobbed hammer, but that's easy enough to change.

weregunner
December 29, 2011, 02:50 PM
Yep, gotta love Charters and the Tauri!

weregunner
December 29, 2011, 02:51 PM
I'll give S&W .44 Specials their due.

jad0110
December 30, 2011, 10:13 AM
I'd love to have a 696, but there prices are just out of sight these days. For that kind of money, I'd honestly rather have a 3.5" or 5" Model 27 that's been on my wish list for years.

But for $268, I do love my Taurus 431 3". I've got an IWB holster on order from FIST, so it will get added to my carry rotation pretty soon.


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Taurus%20Model%20431/DSC02339.jpg

weregunner
December 30, 2011, 10:37 AM
I'd love to have a 696, but there prices are just out of sight these days. For that kind of money, I'd honestly rather have a 3.5" or 5" Model 27 that's been on my wish list for years.

But for $268, I do love my Taurus 431 3". I've got an IWB holster on order from FIST, so it will get added to my carry rotation pretty soon.


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Taurus%20Model%20431/DSC02339.jpg
Nice pic!

That was partly my reasons for not getting the S&W was the price is out of sight.

voicomp
January 3, 2012, 10:06 PM
I wore out an old CA bobbed hammer, 2.5" bbl Bulldog Pug; it was well used when I got it and I shot it often for 15 years or so. I loved it. Also, kudos to CA for their effort to fix the unreliable cylinder rotation on something that was, basically, made by an ancient ancestor of the current corporation at no charge to me. Sadly the repair helped but didn't get me back to the total reliability I require in a carry piece. I haven't seen a new or used one in an LGS and haven't seen the new DAO 2.5 at a show for a reasonable enough price. I may have to go get lgs to order me one....

voicomp
January 3, 2012, 10:10 PM
Oh yeah... if you don't need a snubbie, can find one and have the bucks, the S&W Mod 21Thunder Ranch is a definite winner

BlackSky
January 4, 2012, 03:29 PM
Neither. Can't go wrong with the S&W 624 with 3" barrel.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/667/dsc06713g.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5275/dsc06722s.jpg

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