naa mini 22short loaded with aguila sniper subsonic 60gr ?


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ninja-jitsu
September 9, 2011, 10:07 PM
my idea is to cut half of a sss bullet to make it fit,but would cylnder be strong enough?

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Rail Driver
September 9, 2011, 10:11 PM
I don't think anyone here will advise you to fire ammunition in a gun that wasn't designed for it, and I don't recommend it myself.

That being said, if the firearm is built well enough to withstand the pressures it will shoot, but it will be much less accurate even than the gun is with the proper ammunition, and it will also wear at a much greater rate, eventually destroying the gun even if it works well for awhile.

Just get a gun chambered for the round you want to fire.

MCgunner
September 9, 2011, 10:17 PM
Buy the .22LR and your problems are solved. Or, buy a .22 mag Black Widow and you'll at least be able to hit something and it'll be a little more serious. :D I have several NAAs, love 'em! But, I don't have a .22 short, not really interested in something that'd bounce off a mouse. :rolleyes:

ninja-jitsu
September 9, 2011, 10:43 PM
22 short is so small you could hide it in a pair of speedos or step over it and hide in your shoe,if necessary

Rail Driver
September 9, 2011, 11:09 PM
22 short is so small you could hide it in a pair of speedos or step over it and hide in your shoe,if necessary

Something you need to understand when it comes to firearms, is that even though it might fit, it's probably not a good idea to use ammunition in a firearm that wasn't designed for that ammunition. Sure some guns do that (.38sp/.357) but you can't shoot .357 in a .38sp revolver, even if you trim them down to fit. Even though there's less powder, the same concept pretty much applies. Of course if your fingers and eyesight aren't important to you, by all means risk it.

Laplacian
September 10, 2011, 08:21 AM
Even if this was feasible, it probably wouldn't be worthwhile. The 60gr SS out of my 22LR mini keyholes past 3 ft. It won't stabilize out of the mini at all.

bigfatdave
September 10, 2011, 10:00 AM
Modifying factory ammo to fit a gun only marginally smaller than the gun the unmodified ammo would fit in

Huh? What's the point? The only thing the SSS has going for it is the big heavy bullet and low report, you're going to lighten and mangle the bullet and run it in the most noisy gun for size I know of ... do you have a big crate of SSS to use up, or something?

I think we have someone enamored of two extremes, with no concept of "the point of diminishing returns" when it comes to overspecialized guns or ammo.
The NAA .22short is not really much smaller than the .22lr model, it is a curiosity or a toy more than anything. And for that matter the .22mag frame isn't much bigger, either, although .22WMR is mostly louder, not faster, in that gun. (fun though, sort of a "noisy cricket" effect)
SSS ammo is spiffy and good in rifles for accurate, quiet shooting (not always available together) at moderate ranges ... it isn't a death ray and it isn't formulated to go in little bitty revolvers with large cylinder gaps. That being said, I do have a .22WMR/lr convertible NAA mini, and I'll try to remember to take it, the LR cylinder, and a box of SSS to the range next time.


Now, as far as cylinder strength, I'd assume it would be just as strong as the LR cylinder, but shorter. I'd also assume that a mangled SSS bullet might hang up and increase chamber pressures, making predictable/repeatable pressures hard to quantify. And I'd also guess that the nice folks at NAA would laugh at you for days around the coffeepot if you called and asked about your "chopped SSS in a NAA .22s gun" plan.

PapaG
September 10, 2011, 04:31 PM
the 22 SSS is a great idea with no way to make it work without rebarreling something with an extremely fast twist rate. I think one of our locals was barreling 10-22s with a one in six twist to stabilize them.

Out of a revolver, especially a mini, I'd expect keyholes....it should fit one chambered for LR.

ironhead7544
September 10, 2011, 05:27 PM
Interesting idea. You would have a 22 wadcutter. Pressure might be too high even though the bullet is lighter.

VA27
September 11, 2011, 02:18 AM
I've done the 'cut off a 22LR' trick in the 22 Short NAA. You won't hurt anything but the knife you use to cut the bullets with. I've done it with Yellow Jackets and PowerPoints, Lightning and GoldenBullet and I've even done it with SSS. In my experience it doesn't work well and just isn't worth the trouble. The lighter bullet doesn't provide enough resistance to get a good 'burn' with the extra powder.

While I haven't shot 'em over a chronograph, penetration with any cut down 22LR in a pine 1X4 wasn't as good as HiSpeed Remington shorts, solid or hollow point. The Remington shorts do seem to be a little hotter than the Winchester or CCI.

If you want to shoot the SSS with any success, you're gonna have to buy a LR model.

EmGeeGeorge
September 11, 2011, 12:05 PM
will they not sell you .22 short for some reason?

EmGeeGeorge
September 11, 2011, 12:07 PM
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=492

Uh, and if you cut a 60 grain bullet in half it is now a 30 grain bullet... right?

ninja-jitsu
September 11, 2011, 12:14 PM
thank you!

mainmech48
September 11, 2011, 12:20 PM
Cut that 60 gr. SSS bullet "in half" and whaddaya got?

Essentially, a .22 Short with a sorta half-a***d 30 gr. WC bullet over an incorrect charge of an inappropriate powder.

IMHO, why bother?

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