[Handi Man]

Ive recently picked up some 90 gr priv partizan hollow points(25-06) (velocity 3428fps) with some good penetretion (refrigerator door ) anyone have input on whether or not its good enough for deer hunting.

[wankerjake]

I'm not sure how fridge doors will match up with deer bodies but my best guess is that it will kill deer if hit reasonably well. I'd use 'em. Someone will always have a "better" load to recommend, but you put that bullet where it needs to go and you'll be fine.

[Handi Man]

yea id rather pay 15.99 for hollowpoints than 30 for cor-lokts

[35 Whelen]

Refrigerator doors and deer cause a bullet to behave very differently. Case in point: my 220 Swift running 50 gr. bullets at 3900 fps and 55 gr. bullets 3800 will penetrate both sides of piece of 2 3/8" oilfield pipe. But I can tell you from experience that neither will even come close to penetrating a whitetail shot broadside.

Is there some reason you're using 90 gr. hollowpoints? With the exception of controlled expansion bullets, most .257 caliber bullets under 100 gr. are varmint bullets and really may be too lightly constructed for deer.
You sort of out of the blue mention an apparent disdain for Remington Core-Lokt bullets. Have you had a bad experience with them? I handloaded them in my 257 Ackley Improved (essentially a ballisitc twin the the 25-06) and they worked very well on the deer and hogs I shot. In fact I recovered one that broke a deers shoulder and still had a retained weight of 60 grs. which is great for a cup and core bullet.

35W

[41 Mag]

There have only been two hollow points I had any faith with for the 25-06, one was the Barnes, and the other was the Hornady 120gr.

To be quite honest, before I put them to task on a deer I would try my darnedest to find a feral hog to try them on first. If they hold up on them with out blowing a big nasty hole, your in business.

I have seen plenty of bullets penetrate stuff like your test media which did pretty poor job on soft tissue.

Not saying it won't work, just saying I would wring it out a bit more than the one particular test. Maybe soak up a 2' stack of newspaper for a few days then put one through it just to see how it holds up. You might have a different opinion of them then.

[gamestalker]

It will get the job done, but it is going to likely destroy a good deal of tasty meat.

[Handi Man]

thanks by the way i have no problem with cor-lokts although my partizan are half price and group just as well i guess ill just set it up with 120 gr cor-lokt

[Nico Testosteros]

I'd second that expansion, or lack of, may be an issue with Prvi hollowpoints. If they are just Like FMJ with the nose cut off they may not expand too well. I know their pistol bullets are like that.

Then again, a heart shot with FMJ will work.

[Gunnerboy]

Its all shot placement. Even a 22short properly placed will kill a deer.

[788Ham]

Hollow points to shoot deer? WHEW, don't hit them in the front shoulder, won't be anything but stew meat if you do! The Core-Loc bullets have been around for ages, you're better off with these, won't tear things up.

[.45Guy]

Hollow points to shoot deer? WHEW, don't hit them in the front shoulder, won't be anything but stew meat if you do! The Core-Loc bullets have been around for ages, you're better off with these, won't tear things up.
Core-lokts in the ham are no better. I once put a 130 grain .270 a little too far forward through the ham, and it looked like I killed that poor doe with a hand grenade. Hit dense muscle and bone with any high velocity expanding bullet, and things get ugly. Take your time and pick your shot. Put that little 90 grainer behind the shoulder through the lungs, and all will be well.

[Handi Man]

thanks for the post .45 Guy with a 4-16x40 tasco a well placed shot at 150 yards should be no problem

[.45Guy]

No problem Handi, we used to load 110 grain hollow points over 4895 in '06 to fill nuisance tags. If you can place your shot behind the shoulder, lighter bullets pay off. I don't know how many times I've had a .30-30 poke a nice clean hole through both sides with no expansion.

[Handi Man]

every deer ive ever killed was with 150gr 30-30 cor-lokts and have only had my 25-06 since january and have yet to experiment on it much

[scythefwd]

handi - they are on sale for 9.99 at bass pro when the 2$ mail in rebate.

[.45Guy]

Trust me, at the ranges you've mentioned the difference will be astounding.

[303tom]

Yep I shoot lots of em, I think they will kill deer just fine !

[Handi Man]

scythefwd i wish i lived near nashville to get in on that deal although a 4 hour drive is a little much on gas money whan i can order them from midway usa

[scythefwd]

handi - you might be able to order them from bass pro. The rebate, I bet is a remington rebate that is most likely downloadable via the web.

[Handi Man]

i looked bass pro didnt have them on the website

[scythefwd]

http://remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/rebates-and-promotions/Fall2011-FirearmsAmmo-Rebate.aspx

Linky to the rebate form.. Up to 5$ off... probably requires 3 boxes... find em as cheap as you can. 2$ off per box usually.

[.45Guy]

AIM Surplus has it on sale for 13.50 a box. Slightly cheaper, and they're just across the river.

[scythefwd]

sorry - I was talking about the .30-30

[Handi Man]

there is an over abundance of that around here

[scythefwd]

The discount is for any core-lokt ammo. I was thinking the 9.99 a box .30-30 though when I posted about bass pro.

[castingdonkey]

I think the round that you are mentioning would drop an elk with no problem. So long as you shoot well and broadside neck or vitals. I myself do not like remington projectiles. I shot a bull elk quartered away and spent a lot of time tracking the poor thing when I finally got him down the remington core lokt .277 150gr bulllet had turned to splatter when it hit the shoulder blade. I found the empty jacket of the round smashed into the broken shoulder blade. Now all I shoot at big game animals bear, elk, and deer are Barnes .277 130 gr. mrx and tsx. I haven't tried the ttsx yet but I would suppose that it would expand better on longer range shots. Barnes are pricey even to reload but worth every cent. It would have at least tore the shoulder off that elk.

[41 Mag]

If your concerned about the 120gr CL during a high velocity impact with a shoulder I wouldn't be. While this is only one example, I highly doubt you will get the impact velocity this one was running at from a standard factory load, unless your barrel is against the side of the deer. I have not found a better test of a bullets integrity than putting them to task on one of the bigger hogs.

These pics are from a 250+ pound feral boar I shot using the Rem 120gr CL out of my 25-06 AI. Muzzle velocity is right around 3350 from the 28" barrel. It hit the onside shoulder plate which was around 1.5" thick, traveled through the lungs, the offside shoulder, and stopped just under the offside shoulder plate. I cannot say that any other standard cup and core type bullet would have held up as well,

120gr CL, muzzle velocity of 3350fps, impact on hog roughly 3000fps at approx 110yds,
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Hunting%202010/P3060084.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Hunting%202010/P3060085.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Hunting%202010/P3060083.jpg

You can clearly see the gristle plate defined under the hide on this bruiser,
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Hunting%202010/P3060079.jpg

This is the onside damage under the shoulder. which was WAY less than I was expecting based upon the velocity. The shoulder hardly had more than a 1" hole through it.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Hunting%202010/P3060080.jpg

This is the underside of the offside shoulder, the bullet penetrated the shoulder blade and stopped right against the gristle plate. Similar to the onside shoulder, this one only had about a 1" hole through it as well.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Hunting%202010/P3060082.jpg

To be completely honest, I tried my best to put the bullet through what I thought would be the toughest live test available. I sincerely thought it would have exploded upon impact, blowing a huge gaping nasty hole just up under the hide. To say that I was pleased with the results would be an understatement, as I know know for certain that any whitetail will be icing on the cake. I built this particular rifle specifically for long range hog control. I have some, and planned on using a 130gr Wildcat Custom bullet in this rifle exclusively, but at this point they are no longer available so the 120gr Remington will fill the slot just fine.

[HarcyPervin]

Its all shot placement. Even a 22short properly placed will kill a deer.

Why is this, or something to this effect mentioned in every thread regarding performance of any particular bullet? Can we as a group agree that a .22 will kill a deer and be done with that stellar piece of knowledge? As far as what you're asking about, seems like it'll work, if all you want is dead. I think the corelokts will perform a little better for you. You'll just have to ask yourself if the game you're taking and the meat you'll be harvesting is worth investing the extra few cents per shot. Hopefully you're not emptying all 20 rounds on each kill, take a box or two to get your gun sighted in and figure a few more a year to keep your skill sharp. Assuming that this is mainly a hunting gun, I don't think that you'll need to worry too much about the added cost of shooting a better round for the given task.

[.45Guy]

41, did you clip the scapula on that shot?

[41 Mag]

41, did you clip the scapula on that shot?

Yes, on both sides.

The onside picture of the hog in the bucket is the entrance. The shot was downhill at a pretty steep angle, more so than I thought. The shot was a bit rushed as I had to get the long barreled rifle out of the truck, chamber a round, acquire him in the scope, all the while he was covering a LOT of ground fast. In fact I actually thought I missed him as he hit the dirt so fast.

The shot went in high on his right side and stopped about in the middle of his left shoulder just after passing through the scapula, and just under the gristle shield.

[retrieverman]

In my experience from years on hunting message boards, people tend to overthink the ammo they use for deer hunting. Deer aren't that hard to kill, and if it can be done with a bow and arrow, a well placed shot with even a halfway decent bullet should certainly do the trick.

I have never used the bullet in question, but I have shot plenty of PRVI bullets in other calibers and had great luck.

[Daniel]

Light and fast hollow points generally aren't the best for large game in my experience. They often won't penetrate much in "soft" medium, as they use their energy in expanding [and fragmenting] greatly.

I like your basic JSPs better. They expand, but they also penetrate deeply.

[Handi Man]

the thing about these hollow points are they are kinda like an fmj with a hole drilled in

[Handi Man]

no i will not deer hunt with this ammunition i finally made a kill with it on a old whistle pig at 110 yards with it .25 cal hole on 1 side and an 8 inch disemboweling hole on the other. Moral of the story if it doesnt react with a bottle of water or a fridge door it might be different with soft tissue 120 gr cor-lokts here i come.

[41 Mag]

If you can find them in your area, you might also give the Federal Power Shok in 117gr a try. It's loaded with the Speer Hot Core bullet. I have been using them in .308 for a couple of years, the price has been better than Remington at several places I have found them. They shoot good and I have had no issues with stopping anything I put them on.

Just another option.

[Handi Man]

thanks 41 mag might give em a try

[Kachok]

I have not used the 25-06 HPs but before I started handloading I used 139gr Prvi SPs in my 6.5x55 with solid results. Expanded very quick and never failed to make it through and through. Though I have heard some 308 guys gripe about lack of expansion, so test them on a yote first before you bet your hunting season on them :)