Bullet seated to deep


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MoreIsLess
September 13, 2011, 11:08 AM
I have some cases that are primed but I seated the bullet to deep. How can I re-use the case/bullet. I didn't know if it is safe or not to "hammer" it with a kinetic bullet puller since there is a live primer in the case.

Am I being overly cautious. I'm new to this,as you can tell.

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snuffy
September 13, 2011, 11:21 AM
Bullet seated to deep
I have some cases that are primed but I seated the bullet to deep. How can I re-use the case/bullet. I didn't know if it is safe or not to "hammer" it with a kinetic bullet puller since there is a live primer in the case.

Am I being overly cautious. I'm new to this,as you can tell.

Huh? You seated bullets in primed cases with no powder, then seated them too deep?:confused:

Your hammer type bullet puller is made to be used exactly as you mentioned, to move or re-move bullets in loaded ammo. There is NO danger in doing so.

T Bran
September 13, 2011, 11:28 AM
I just used my kinetic hammer to break down 100 old mil 30-06 to recover the brass with out having to fire them. It is made to do just that safely. To ensure that you dont damage the bullets put a small piece of foam rubber in the bottom of hte hammer.
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MoreIsLess
September 13, 2011, 11:44 AM
Huh? You seated bullets in primed cases with no powder, then seated them too deep?

Yes, they have powder in them, I just didn't specify that. I was mainly concerned with whether or not the primers would discharge

StandingTall
September 13, 2011, 12:27 PM
I didn't know if it is safe or not to "hammer" it with a kinetic bullet puller since there is a live primer in the case.

Yup, you can do it all day long....just make sure you're striking it on the correct end. :D

James2
September 13, 2011, 12:53 PM
Bullet too deep? How much too deep? Unless you are considerably too deep, and/or your load is close to max, they may be just fine to shoot. Yes, seating deeper increases pressure.

What caliber? What gun? What load? Some calibers are more forgiving than others.

As said, use the hammer puller. Not a problem.

Josh45
September 13, 2011, 02:36 PM
Use the bullet puller. It won't discharge. I had to remove a .357 bullet with a load in it with a live primer and nothing went bang. Also had to do it to about 37 pieces of .40 S&W and none went bang.

Just use it correctly and all is well. And yes, You can use the bullet again if it is not deformed. Yes, You can use the case again. Yes, You can use the powder as long as you don't touch it with your hands.

Tom488
September 13, 2011, 02:54 PM
Yep... kinetic puller is fine. HOWEVER: don't do what a buddy of mine did... I put a round in the puller, handed it to him, and told him to give it a few good whacks on the ground.

Well, he took me literally, and smacked it HARD three times, really fast. The problem was, the bullet unseated on the second whack. So, on the upswing the third time, the bullet flew backwards in the puller, busted the cap on the puller, sent the case flying upwards, spraying powder out, slammed into <something> on the ceiling, and detonated the primer.

I kid you not...

No damage done (well, except he killed my bullet puller), but scared the ever-lovin' snot out of the both of us.

So, take it easy with the puller, especially the upswing, and pay attention so you know when the bullet falls out.

ranger335v
September 13, 2011, 03:45 PM
" I was mainly concerned with whether or not the primers would discharge"

It's rare anyone will be pulling bullets from a case with a fired primer; use the puller.

beatledog7
September 13, 2011, 04:11 PM
General hammer pulling tips learned from experience:

Tighten the cap. Really, tighten it. Rap the hammer on a hard surface that's mildly cushioned. I use the concrete floor of my laundry room cushioned by a flattened cereal (or similar) box. This will stand up to repeated use and lets you avoid striking the concrete directly. Strike gently, then a little harder, and so on. You can usually see through the hammer well enough to detect whether the bullet is moving. If it is, you're striking hard enough and just need to continue with that much force until you hear the bullet rattle loose in the head of the hammer. The key is not to strike harder than you have to.

Once the bullet is out, remove the cap and see if you can get the bullet to fall out of the hammer without pouring out the powder. Sometimes this is possible, sometimes not. If they will only come out together you'll of course have to separate them later.

Anytime you pull bullets from ammo with unknown powder, that powder should not be reused for ammo. It's fertilizer.

steve4102
September 13, 2011, 04:55 PM
What do you mean by "too deep". Is this a pistol or a rifle cartridge?

In straight walled pistol rounds seating to deep can increase pressure. If this is a bottle necked rifle round then not so much. In fact seating deeper in rifle rounds decreases pressure. The farther from the lands the less the pressure.

BYJO4
September 13, 2011, 05:03 PM
A kinetic bullet puller will take care of your problem and is safe to use on loaded ammo. Every reloader for one reason or another has to pull bullets. This is a must have item for the loading bench.

gamestalker
September 13, 2011, 05:50 PM
Not a problem. Those pullers are intended to pull bullets from a live round. The trick to this, as I and other's have reiterated multiple times, is to smack them hard on a very solid surface, steel or concrete, wood isn't solid enough and absorbs too much of the kinetic energy needed to accomplish this effectively. I've pulled stout crimped handgun rounds with no more than 3 smacks on a solid surface. Don't be affraid of them detonating, the manufacturer's of kinetic pullers wouldn't even make the product if it was a risky process and primers are designed to be completely stable unless the face is dented sufficently as we are well aware of when we inadvertantly don't seat them deep enough to allow for a deep dent.
Last night a bumped some live 7mm RM mags rounds up a bit because I acidentally seated to specs. for a different bullet of the same weight, which gave me more jump to the lands than I desire.
But of course good safety rules still apply, wear your safety goggles to prevent any chips or fragments that may dislodge from the surface your hitting or the puller from entering your eye.

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