Cheap but reliable 9mm platform?


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Atom Smasher
September 13, 2011, 09:14 PM
The gun fund is low. Very low, in fact, under $400. The question is, do I wait and save a little more and pick up a quality 9mm, or do I pick up a pistol for plinking now? I have a Sig 220 in .45ACP, but it's a little pricey to shoot every weekend. While 9mm isn't as cheap as .22LR, it's still got the punch I want in a gun plus I can still use it for carry/IDPA events. So, recommendations? There are a half-million "Recommend a 9mm!" threads here on THR, but I feel that most focus more on other, more important (imo) factors such as accuracy, mechanical durability/reliability, or aesthetic value than hitting a particular price point.

I agree that buying a weapon based on a desired price point isn't the best way to go about it, but however that's where I am right now. I have .22LR pistols, I have the .45ACP, but now I want a 9mm. THR dudes (and dudettes), what are your favorite, relatively inexpensive, reliable handguns? Are there brands to avoid at the $400?

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Skribs
September 13, 2011, 09:18 PM
Well if it's money you're looking to save, you're going to through ~3000 rounds to make the difference (judging by the price of WWB bulk ammo). But hey, another gun is always fun!

I'm a fan of the XD platform, but you'd need to save up a bit ($529 for the standard size 9mm).

Mr.Blue
September 13, 2011, 09:19 PM
IMHO - save a little more and get a CZ 75B. You should be able to get one for $450-$475. It is all steel and the most accurate 9mm out there. Do some research and you'll see how well thought of they are. It can be used for target work, home protection, and competition.

The Sarge
September 13, 2011, 09:21 PM
Under $400 9mm
Stoeger Cougar (Beretta) 8000 A++
Bersa UC 9mm A++
Ruger P95 A
Kel Tec P-11 B
Kel Tec PF9 C

Atom Smasher
September 13, 2011, 09:21 PM
I suppose I should elaborate- I know that 9mm isn't MUCH cheaper, but hey I need a justification for spending more gun money :p

I'm a big dude, so no need to focus on compact weapons (although they aren't by any means ruled out), and I absolutely prefer an autoloader instead of a revolver, especially if I'm going to be (potentially) carrying this as a defense weapon.

Telekinesis
September 13, 2011, 09:26 PM
I actually bought a like new Glock 17 (and I mean brand new) for $400 last week. I'd probably stick with a G19 if you're planning on carrying it though. Sig P6s should be under $400 too, though they're single stacks.

If you're able to stretch your budget a bit more, some of the older W.German Sigs usually hover around $500. They're not new by any means, but a lot of the ones I've come across were fired very little and are still in good shape.

jleyring
September 13, 2011, 09:30 PM
I just got the Sig SP2022. It is right around $400 and so far it shoots great. It was there first polymer frame. It is Sig so it is quality of course. The only draw back is that it only came with 1 mag.

Zone15
September 13, 2011, 09:32 PM
Academy Sports has the SIG SP2022 for $399.

chris in va
September 13, 2011, 09:36 PM
My CZ 75BD has been an amazing tool for our local IDPA events. The Sig 220 I had didn't work for me in the matches, so I sold it.

Our local shop has the 75's for $495. Gotta scrape together another hundred man!

marine 97-03
September 13, 2011, 10:29 PM
S/W sd9 or sig p250

Sky
September 13, 2011, 10:36 PM
How about a $700+ gun for $299. Centerfire systems has 5906 gen 3 S&W police trade-ins. If to big or heavy they have the 6906 for $329. Several here at THR have purchased them.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=600316

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=578808

ET
September 13, 2011, 10:36 PM
Another vote for the S&W SD9.

sigarms228
September 13, 2011, 11:12 PM
I just got the Sig SP2022. It is right around $400 and so far it shoots great. It was there first polymer frame. It is Sig so it is quality of course. The only draw back is that it only came with 1 mag.
I agree with this the SP2022 is a fantastic pistol regardless of price. Mine has not had a single issue in just over 1000 rounds now, great trigger, and excellent accuracy.

marine 97-03
September 14, 2011, 12:00 AM
Sig p 250

JROC
September 14, 2011, 12:08 AM
For a new gun under $400 IMO the best choice by far is a Ruger SR9. Not unless you can find a good deal on maybe a slightly used police issued gun or something. Not long a go a store localed in the Carolina's called Lawmens was selling new M&P for I believe something like $398. I bought my CZ 75 Pre-B for $329 and it's a great gun. Its a old Czech police issued surplus gun.

REAPER4206969
September 14, 2011, 12:10 AM
There are all sorts of sub $400 pistols that are nice.

winchester '97
September 14, 2011, 12:10 AM
I got a FEG Hi Power that is an exact enough copy to take browning parts for 320$ OTD, shoots one hole groups and doesn't jam. I have also heard great things about The Star Model B pistols, and Star handguns in general, Also check out the Tanfoglio CZ-75 builds on Gunbroker.

towboat_er
September 14, 2011, 12:10 AM
Another vote for the 5906.
FEG Hi Power is another good choice.

JPG19
September 14, 2011, 12:12 AM
If I were you, I'd save for a bit longer and get a Gen3 Glock 19. I'm extremely pleased with mine and, provided that it is comfortable in your hand, think that you will be as well.

marine 97-03
September 14, 2011, 12:13 AM
The sr9c will also take the Sr9, full size mags

bjs1187
September 14, 2011, 12:20 AM
I got a new mp9 for 425

Hossfly68
September 14, 2011, 12:24 AM
For $400 you can buy a whole set of Hi Point pistols! :evil:

I bought my .45 Witness for $300 and have seen a bunch for $400 and less. Act fast though. People are starting to realize how good they are and the prices will go up. I've been looking at 9mm's lately also. My heart is set on the CZ-2075, but I'm stuck in decision mode...

RC20
September 14, 2011, 12:42 AM
Sig SP2022 at Nelson Tactical for $379

It has all the traditional Sig quality at a reasonable price, accurate, reliable and handles very well.

ugaarguy
September 14, 2011, 12:55 AM
There are lots of mechanically sound police trade in Glocks & S&Ws with anywhere from lots of finish wear, to almost like new. I'm not even a Glock fan, but they're good guns, and the LE trade ins are a great value.

cfrench
September 14, 2011, 12:58 AM
i just bought a new kahr cw9 otd for 411.00. very concealable.

Ogham
September 14, 2011, 01:04 AM
SW sigma
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/13283

ruger
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/18161

taurus
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/19794
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/17284

sw model sd
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/69241

45bthompson
September 14, 2011, 01:06 AM
If your ok with used try to find a police trade in Glock. If you want new I'd go with the Stoeger Cougar. I bought one cause I always loved the beretta and it turned out to be a great pistol.

daytodaze
September 14, 2011, 02:15 AM
When you factor in used guns, there are definitely some great options for you to choose from.

Shadow 7D
September 14, 2011, 03:35 AM
shhooooot
you can buy a used hi-point or even a ring of fire gun
I'd go with the Hi-Point as they DO have a lifetime warranty and a reputation for reliability.

otomik
September 14, 2011, 03:42 AM
Under $400 9mm
Stoeger Cougar (Beretta) 8000 A++
Bersa UC 9mm A++
Ruger P95 A
Kel Tec P-11 B
Kel Tec PF9 C

Correct sir. Those top three are it. The keltecs are a more specific role.

Ro1911
September 14, 2011, 04:46 AM
Keltec pf-9

If your carrying concealed on a budget this is it.

kozak6
September 14, 2011, 05:25 AM
You should be able to track down a Ruger P-series in 9mm pretty cheap.

The P85, P89, P93, and P94 have aluminum frames, while the P95 has a plastic frame.

bdb benzino
September 14, 2011, 05:50 AM
I have 2 excellent pistols that fit in this category, a Kahr CW9 ($410) and a S&W SD9 ($390). Both have been totally reliable and shoot great. I also had the Bersa UC pro 9 and it was also perfect in function and accurate.

group17
September 14, 2011, 02:32 PM
For $400 I have found slightly used.
Glock 27
Walther PPS
Walther P99c
CZ 75P-01
NIB Stoeger 8000
All better IMO than saving for a new more expensive gun.

Chris7129
September 14, 2011, 03:01 PM
I purchased a used P 89 about 3 weeks ago for $275.00 in the stainless version. I am a big guy, and really like the larger grip. I have been highly impressed with this ole' gun thus far. Good luck in your search.

gunsablazin
September 14, 2011, 03:06 PM
I don't own 9mm of any sort, but if I wanted one, I'd get a Glock 19. They are cheap and probably as reliable as a pistol can be.

Dr_2_B
September 14, 2011, 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by The Sarge View Post
Under $400 9mm
Stoeger Cougar (Beretta) 8000 A++
Bersa UC 9mm A++
Ruger P95 A
Kel Tec P-11 B
Kel Tec PF9 C

I agree with Otomik, but I'd rate both the Kel-Tecs as B. If I were in your position, I'd probably get the Stoeger. In fact, I'm not in your position, and I'd still like to get me a Stoeger.

wvshooter
September 15, 2011, 12:12 AM
IMHO - save a little more and get a CZ 75B. You should be able to get one for $450-$475. It is all steel and the most accurate 9mm out there. Do some research and you'll see how well thought of they are. It can be used for target work, home protection, and competition.

I bought one of these new about three years ago and paid about $550. If it's not the best 9mm handgun out there it's certainly in the top three. Extremely shootable. Extremely accurate. Feels like it's molded to your hand. Perfect choice for IDPA. I have carried mine some. It rides comfortably in a Crossbreed or Comp-tac holster. Also available in a compact version which has a shorter barrel to make carry a little easier.

I'm also partial to the classic Sigs. Summit Gun Broker is a good place to shop for a Sig.

RinkRat
September 15, 2011, 01:04 AM
bought a g26 NIB $475. at the local gun shop down the block

tax, tag, title $509. out the door

if you buy online you sometimes have to add shipping, always a transfer fee, and of course the BG check, and *maybe* some sort of local tax

so figuring into the OP question save-up another $75 bucks and get a Block G26, you will not have any remorse or feelings of disappointment over buying it and the kool aid tastes great !!

WinThePennant
September 15, 2011, 01:07 AM
Sig P250
Sig SP2022

I've also heard good things about the S&W SD9.

9mmforMe
September 15, 2011, 05:52 AM
P95, a good holster and a box or two of ammo and your at $400.00.

BRE346
September 15, 2011, 03:42 PM
I've made Taurus and Sigma guns work very well.

thedriver101
September 15, 2011, 05:17 PM
Not really *under* $400, but it's usually pretty close if you shop around:

Glock 17/19 (best price I've found is around $450, maybe I'm not looking hard enough)

Thing shoots ok, conceals very well imho. Personally don't like the trigger (but this coming from a 1911 guy), so you may or may not enjoy it. Boring reliability is a plus though.

Don't forget, mags and parts are a dime a dozen for Glocks also. Not that you'd need spare parts anyways...

Carp
September 15, 2011, 05:51 PM
Stoeger Cougar without hesitation. Built tough. Reliable. Digests any 9mm I feed it. Easy to disassemble/reassemble. ALL for under $400!

Carp

wally
September 15, 2011, 10:22 PM
S&W Sigma VE is under $300 and is very reliable. Trigger is definitely not match grade but is servicable. If you are coming from a 1911 the Sigma trigger is really bad, but if coming from a stock DA revolver its not so bad, just a bit heavy.

Mike1234567
September 15, 2011, 10:29 PM
Let's assume you buy a 9mm for exactly $400 OTD...

How much do you intend to shoot? Cheap 9mm ball ammo is about 22 cents per round and .45 ACP is about 33 cents per round. So, if you shoot 9mm, this saves approximately 11 cents per round.

You'd have to shoot 3636 rounds to break even on your gun purchase. Are you planning on shooting more than this much? Some people do and some don't. The point is, if this is all about saving money then there's the math.:)

ETA: If this is more about WANTING a 9mm then I'd hesitate recommending that you buy now or wait. I'd have trouble with that decision too. But... what I'd buy is only $100 higher than your budget. If I was deciding for myself I'd save that $100 extra and buy the $500 gun.

VJ
September 15, 2011, 10:31 PM
$9.80 (http://www.amazon.com/Barnett-17018-Black-Widow-Slingshot/dp/B000PWBIKY)... takes a bit to learn how to aim, but there are zero documented instances of fail to feed, whisper quiet operation, and it fires the whole cartridge which increases efficiency by some huge impressive percentage.

Thorgrim
September 15, 2011, 10:50 PM
Were it me, I'd look for a decent Walther P-38. I've only shot one of them, but it was very accurate and tons of fun to shoot. Given the thin barrel, I think it would carry concealed very nicely as a bonus. Not long ago I saw some for sale at one of the usual suspects' online stores (sorry, I didn't make note of it) at a very nice price, IIRC around $300.

wlewisiii
September 15, 2011, 11:03 PM
Ruger P95. Inexpensive, durable, reliable service automatic; very high bang for buck value. I like the stainless with decocker version best.

miles1
September 16, 2011, 07:59 PM
Another vote for the ruger P95...built to last.

Heard good things about the sig 250 and CZ Duty as well.

USAF_Vet
September 16, 2011, 08:08 PM
I picked up my S&W 469 (2nd gen auto wondernine) for $250. There are a lot of nice guns out there if you're willing to consider used.

Byrd666
September 16, 2011, 09:07 PM
I response to Atom Smasher and the original question, I picked a Bersa Thunder 9 UC for under $400. Fits my fairly large hand quite well and the takedown on it is super simple as well reliable in over 500 rounds so far.

http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-9-and-45-uc-pro-series.html

I'll also recommend the Ruger SR9 full size. Though it does cost another 100 bucks or so compared to the Bersa. The Ruger almost feels like a full size 1911 but with a 17 round hi cap mag. It has so far, 250 rounds, performed way beyond my expectations without a single foul using a varying amount of ammunition and weights. I believe you also stated "no plastic", or real close to that. I felt the same way for years but, I gotta tell ya, Ruger did it Right.

From what I hear, the Kel-Tecs are great lil' guns too. And cheap to boot

To those that recommend the Stoeger Cougar and just for your information, I HAD a Cougar, stress the had again. I have never had a bigger piece of (censored) in my hand in all my life. I'm on the north side of 45 too. Bought it brand new and was never able to fire more than three (3) round through it total. First clip, first round, fte. Second clip first round, ftf followed by a fte. One more attempt with reloaded clip and quick clean of weapon. First round, perfect. Second round, fte, cleared after a minute or two. Last and final round was the perfect stovepipe after third round went out. Sent back to factory and they replaced the pistol in about three weeks. "Not to bad" I'm thinkin'. Take Brand Newly Replaced pistol to range with WWB 115 grain ball, third round was ANOTHER failure to eject. Sold it as soon as I could find a fool to buy it.

I know there's a bad one in every bunch but, Two in a row? Ya'll can keep those if they work for ya', Definitely NOT for me again.

Mike1234567
September 16, 2011, 09:14 PM
^^^ Can you get an SR9 or SR9c for $400 delivered? If so, then I'd agree with that recommendation. The K-T's are quite reliable for the price but the SR9/SR9c are truly very nice... a good leap beyond the K-T for sure.

Byrd666
September 16, 2011, 10:09 PM
Mike - See link

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/52387

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/62288

triplebike
September 16, 2011, 11:16 PM
Stoeger Cougar is IMHO the best NIB value available on the market right now. The Ruger P95 is a close 2nd.

akar80
September 17, 2011, 12:28 AM
You can get a excellent Bersa 9mm in either their HC 17+ round model, or the 9uc compact 13+1 for about $400. Both are excellent pistols, under rated, but a great buy for the money. See the Bersa Catalog, and also Bersa Chat, for feed back by Bersa owners.

lechiffre
September 17, 2011, 04:06 AM
Stoeger Couger

Sig/Sauer 2022

Walther P-1 (surplus)

triplebike
September 17, 2011, 08:04 PM
You can get a excellent Bersa 9mm in either their HC 17+ round model, or the 9uc compact 13+1 for about $400. Both are excellent pistols, under rated, but a great buy for the money. See the Bersa Catalog, and also Bersa Chat, for feed back by Bersa owners.
I agree with your post. I am considering the Bersa 9mm. I have only read & heard nothing but positive comments about them.

RickP
September 17, 2011, 10:25 PM
I have a Ruger P95DC that's very reliable,easy to take down and clean,and it puts the holes pretty close together in the paper on a regular basis.I've put over a thousand rounds through it and it seems to get better with use. You could probably find one for short money without too much effort,as there are quite a few out there.

DenaliPark
September 17, 2011, 11:22 PM
The gun fund is low. Very low, in fact, under $400. The question is, do I wait and save a little more and pick up a quality 9mm, or do I pick up a pistol for plinking now? I have a Sig 220 in .45ACP, but it's a little pricey to shoot every weekend. While 9mm isn't as cheap as .22LR, it's still got the punch I want in a gun plus I can still use it for carry/IDPA events. So, recommendations? There are a half-million "Recommend a 9mm!" threads here on THR, but I feel that most focus more on other, more important (imo) factors such as accuracy, mechanical durability/reliability, or aesthetic value than hitting a particular price point.

I agree that buying a weapon based on a desired price point isn't the best way to go about it, but however that's where I am right now. I have .22LR pistols, I have the .45ACP, but now I want a 9mm. THR dudes (and dudettes), what are your favorite, relatively inexpensive, reliable handguns? Are there brands to avoid at the $400?
I could care less what you do, however if it was me, I'd not waste my money on any of the sub-four hundred dollar fodder you're likely too! I'd hold out and buy a Glock-17/19/26 which can be had NIB from Buds for $499.00....

Dirty Bob
September 17, 2011, 11:46 PM
The best deals are in the used market. Lots of good 9mm pistols with "low mileage" are available in your price range. I've seen SIGs, Rugers, and S&Ws that would provide very good service. I would avoid new pistols of lower quality and go with the ones you know to be reliable, only in used form. Used pistols often have nothing more wrong with them beyond a scratch or two and/or some minor bluing wear.

On the other hand, if you save a bit more money, you could get into a higher class of pistol. I've seen almost-new CZ 75s for under $500. That is a very fine handgun and a bargain at that price, IMHO.

All my best,
Dirty Bob

bdb benzino
September 18, 2011, 12:22 AM
however if it was me, I'd not waste my money on any of the sub-four hundred dollar fodder you're likely too! I'd hold out and buy a Glock-17/19/26 which can be had NIB from Buds for $499.00....

Funny, I am the opposite. I would rather have a Bersa, S&W SD, or a few others under $400 all day before a Glock! They just do not fit my hand, or a bunch of other peoples as well for that matter. IMHO the S&W SD is more gun for the $, steel sights, front night sight, larger useable slide stop, "correct" ergos. YMMV.

jackpinesavages
September 18, 2011, 12:45 AM
LEO turn ins: G17 or G19.

tnek13
September 18, 2011, 12:57 AM
Glock 19 - I found one used at a gun show with night sights for $425 that looked like it was never shot.- reliable shots better than I do. The fun is in the search - look around and you will be surprised at what you can find for round $400. I prefer my Kahr K9 Elite, but they don't show up used in your price range, but as I said looking is all the fun.

bestseller92
September 18, 2011, 03:11 AM
Ruger P95.

catnphx
September 18, 2011, 10:59 AM
Take that budget up $25-$50 (to $425-$450) and you can add several to the list, including Kahr CW9 and M&P 9.

Good luck!!

nearmiss
September 18, 2011, 02:09 PM
FM was licensed by FN to build Hi powers and is as close as you are going to get to the real thing without the real price tag, and should fit in your budget.

CZs are a pretty good bargain, I have a 75 compact that is reliable, comfortable, and very accurate.

I once looked at a Bersa and was impressed. I didn't buy it but haven't ruled one out yet.

Pilot
September 18, 2011, 02:52 PM
CZ P-07's are $400. Used G19 can also be had around that price, but my money would be with, and is with the CZ.

308win
September 18, 2011, 04:26 PM
Look around and you should still find S&W 59XXs and 69XXs for around $400. You can't go wrong with either.

lightningsloth11
September 18, 2011, 04:36 PM
Got a NIB Springfield XD 9 service model (4" barrel) for $419 at a local gunshow last weekend. Fun and cheap to shoot. I was carrying Colt Combat Commander, but the blued finish is not the most ideal for South Florida in the summer time (my sweat is like alien blood). Took me a little getting used to a double action trigger again, but I love shooting it. Also it feels significantly lighter IWB. 500 rds through it in the past week, great pistol.

With Springfield pushing the XDm more you can find several good deals for the original XD series.

mkvtaco
September 30, 2011, 08:15 PM
one of the s&ws mentioned, Sig Sig Pro 2022, FNP/FNX9, SR9, Glock

Wishoot
September 30, 2011, 09:01 PM
There are so many good, inexpensive 9mm options, new and used out there, it's not even funny.

I have plenty of 9's right now (Browning Hi Power, CZ75B and CZ Phantom), but if I were in the market, I would probably pick up a used S&W 5906.

Maple_City_Woodsman
September 30, 2011, 09:39 PM
Stoeger, Bersa, and Ruger would be the three I would focus on most. Which one I chose would depend on what kind of safety i like - slide safety, frame safety, and slide decocker respectively.

MCgunner
September 30, 2011, 10:14 PM
Ruger P95

Girodin
September 30, 2011, 11:50 PM
CW 9s are $350 at my LGS. I see used glocks regularly for $400 and even bought one for a good deal less.

Ones I didn't notice mentioned when I quickly scanned this thread include The sig P6. RIA 9mm. Hi power clones. A used steyr. My LGS has a Steyr S9 for $400. I've seen a NIB older M40A1 for $400, and a M9 for eve less. That S9 is really tempting me. I think I like my Steyr more than my Sig, glocks, Kahr, etc.

Ben86
October 1, 2011, 12:32 AM
I think a used S&W M&P pistol would be a better deal than a new sub $400 gun.

That said there are a lot of good, new guns you can get for $400 and under. Look at the Taurus line, Kahr cw line, S&W SD, Ruger (I even see SR9s for $400 sometimes), just to name a few. The Sig 2022 for $400 is also a great buy. I had to keep myself from getting one the last time they were at Academy for $399. That's a great gun for that price.

stchman
October 1, 2011, 12:40 AM
Reliable 9mm for <= $400.

Ruger P95
Ruger SR9
Sig Sauer SP2022
S&W SD9

hardknocks!
October 1, 2011, 10:13 AM
hello
picked up a s&w 908 for 340.00$ that looked unfired.
used of course. hard to find anyone having problems with the third generation smiths.

ojibweindian
October 1, 2011, 12:47 PM
The gun fund is low. Very low, in fact, under $400. The question is, do I wait and save a little more and pick up a quality 9mm, or do I pick up a pistol for plinking now? I have a Sig 220 in .45ACP, but it's a little pricey to shoot every weekend. While 9mm isn't as cheap as .22LR, it's still got the punch I want in a gun plus I can still use it for carry/IDPA events. So, recommendations? There are a half-million "Recommend a 9mm!" threads here on THR, but I feel that most focus more on other, more important (imo) factors such as accuracy, mechanical durability/reliability, or aesthetic value than hitting a particular price point.

I agree that buying a weapon based on a desired price point isn't the best way to go about it, but however that's where I am right now. I have .22LR pistols, I have the .45ACP, but now I want a 9mm. THR dudes (and dudettes), what are your favorite, relatively inexpensive, reliable handguns? Are there brands to avoid at the $400?
NIB - Ruger P95. Stone cold reliable, built like a brick <blank>house, and accurate enough.

Used - Springfield XD9 Service, S&W 5906 and, again, Ruger P95. There are many others which are just as good. These three, though, are models with which I have personal experience.

easyg
October 1, 2011, 01:03 PM
Yep, Ruger has what you're looking for....


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM6391.jpg



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psyshack
October 1, 2011, 01:42 PM
$400 or under, S&W SD 9mm. The SR9's look like they where made for the Signal Corp.

$300 or under, S&W 9VE Sigma. Folks can bag on them all they want. Mine shoots like a laser and has the best barrel I've ever seen. I smoothed out the trigger and lighten it a tad. I have NO reason to go out and purchase another medium or full size 9mm.

My small 9mm is a PF-9 I carry daily and shoot a lot.

carbuncle
October 1, 2011, 01:53 PM
Under $400 you can't go wrong (IMHO) with an S&W 5906/910/915 or Ruger P-series gun.

easyg
October 1, 2011, 02:11 PM
The SR9's look like they where made for the Signal Corp.
What does this mean?

RevDerb
October 1, 2011, 08:14 PM
I carry a Ruger SR9c ($425) and a Ruger LC9 ($350). Both have been 100% reliable. When really discreet is called for, I drop a Ruger LCP in my back pocket.

gordy
October 2, 2011, 12:16 AM
Wow only one guy told you buy a high point. You could buy two for less then any other gun brought up here.
They do work great and have a lifetime guarantee. I have fired one many times and they do work great. If only they look as good as they worked.

Mike1234567
October 2, 2011, 12:36 AM
I'm sure more folks would have recommended a Hi-Point had the price point been lower. Hi-Points are good for what they cost but if the OP can afford better then there are certainly better pistols available. :)

abq87120
October 2, 2011, 12:59 AM
If you join Glock Sport Shooting Foundation (GSSF), you can buy a new Glock for the LEO price, about $100 off. I got my Gen3 G23 .40 S&W for $400. Gen4's are $429. Meprolite night sights were another $65 installed. I got the G23 because I can drop in barrels for 9mm and 357 Sig, ~$110 each from Lone Wolf Distributing. No modifications are required and they shoot just fine. The 40 and 357 Sig use the same mags. The 9mm needs 9mm mags. Also, my .40 recoil spring is a little too much for 9mm 115 gr bullets. 124 gr nines (from Walmart) shoot just fine.

Here is the link for GSSF. Read the first topic. Membership is $35 the first year and $25/yr after that. You can buy one gun a year.

http://www.gssfonline.com/hot-topics.cfm

Dan in ABQ

Jack19
October 2, 2011, 07:27 AM
Get yourself a used 5906; or, if you're looking for something more compact, a 6906.

Don357
October 2, 2011, 05:54 PM
As much as I dislike them, Glock makes a fine 9mm for around $450. But check out the Bersa Thunder 9mm. If you are lucky you may also find a CZ-52 in 9mm, yes I know that they were originally 7.62X25, but some had 9mm barrels installed. Taurus also makes several decent 9mm's. Then there's Ruger, etc... Good ones of many brands are out there, especiall if you don't mind used pieces.

johnnydollar
October 2, 2011, 06:13 PM
Another vote for either of the two better BHP clones, the FEG PJK-9HP (or P9M) or the FM M-90 (or 95). With some Web browsing or gun show scrounging, you might even stumble across a real Browning Hi-Power for less than $400, in the form of an Israeli
turn-in gun. Likely it will look like nine miles of bad road on the outside, but will likely shoot as well as anything out there at that price. For a carry gun, it is really hard to beat the oh-so-slim Hi-Power, and there are plenty of makers that craft a fine holster for it.
JD

obturator
October 2, 2011, 06:30 PM
the most inexpensive 9mm i own is a star model bm.
rock solid gun and 1911 ergos. it has an external safety, something i find sadly lacking on the glocks.
probably around $300 nowadays.

Ben86
October 2, 2011, 06:31 PM
What does this mean?

He's referring to all the flags, or rather brightly colored safeties on it. I think Ruger did go a little overboard with the safeties for the SR9, but I could get past it. It's still a great gun.

dondavis3
October 2, 2011, 08:46 PM
Inexpensive (defiantly not cheap at all)

Take a look at a Sig Sauer P2022 in 9 mm or .40 cal

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/SigP202240cal2.jpg

It comes with a excellent trigger.

And it's a quality Sig Sauer.

They are selling for around $400 or a little more with night sights

:cool:

thefamcnaj
October 2, 2011, 10:31 PM
Springfield Armory is running the xd "essentials" package for really cheap. NIB 399 at some places. I drove two hours to get mine and I love it. Some places on line are selling them for 399.
If you can't find this in your area, look at the kel tec pf9. Its only a single stack but its a great gun. I miss mine. It can be had around the 300 dollar mark give or take a few bucks. Used G19 not a bad way to go either.

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