Need load data for 45acp 230gr Plated bullets


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MoreIsLess
September 17, 2011, 08:21 PM
I bought some plated Ranier bullets, 230gr, 45ACP. From what I understand, for plated bullets I should use the load data in the manuals for cast bullets. Only problem is my manual, Lymans 49, has a listing for 230gr cast bullets for several powders but Win 231, which I have, is not one of the powders listed. It has data for 231 for FMJ, JHP and other cast bullets beside 230gr.

Can someone suggest a "recipe" for 45acp/230 cast using Win 231 or suggest something so I don't have to buy a different powder

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bds
September 17, 2011, 08:26 PM
Lyman #49 has load data for 230 gr Speer TMJ RN (thicker plated bullet) on page 382:

OAL 1.275" Start 5.2 gr (758 fps) 12,900 CUP - Max 5.8 gr (849 fps) 16,200 CUP


Hodgdon load data (http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp) lists the following:

230 GR. HDY FMJ FP Winchester 231 .451" OAL 1.200" Start 4.2 gr (751 fps) 13,800 CUP - Max 5.3 gr (832 fps) 16,800 CUP

230 GR. LRN Winchester 231 .452" OAL 1.200" Start 4.3 gr (699 fps) 12,200 CUP - Max 5.3 gr (834 fps) 16,900 CUP

ghitch75
September 17, 2011, 08:28 PM
231 i would start at 4.5gr and work it up....with 6.0 max.....i load 5.0gr Bullseye...this is sorry for jacketed ....this is from Hornady third edition....

rcmodel
September 17, 2011, 08:29 PM
Ranier data as follows:
Takes a bit to load so be patent.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050502124831/http://www.rainierballistics.com/loaddataMW.htm

rc

FlyinBryan
September 17, 2011, 08:32 PM
i would have to look in my manuals, but if im not mistaken,,,,,, (and i am a lot) i was loading plated bullets as i would load jacketed bullets in 45acp.

its been a while ago now as ive really only loaded hardcast for quite some time.

i really love hardcast buwwits

rcmodel
September 17, 2011, 08:39 PM
Nobody says to use full-charge Jacketed data with plated bullets.

Ranier says to use lead bullet data.
http://www.rainierballistics.com/mainframe.htm

Berry says to use mid-level jacketed data.
http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx

rc

Walkalong
September 17, 2011, 08:43 PM
They are not lead, so do not use lead data. Some starting lead data will stick plated bullets. They are not jacketed, so do not use jacketed data. Some jacketed data will be over pressure.

The good news is there is a good bit of plated data out there, and Berrys will have data soon. Accurate and Vihtavuori both have some plated data in the latest PDF's.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=6195350&postcount=11

FlyinBryan
September 17, 2011, 09:12 PM
well now you have me trying to remember because that definitely would not be good .

i'll look in my book (if my exact loads are not in a given manual i write it on the page where it should be)

FlyinBryan
September 17, 2011, 09:19 PM
i was loading 5.0g of hp 38 with 230g plated bullets

(but i also use the same charge with hardcast)

Walkalong
September 18, 2011, 03:53 PM
5.0 Grs of W231 will work with any 230 Gr lead, plated, or jacketed bullet, assuming your gun likes that bullet.

sean eady
September 18, 2011, 08:36 PM
I have found 5.5 grains of W231 with the 230grain Rainer's to be very accurate.

Walkalong
September 18, 2011, 09:02 PM
An add on to my earlier post. The latest Ramshot PDF has plated data as well. Forgot to mention it.

MoreIsLess
September 19, 2011, 09:43 AM
I loaded about a half dozen Ranier 230gr 45's with 4.8gr W231 and another half dozen with 5.1gr W231 and I could not tell a difference.

mbopp
September 19, 2011, 09:53 AM
FWIW - I'm running 5.0gr of 231 and 230gr Berrys plated RN bullets.

Galil5.56
September 19, 2011, 10:14 AM
5.5 grains WW231, and a 225 grain Mastercast.net (Enon Valley PA) LTC bullet shot from my 4.4" SIG P220 crosses my chronograph with an avg velocity of 771 fps, ES 18 SD7. Load is accurate, and in a 1911 would come very close 800+ fps. Bet your plated bullets will get similar results, and should you want to get more velocity, that would be no problem working up to larger published charge weights as your results permitted safely.

squarles67
September 19, 2011, 10:20 AM
5.6 grains 231 under 230 plated Berry's gives me 781 fps out of a 5" Colt 1911. Very accurate and is my go to plinking load

RON in PA
September 19, 2011, 01:39 PM
5.3 grains of 231 with 230 grain plated Berry's.

I also use the same powder charge with cast lead 200 gr and 230 grain bullets in 45 ACP.

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