ccw test protocol ...what do you use?


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Redlg155
September 17, 2011, 10:32 PM
This afternoon I tested out my new desert eagle. 50 ae...I got lucky and found out that even after the takeover by Kahr, certain models are still made in Israel. My handgun is one of those. To make a long story short, there is no way I could seriously consider this weapon as a CCW.

An active post concerning the largest CCW that you carry made me think...can you shoot a large weapon / caliber and still meet the following? Using my desert eagle experiences today...

Can you effectively fire the weapon...
weak handed? No
At an awkward angle, to include inverted? No
able to draw and effectively clear garments? No
shoot one handed? No
effectively recover from muzzle flash and recoil impulse in low light situations? No
Defend your choice of weapon against an overzealous prosecutor or civil attorney? No


Will my desert eagle pass this test? No..my Sig. 380 or 1911, yes.

Can anyone use a desert eagle or supercharged caliber ...ie..500 SW revover for concealed carry and pass the above?

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56hawk
September 17, 2011, 10:59 PM
I CCW a 500S&W. Of course being a revolver helps with a lot. But to answer your questions:

Can you effectively fire the weapon...
weak handed? Yep, no problem there do it all the time.
At an awkward angle, to include inverted? Not sure I see why this would be any worse even with the Desert Eagle.
able to draw and effectively clear garments? No problem there. I use a cross draw hip holster, but I'm sure other methods would also work.
shoot one handed? Yes, strong or weak handed.
effectively recover from muzzle flash and recoil impulse in low light situations? There is a huge muzzle flash, but it doesn't really bother me.
Defend your choice of weapon against an overzealous prosecutor or civil attorney? I would be willing to try. I'm sure an overzealous prosecutor would go after you regardless of what you use. "Were you intentionally trying to maim my client with your 380?"

Anyway, if you question any of these answers here is a video of me shooting a USPSA match with my 500:

http://youtu.be/tV2JXVWX3VU

Redlg155
September 17, 2011, 11:44 PM
I applaud you as you are the rare exception. As for shooting at awkward angles, The DE is very unforgiving and requires a solid grip in order to work. Revolvers have the advantage of not needing a good solid hold and will work with the shooter allowing the weapon to "roll". However, I have seen an instance where a revolver failed while shooting ar an extreme up angle due to the rounds hanging up on the rear face and not allowing for rotation.

56hawk
September 17, 2011, 11:52 PM
Thanks, I also have a Desert Eagle in 50AE and agree with most of your points. I have to get the perfect grip and stance to keep it from jamming. There is a guy at my range that used to shoot competitions all the time with a Desert Eagle. It always worked for him, but then he's built like a professional football player so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

Twiki357
September 18, 2011, 08:19 PM
56hawk, You make me very depressed. I saved enough out of my social security to buy one, then realized that I would only be able to afford to shoot about 10 rounds a month so I settled for another 1911.

Ben86
September 19, 2011, 12:11 AM
Anyway, if you question any of these answers here is a video of me shooting a USPSA match with my 500

Great shooting.

Biggest bigbore I carry is my S&W M&P45.

56hawk
September 19, 2011, 12:38 AM
56hawk, You make me very depressed. I saved enough out of my social security to buy one, then realized that I would only be able to afford to shoot about 10 rounds a month so I settled for another 1911.

The only way I can afford it is by reloading. It costs me about 25 cents a round. A huge savings over the 2 dollar a round factory ammo.

And thanks Ben86. I placed surprisingly high on that stage.

ArchAngelCD
September 21, 2011, 01:29 AM
You need a all steel .357 Magnum snub nose J frame revolver. (like the M640)

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