Power Pistol and lead?


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chris in va
September 17, 2011, 10:44 PM
Probably not a good combo, right? I'm currently using Universal to good effect, but saw some PP for $14/lb which is awfully hard to pass up.

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RE-15
September 17, 2011, 10:52 PM
I've had the same question, anxious to see what other have to say.

gunlaw
September 17, 2011, 10:54 PM
Go for it. I have used power pistol with cast bullets in 40 s&w and 45 acp with great results. At $14 per pound is a no brainer.

wr400
September 17, 2011, 11:26 PM
Me too I use power pistol an 180gr cast Missouri bullets! Nothing to worry about!

billyjoe
September 18, 2011, 12:50 AM
Works great for me in 9mm and .40 s&w.

FROGO207
September 18, 2011, 06:31 AM
At that price I would get some just for the chance I would use it for jacketed if it would not work with leaded bullets. I think that you will have OK luck with it in 45 ACP with MB lead also, I do.

Galil5.56
September 18, 2011, 07:22 AM
Great combo... How the no lead and PP (internet) myth got started is one that simply needs to die. Ask Ben at Alliant, and he will gladly supply you with lead data; at least for 9mm and .45 ACP as he did for me some years ago. Ammo made is as good or better than my old standbys of AA#5, Unique, HS-5, WW231, Bullseye, HS-6...

Also, Alliant published 158 grain lead .38 Special +P data using power Pistol is simply amazing if you want truly full power "FBI load" type ammo; a measured 925+ fps from a 3" revolver that was accurate with very positive expansion of the Speer LSWC HP bullets.

GilaMonster
September 18, 2011, 01:28 PM
I load 185 gr LSWC over 5.5 gr of Power Pistol for my everyday practice round in my Ruger SR40.

Never have had any problems...

wr400
September 18, 2011, 06:32 PM
I am runnin 6.5 with cast Missouri 180gr bullets an they are runnin 1050 on the Crono! no problems!
Thats in a SR 40

chris in va
September 18, 2011, 06:54 PM
Alright, how about this issue...

Long story short, I have to use a Lee 358-125-RF mold with 1.01oal in my CZ due to a very short leade. Using 3.8gr of Universal, minimum charge considering the bullet is seated right on top of the powder. If I go with PP, what would be considered a minimum given the deep seating?

res45
September 18, 2011, 07:03 PM
I use 6.0 grs. Power Pistol as a max charge with 158 gr. plain base SWC in 38 Spec. case and SP primers,8.0 grs. MAX. in 357 Mag. case same bullet and SMP primer

MV runs about 1200+ fps. in a 4" 357 barrel and 1500+ fps. in 20" rifle barrel.

kelbro
September 18, 2011, 11:45 PM
Works pretty well in 44 Special with 240-250 gr lead.

glenns
September 21, 2011, 12:51 AM
I switched from Bullseye to PP for my 9 mm 125 gr lead bullets. I had problems with bullets 'key holing' with Bullseye. PP is slower burning so it does not key hole.

Using PP was a suggestion from someone here. PP works great with lead.

gregj
September 21, 2011, 01:28 PM
How is the barrel leading using PP with 45acp lead bullets? I currently use WSF for most of my 45ACP loads.

baker1425
September 22, 2011, 09:32 PM
I use PP with my cast boolits. I'm probably gonna swap to it exclusively with cast, instead of juggling whatever's cheapest.

noylj
September 23, 2011, 02:18 AM
There is only one negative aspect to Power Pistol--it produces a really nice flash/fire ball.
All I shoot are lead bullets (except I have started to use jacketed for .38 super), and PP is an excellent powder.
However, whether it is just the can of PP I have or the whole lot or it is endemic to PP, the powder tends to clump up and not meter well for me. I use my RCBS ChargeMaster for dispense it and when I am done, the powder will not pour out the chute. I have to actually pike it to break it up. Have the same problem with a couple of other powders that others seem to have no problems with.
Some loads I like are:
9x19--
Lee 358-105-SWC, as-cast and LLA tumble lube, 6.2gn Power Pistol, COL 1.038
MasterBlaster Moly-Kote 115gn L-SWC, 5.8gn Power Pistol, COL 1.117 in 1911
MasterBlaster Moly-Kote 115gn L-SWC, 6.4gn Power Pistol, COL 1.117 in S&W 5904
Montana Gold 115gn JHP, 6.2gn Power Pistol, COL 1.104" in Glock 17
Precision Moly-Kote 120gn L-TC, 6.5gn Power Pistol, COL 1.083" in CZ75
SAECO #377 125gn L-TC, as-cast and LLA tumble lube, 5.0gn Power Pistol, COL 1.080 in Sig P226
.45ACP (haven't done very many test)--
Precision Moly-Kote 200gn L-SWC, 5.4-6.5gn Power Pistol, COL 1.260 in Colt National Match

Re: Lead bullets
I get zero to absolutely minimal leading in my 9x19, 9x21, .38 Super, .40 S&W, 10mm Auto, and .45 ACP with any powder. Proper sizing and proper lube takes care of that issue.

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