case lube spray- which brand?


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hvychev77
September 22, 2011, 07:39 AM
hey guys, i'm tossin' the idea around in my noggin' about the best way to bulk lubricate some .223 brass. I had a buddy of mine say he used to just spray the cases in a big bowl and shake 'em around a bit. I'm just curious as to what kind of spray you guys would recommend or what method to lubricate bunches of 'em at a time?? cheers, hvychev77

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ColtPythonElite
September 22, 2011, 07:43 AM
I use Hornady One Shot. Your buddy's method will work just fine. It doesn't take much. A little goes a long way.

loadedround
September 22, 2011, 08:45 AM
I have found over the years that all spray lubes are about the same. However if you have a tough sizing job like FL sizing of large volume rifle cases or case forming the best lube to use is Imperial Sizing Wax...bar none. :)

cfullgraf
September 22, 2011, 09:10 AM
I have not had much luck with spray lubricants on bottle neck cases. Maybe my method, maybe the lubricant, maybe both. So, I use either Imperial Sizing Wax or a case lube pad.

The only place i use spray lubricants these days are on 30 Carbine. Works great but I feel it is wasteful. All my other straight walled cases have carbide sizing dies and i don't use lubricant with them.

jcwit
September 22, 2011, 10:33 AM
I use spray lubes to lube handgun brass and 30 cal. carbine brass. to make life easier. Not needed but I'm lazy.

For all rifle brass I use a lube like Unique, never a spray lube.

spclpatrolgroup
September 22, 2011, 10:50 AM
I tried one shot, got a stuck case and ruined the die trying to remove it. Switched to a good ol lube pad, no problems since.

beatledog7
September 22, 2011, 10:58 AM
Ditto above. I like One Shot for straight cases, even with carbide dies. It's not enough for bottleneck cases. For .223 I use Lyman case lube and find it adequate, but have not tied others so can't say how it compares.

kelbro
September 22, 2011, 10:59 AM
Dillon lube or make your own with alcohol and lanolin.

Caliber
September 22, 2011, 11:02 AM
I use dry silicone spray on pistol cases along with carbide die. I use various lubes on rifle cases from one-shot to simple motor oil(applied very sparingly), bag balm, lanolin mixed with alcohol and RCBS case lube.

SlamFire1
September 22, 2011, 11:08 AM
I have found over the years that all spray lubes are about the same. However if you have a tough sizing job like FL sizing of large volume rifle cases or case forming the best lube to use is Imperial Sizing Wax...bar none.

Yupe.

Spray on lubes suck for rifle case sizing. I small base size when ever I can. Imperial Sizing wax or RCBS water soluble for me.

Historian
September 22, 2011, 11:58 AM
Something that discovered on this forum and have been using on my turret press...the RCBS lube die. It puts just the right amount of lube on .223 cases so the they size easily but are not all messy. I have been using Imperial but I can really recommend this tool. It would probably work well on a single stage. You could batch lube fifty or a hundred at a time and set them in loading blocks then put in your sizing die and size them all. Much quicker than using Imperial and lubing each case by hand. I've never tried spray lubes...too much bad press.

Historian

Hondo 60
September 22, 2011, 12:15 PM
+1 on the alcohol & lanolin

I got some from another member here & it's worked perfectly.
He didn't give me permission to publish his name so I won't.

Stay safe my friends!

MtnCreek
September 22, 2011, 12:23 PM
Dillon spray works good.

mbopp
September 22, 2011, 01:04 PM
If you can't find 99% alcohol, HEET isopropyl dry gas should work.
I still have a tin of Mink Oil leather treatment, if I just rub my finger tips over it it's good for 10 or so pistol cases.
Hmmmm.... Mink Oil & dry gas as a home-made spray?

FTG-05
September 22, 2011, 01:12 PM
Dillon lube or make your own with alcohol and lanolin.

This.

Sin City Shootist
September 22, 2011, 02:30 PM
I tried One Shot for the first time just a few days ago. I did get one stuck case but it came out pretty easy and no damage to the die. I just sprayed a bit more on the rest of the cases and no problem(223). I like it, but if I have to small base some brass, I will probably use my old rcbs pad and lube.

squarles67
September 22, 2011, 03:32 PM
+1 more on the alcohol & lanolin

popper
September 22, 2011, 04:03 PM
Can't tell if it is lube or propellant on the case when using spray lubes like one-shot. If they would color the lube it might help. I went back to the pad after a stuck 308 case. Too much trouble getting the case out. I also get another QC check on the case.

gamestalker
September 22, 2011, 04:40 PM
I've been using Dillon for about 10 yrs. but used Lee dry lube for a couple decades before that.

The Dillon works excellent and won't dent sholders as long as you allow it to completely dry, other wise, dents, and possible stuck cases could be the result. I've been fortunate in that I've never stcuk a case with any lube, but with spray on lube it's completely avoidable if you let them dry for a bit.

MtnCreek
September 22, 2011, 04:45 PM
Can't tell if it is lube or propellant on the case when using spray lubes like one-shot.

The Dillon bottle is clear. After it sits on the shelf for an hour or so, you can see the yellow lube settle on the bottom. Shake well prior to lubing.

rsrocket1
September 22, 2011, 05:19 PM
I also use 99% Isoprolyl Alcohol and Lanolin. The same as the Dillon lube, but cheaper. A couple of shots into a gallon sized ziplock bag, then mix it up real good. After that, pour the cases into a box or onto a pan and let the alcohol evaporate off. A nice uniform coating of Lanolin that will slide the cases in and out but not so much that it will cause shoulder dents.

greyling22
September 22, 2011, 05:44 PM
I use 1 shot, but it sure takes a lot to size my 223's. I tried a bowl and a bag and a box, and a tray, but ended up having to use a loading block and spray pretty heavily on all sides.

I used to use it on my 30 carbines, but then I discovered that if I just size them half way I don't need to lube them at all, and they still cycle fine. (same principle as a 9mm. As long as it chambers, why resize that whole tapered case. It's hard on the press, and hard on the arm.)

thorn-
September 22, 2011, 05:50 PM
Another vote for Alcohol and Lanolin. Inexpensive and a bottle will last a longggg time. And it works great. Empty a quart-sized ziplock, spray a couple mists into the bag, dump in the brass and roll it around for a minute or so - comes out evenly lubed.

thorn

joed
September 22, 2011, 06:05 PM
I've used nothing but One Shot for 8 years now, I think it's the greatest. I have friends that swear at it though it has always worked for me. Before using really shake the can well and you'll have no problems.

hvychev77
September 22, 2011, 07:01 PM
thanks guys for so much info. and advice. I think i'm gonna try some homemade mix with alcohol and lanolin first and see how i like it. I did get a case stuck in my FL die yesterday, i was using the rcbs pad and i totally missed one. Anywho, after a few "choice" words i managed to get it out without damaging the die. I posted this to try to find a way to simplify and speed up my processes in loading, not that i care to go through getting out a stuck case again!! sounds like i got some experimenting to do.......thanks again fellas, hvychev77

ranger335v
September 22, 2011, 07:28 PM
Cases get stuck for only one reason; the lube is poorly applied. ALL commercial case lubes work fine IF we follow the directions. And that includes the sprays; seems a lot of people fail to use One-Shot correctly.

If you gonna mix alcohol and lanolin use denatured alcohol, it's found in paint thinner departments. Isoprolyl is "rubbing alcohol" and has a high percentage of water and aromatic oils in it.

AlliedArmory
September 22, 2011, 11:20 PM
I use Hornady One Shot as well. I had 1 stuck case, but that was due to me not properly lubing the cases. I used to do it in trays, but noticed that the lower part of the case would not get any lube. Now I just throw them into a box and spray them down. Not a single issue since.

Woody3
September 22, 2011, 11:25 PM
One shot with the cases sitting in a reloading block. Applied liberally at a 45 degree angle to the cases. Thousands of .233 resized with no issue.
Woody


Keep your head low and your powder dry.

ranger335v
September 23, 2011, 09:58 AM
Sitting cases mouth up in a loading block is the best way to shield and prevent spray lubes from getting on the lower, thicker part of the cases and that's what needs lube most.

Woody3
September 23, 2011, 01:28 PM
Always worked for me.
Of course now that I've said something.... :)


Keep your head low and your powder dry.

BeJaRa
September 23, 2011, 01:39 PM
I have been using Dillon spray lube for 30-06, 223, and 7.62x39. As other have said, if you let the lube sit for a few minutes and dry then you will have no problem. If you spray it then immediatly try to resize it will get stuck most of the time In my experience. One thing I do like about the spray lube is that it doesn't seem to get alot of gunk build up in the decapping die like I got using the Lyman lube pad or Lee lube.

ranger335v
September 23, 2011, 07:26 PM
"One thing I do like about the spray lube is that it doesn't seem to get alot of gunk build up in the decapping die "

Sounds like you're been laying your pad lubes on much too thick.

scythefwd
September 24, 2011, 06:33 AM
I'm using one shot as well. Never had an issue with my .308 brass... my .30-06 brass needs a little more lubing or a better profiled expander. That'll be on order Monday.

EddieNFL
September 25, 2011, 07:54 AM
I have found over the years that all spray lubes are about the same.

With the exception of One Shot, I agree.

Spray lubes work well on small cases such as 5.56. I use a plastic bag. Spray the bag, add brass spray again and shake. For larger brass, nothing is slicker than Imperial.

dagger dog
September 25, 2011, 10:48 AM
The only stuck case I've ever had was NOT FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS, on the Hornady One Shot can. Ranger335v pegged it!

You have to let the One Shot dry to the touch, and as previous posts have stated you need to spray the base also.

I do like to put mine in a reloading block first 'cause that lets you lube the inside of the necks so the expander ball doesn't drag, but then I place 'em on an old baking tray spray again the shake the tray so the cases roll together and spread the lube evenly. Let them dry to the touch and have at it!

If I full size long, rifle cases I go with Imperial wax.

On another thread in a post by fellow member kelbro, he came up with an alterntive, Kiwi netural shoe polish. Guess what? I't smells and feels just like sizing wax and you get more and costs less per oz.

Krogen
September 25, 2011, 11:08 AM
Others have used alcohol and lanolin. If you can't put your paws on lanolin, use Lee's lube mixed about 1:4 with alcohol. I use 99% isopropyl alcohol (aka rubbing alcohol). Get one of those oil sprayers that cooking shops sell. Fill it halfway with the lube/alcohol mixture, pump it up and you've just made your own aerosol case lube. It will settle over time, but a few shakes takes care of that.

This works for most cases, but for heavy work or forming I use Rooster Red or Imperial.

hvychev77
September 25, 2011, 11:57 AM
so i made up some lanolin and alcohol mix last night. worked like a charm as far as lubing bunches of cases at one time. i just put my cases in a ziploc bag and sprayed 'em a few times, then i shook 'em around a bit and they were all coated uniformly. I didn't have any problems resizing, however, it seems that my powder likes to stick to the sides of the case a bit when charging through my lee auto double disc set up. Not sure if this is a problem with my charging set up, or if i got too much lube on the cases or what. it looks like i'm leaking powder out somehow. i took it apart and had powder stuck inside of the rifle charging die, so i'm leaning towards too much lube. i cleaned it up and started over again and it seemed to be a little bit better but, the powder spillage is not completely gone. what's weird is it'll do like 10 cases or so and not have any problems, then i'll charge one and it'll come out covered in h4895. anyhow, it worked much better than i expected..........thanks again guys, hvychev77

evan price
September 26, 2011, 05:45 AM
Lyman Qwik works for me.

Any spray lube you have to let the cases sit about ten minutes after spraying to let the carrier solvent evaporate and the lsick lube settle on the brass. Otherwise it will cause you to stick cases in your die.

Lloyd Smale
September 26, 2011, 08:21 AM
spray lubes like one shoot are great for light sizing dutys. it is quick and easy and tumbles off real fast. But when sizing rounds that take a bit more efford ive seen it fail miserably. for those dutys i like something like anyhydrous lanolin or imperail sizing wax or even lee sizing lube.

hvychev77
September 26, 2011, 08:28 AM
i haven't had any stuck cases since i used the lanolin mixture. My previous post, i was speaking of the powder sticking to the case somewhat. I'm not sure what's going on with it but, i can charge 10 cases or so and then i'll charge one that's just covered with powder. I don't know if it's me or if something is set up wrong. I've made some adjustments, what's funny about it is that it doesn't do it on a case that i haven't put lube on. I can charge and charge and charge and it doesn't stick to the non-lubed case for some reason........

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