International Fortress Safe


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hatmpita
September 23, 2011, 10:43 AM
Has anyone had any experience with this safe manufacturer? Are the ygood safes? Have you had any problems with them? Where are they made? It's a TL-30 safe. Thank you!

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solidheart
September 24, 2011, 01:41 AM
If it's a TL-30 it's built for great security and not just a residential security container or gun safe. Try to find out how well the mechanics of the door are built. Are you looking at a new or used safe? After asking around I believe their made in Europe.

hatmpita
September 26, 2011, 10:39 AM
Interesting! I have an opportunity to purchase a used one at a very reasonable price. The jewelry shop that is selling it says it's a good one and they have only had it for 3 years. I was thinking if a jewelry shop has it and it can be insured, it must pass muster! Anyones thoughts? Thank you!

a1abdj
September 26, 2011, 02:05 PM
All UL ratings only require a safe to pass the standards as written. You could have two TL-30 safes. One may be able to be opened in 31 minutes, and the other could take an hour to get into.

There are high end safes, some of which you have mentioned in previous posts, that would be better safes than this one. However, this one still has the same rating, and would meet the same insurance requirements.

hatmpita
September 27, 2011, 06:08 PM
a1abdj. I really respect your opinion with regards to safes. I'm trying to save some money by going down a little in protection but still offering more than enough protection for my future assets. Would you feel comfortable with assets of around $75,000-100,000 in the International Fortress TL-30? I don't have nearly that much right now but plan to have it in the next 5 years or so. I'm concerned than the ISM Ultravault 5920 isn't wide enough to store many things (guns, money, jewelry, and so on) and I'm affraid of running out of room. The International Fortress is a 6528 so it's nearly eight inches wider and two inches deeper and six inches taller! Your thoughs are most appreciated!

a1abdj
September 27, 2011, 06:38 PM
Around here, a TL-30 would be insurable on a commercial policy for that type of figure, so long as it was not cash. Actually, a TL-15 would probably be suitable as well, so the TL-30 is probably a step beyond.

If it's good enough for an insurance company, it's good enough for me.

heeler
September 28, 2011, 12:39 AM
a1abdj,why would a safe of that stature be good enough on a commercial policy to store 75-100k in assets such as jewlery,etc but not the same amount in cash assets?

Shadow 7D
September 28, 2011, 12:56 AM
The jewelry requires an intermediary
cash and similar convertibles go for face value and don't need to be fenced.

a1abdj
September 28, 2011, 10:26 AM
Shadow nailed it.

The easier it is to disappear, the less of it they will let you keep in it. Cash is usually allowed at 10% to 20% of the rating. If you had a safe insurable at $250,000 in assets, but it was being used at a check cashing store, it may only be insured at $25,000 to $50,000.

This varies a bit from insurance company to insurance company. In some cases you can get coverage that exceeds the rating. Firearms are a good example. They have serial numbers, involve federal laws, and usually get a lot of attention from the police when they go missing. This is why a number of gun shops get away with using regular gun safes (or no safes at all sometimes) for their inventories.

hatmpita
October 10, 2011, 10:44 AM
Well I got the safe! Had to pay a safe mover/safe tech to move it. Weighing in at about 3500 lbs. didn't want to try myself. I now feel as if my stuff is secure. I'm glad that I paid a safe tech to move it. He went through the safe and said it was in good working order. He also disengaged the glass relocker during the move, something that I wouldn't have thought of, to prevent damage and a safe lock out.

Fred Fuller
October 11, 2011, 09:30 PM
Sounds as if you did very well all round on your safe. Doing business with a good safe tech is money well spent in my book.

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