Uberti Cattleman Hombre- Opinions Please?


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igotta40
September 23, 2011, 11:22 PM
I just looked at the subject revolver at Academy in .357 caliber. At home I did a quick Internet search and found some positive comments. Does anyone have first hand experience they would care to pass along to me as to the quality of this firearm? It's the model in black matte finish with brass frame and wood grips, apparently at the 'entry level' of the quite large Uberti Cattleman line. Are they made in Italy by Beretta?

I ask, partly because of the price of the one I looked at, $279.00, so what's the story on Uberti guns? Are they on par with Taurus? If so I'll disregard (not Taurus bashing, but they are what they are). Or is Uberti something to consider?

Specifically, how well do they hold up? Parts, finish, accuracy, etc?

My use would be range shooting, mainly...

Comments please?

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HDCamel
September 23, 2011, 11:39 PM
Uberti makes good stuff.
Beretta owns Uberti, but they act mostly independently.

Would this be your first true single action?

igotta40
September 23, 2011, 11:49 PM
HDCamel, thanks for the reply. Not my first time shooting SA, but my only experience is with Dad's .44 Magnum Vaquero. Actually I just bought a Vaquero myself 3 days ago in .45LC but so far have only polished it and put it back in the safe... hopefully I'll get to the range with it tomorrow.

More comments, opinions, please?

HDCamel
September 24, 2011, 12:03 AM
Well, the Vaquero is nothing like the Cattlemans really.

Ubertis are more like actual old west colts. 4 clicks and the firing pin on the hammer (no transfer bar). Half-cock to load (instead of just opening the loading gate). The parts themselves are durable, they're better balanced than the Rugers IMO and they shoot really sweet.

They loosen up when you shoot 'em though (just like the originals), so you need to keep a screwdriver handy.
Also, the brass parts get dirty easily so you'll want to have some brasso, buffing compound, and a dremel with a buffing head to keep it shiny.

Here's a video of a limited torture test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj6aNsl9Za0

igotta40
September 24, 2011, 12:57 AM
Thanks for the information. I actually like the fact that the Uberti is more authentic with regard to the Colt SAA, good selling point, but quite honestly I think I may have a look at more of Uberti's product line because the one I looked at is not really very appealing, visually (matte finish). It's just that the price is so attractive for a gun I'll use mainly for fun at the range.

My main concern is that if I buy it, will I be satisfied with the quality of their product? It appears I would....

HDCamel
September 24, 2011, 01:25 AM
I know what you mean about the finish. I passed on an hombre in favor of the case-hardened frame. A more expensive, but worth it IMO.

Sorry about the quality, but the only camera I have right now is an iPod
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/HDcamel/334630476.jpg

goodtime
September 24, 2011, 02:33 AM
I have five of 'em. Three in .357 and two in .45 Colt. The quality is very good. The only difference between the Hombre and the others in the Uberti line is finish, with the one exception being the El Patron, which is premium tuned at the factory and given special springs. They all benefit from aftermarkert springs. Don't let the $279.00 scare you off, the Hombre is a good, solid gun. I swear by mine.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
September 24, 2011, 11:21 AM
They are 250.00 from Tanners. I think shipping is 20.00 and no tax.

bluetopper
September 24, 2011, 11:37 AM
I wouldn't put Taurus as a whole in the same league as Uberti on fit, finish, and quality, .........and pride of ownership. I'm not a Taurus basher at all just going buy personal experience and observation.

TwoWheelFiend
September 24, 2011, 12:32 PM
I have an Uberti Bisley in .45LC. Great gun. Suprisingly enough it has the lightest and most crisp trigger of any of my revolvers, it is the preverbial "glass rod" breaking. Love the gun and im assuming The other Uberti revolvers are of the same quality. I did have a trigger bolt spring break after shooting a bunch of HOT 300gr bullets out of it. Replaced it with a Wolf spring and its been good ever since.

ChasMack
September 24, 2011, 01:15 PM
I bought one of Tanners Uberti's for $250.00. Could not go wrong...great gun for the money. The only thing is the looks of it. I did an antique job to make it look older and better than the matte. The frame has a rough texture that I doubt can be improved on as I would think it would cost more than the gun is worth. I also just got a Uberti Cattleman that is a step above the Hombre...smooth frame,CCH, polished brass grip frame...very pretty and BOTH are good shooters. The Hombre is 45lc and the Cattleman is in 357. So far with the little shooting I've been able to do, the 357 gets 2" at 15yds offhand, and the 45lc gets about the same. Shooting was done with 3 different cheap walmart bought bullets. I have gotten a batch of 38's and a few 357's reloaded to try. Once I get set in knowing what my guns like, I'll do a range report.

igotta40
September 24, 2011, 04:51 PM
Thanks, this is the info I was asking for. Looks like my next SA will be a Uberti. Now all I need to do is find a store with a good selection of them....

bluetopper
September 24, 2011, 05:21 PM
If you're local gun store selection is like mine:(, buying online may be the way to go.

ChasMack
September 24, 2011, 06:59 PM
There is a local gunstore near me that sells them, but for $400.00,plus tax. Same thing,nib,from Tanners would be the way to go. He's on Gunbroker. He told me he has a contract to sell 650 of them over time. He has 45lc, 4.75" but said he may be getting 357's, just does not know when.

goodtime
September 25, 2011, 05:46 PM
I got one from Tanners at Gunbroker.com, too. Couldn't resist the price. They're good guys to do business with.

DCSpringfield
September 25, 2011, 06:00 PM
I have a Cimmeron ( same as Uberti) "Thunderer" model with birdshead grip and short barrel in .45LC. The finish and fit is beautiful on it! In my opinion, Uberti, Cimmeron and Baretta get undo bashing on talk forums. If you haven't seen any of the Uberti rifles you are missing some beauties. I've been wanting a nickle Uberti Schoefield .45LC for a long time. One complaint, their prices are a bit to high.
I didn't like the matt finished Uberti either, but the CCH frame with blue and brass grip frame is real nice!

D.

Whacked
September 26, 2011, 02:30 AM
I have the Uberti Hombre .45LC
I love it.
Fit and finish is great.
Accuracy, well I havent shot it from a rest so all I cant offer much altho judging from my grip and stance, I am pleased with the results.
So far, doing quite well, I've owned it a couple months and have about 500 rounds thru the bore.

ElPasoWrangler
October 19, 2011, 11:18 PM
I bought a 357 from Academy about a monh ago. I was out shooting it in the desert today. With 5 rounds on board I started shooting at a bleach bottle about 25 yards away.I liked shooting at it because every time I hit it I could see the hole in the bottle. Five shots and five holes nicely grouped. What more could I have asked of the gun? I love it. It is my first SA revolver. I have missed a lot not owning one sooner. I did order a Wolff spring kit and will install them when they arrive. I bought them after handling a Cimerron with them at a GS. It was so nice. Seems like there are a lot of SAs made by ubertie and assembeld by someone else. Mine is a Stoeger.

Hondo 60
October 20, 2011, 12:04 AM
I love my Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Brass.
I think it looks sharp & it's more accurate than me.

http://www.jbabcock.net/guns/uberti.jpg


http://www.jbabcock.net/guns/uberti_target.jpg

MCgunner
October 20, 2011, 01:01 PM
A LGS had one of these recently. They wanted 299 and it was "on sale". So, sounds like that price is a bargain, or at least a good price. I passed on it as I didn't have the money or at least didn't wanna SPEND the money. I do own a couple of Ruger Blackhawks, one a .45 colt stainless 4 5"8" and the other a 6.5" .357 magnum blued gun. Both of these will shoot 1" at 25 yards off the bench with their fave loads. The .45 Colt, with my hot handload, rivals any .44 magnum in power with a 300 grain XTP. So, the Uberti would just have been because I like the traditional look and thought it'd be fun. I'm into cap and ball and just got a 5.5" Pietta '58 Remington ordered from Cabela's on sale for $179 and while it's not as accurate as that target at 25 yards yet, I'm still working on loads. It shoots to POA and it's a hoot and I LOVE the look and feel of the gun, so it sorta satisfied the itch I had for that .357 Uberti I was looking at. :D I'm not sure why, but I really like the cap and ball stuff, more fun than cartridge guns. It ain't logical, I know.

I will say, the Blackhawks are FAR more useful as tools than my cap and ball stuff and even that Uberti, but hey, I like style and at this point in my life and collection, I don't need a "use" for a gun to like or own or shoot it. I may wind up with a Uberti or other '73 Colt clone, anyway, down the road. They are way cool. :D

Triggernosis
October 20, 2011, 01:03 PM
Here's how they're made: http://youtu.be/qYOJa8ZNxmE

Hondo 60
October 20, 2011, 04:18 PM
Uberti stayed true to the original style & size of the 1873 Colt Peacemaker.

Blackhawks are great guns, but the frame is bigger than the Uberti.
I happen to have short fingers & ended up trading a Blackhawk for a 2nd Uberti.

This might be good or bad depends on your position, but Uberti also has the original design of the trigger mounted hammer.
Whereas Ruger went with a transfer bar. They say it's safer. :scrutiny:

I say just keep the hammer on an empty chamber til you're ready to shoot.

MCgunner
October 20, 2011, 06:00 PM
but Uberti also has the original design of the trigger mounted hammer.
Whereas Ruger went with a transfer bar. They say it's safer.

It is safer to carry 6 in the cylinder. That cannot happen with the old Colt, not safely. Not like you're going to need that extra round, but the hole is wasted in the Colt. Also, .45 Colt Blackhawks are much better for hunting or outdoor uses involving heavy loads. They can be loaded to .44 magnum levels, not safe in Uberties or other Colt clones or Colts. That, of course, does not apply to the .357s as the Colt and clones will handle ANY SAAMI safe ammo in that caliber.

I love the Blackhawk for the utility, but the Colts LOOK a lot cooler and shoot well and have utility in .357 or in .45 Colt with a 255 grain flat nose moving out up to 1000 fps. They are easier on the hip than a Blackhawk. I have the Blackhawk, would really like to own a good Colt clone in the future, too. :D There is no law I've read that says I can't own and enjoy both.

DCSpringfield
October 21, 2011, 01:44 PM
MCgunner,
I can empathize with the cap and ball fondness.
In 1970 when wife and I were stuck in Oakland, California while going to Navy schools on Treasure Island I really missed my guns at home in Ohio. I bought an 1851 Clone through the mail and we often went to the range up in the hills and spent HOURS shooting it for next to nothing. It was great when money was short. Powder, caps and balls were cheap. Shooting/reloading was slow and it was fun. I haven't shot it in about 25 years now but I still like looking at it and cleaning it once in a while.

D.

MCgunner
October 21, 2011, 02:01 PM
Well, today at the range, I found the load. 25 grain equivalents of 777 behind a swaged .454" round ball gave me 3" groups to POA at 25 yards. So, I can live a LITTLE longer without a 73 colt clone. I'm sorta thinkin' about getting a .45ACP converter cylinder for the Remmy, too. :D Those converters are a might expensive, 240 bucks. That'd nearly buy that Uberti in the OP. But, cool thiing, nothiing has any 4473 paperwork. :D That's always a good thing. And, I have a .45 Colt, don't own a .45ACP revolver since I sold my 1917 Smith.

ElPasoWrangler
October 21, 2011, 10:44 PM
Been out in the desert again today. I really like this gun. I was shooting quart beer bottle at about 25 yards off hand. What fun!

Quoheleth
October 23, 2011, 12:26 AM
Is the frame the same size for both .357 and .45?

Q

ElPasoWrangler
October 23, 2011, 11:40 AM
From what I read they are. The only difference is the 357 has smaller holes drilled in them instead of 45 cal which makes walls a bit thicker and a tad heaver.
I am waiting for my Wolff springs to arrive today to begin tuning this gun.

Hondo 60
October 23, 2011, 03:51 PM
Is the frame the same size for both .357 and .45?

Yes, the frame is the same size.
Smaller holes in the cylinder & smaller hole in the barrel ;)

ElPasoWrangler
October 27, 2011, 11:59 PM
WoW! What a difference springs make.I now have a gun with a smooth hammer pull and a 2.4 pound trigger. Great gun!!! I have already decided to get the matching 45 colt.

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