How many shots before you start to fade?


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Mark IV Series 80
January 27, 2003, 10:20 PM
How many rounds do you fire in a range session before you notice that your shooting is not as good as it was earlier in the session?

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chaim
January 27, 2003, 10:35 PM
I start to feel fatigue and fall off a bit somewhere between 100-250 rounds depending upon the caliber and how tired/energetic I was when I started (I voted 100 since I usually go shooting in the evening after work when I don't have the most energy in the world).

kalibear45
January 27, 2003, 10:45 PM
I can knock out 500rds of .22lr in one range session with no problems but at the same time, a box of 240gr .44 magnum is enough to get me sore after that my groups start to change.

Shane
January 27, 2003, 10:47 PM
It depends on the cartridge. .22 LR I can shoot practically all day without tiring. .357 magnum OTOH, tends to tire me out after only 50-100 shots.

I've shot 300 rounds of .45 ACP in one day, and only started feeling tired towards the last 30.


The one time I shot a .44 magnum, I was done after only one wheel through (6 shots). :what:

Kevin
January 27, 2003, 10:54 PM
Anything over 200 rounds of 45acp and I am just wasting ammo.

Kahr carrier
January 27, 2003, 10:59 PM
22LR-I can shoot that all day ,Centerfire about 200 Rounds.:D

funbob
January 27, 2003, 11:10 PM
Last range session I shot...

200 rds of 9mm, 250 rds of .40, and 100 rds of .223

Aside from a bruised shoulder and a sore thumb I felt just as fresh as when I started :D

hansolo
January 27, 2003, 11:19 PM
The time I fired a borrowed Ruger .44 Mag, I was REALLY excited!
The owner offered me his padded shooting glove, but I declined.
The first round was about what I expected: a jolt, but the barrel didn't exactly hit me in the face. The next three-four rounds grouped pretty well. I noticed my right palm was starting to tingle. By the sixth and final round, I told the owner that I really appreciated it, and was done. I wasn't in PAIN, but didn't want to waste his ammo.

I'll do it again next chance I get!

10-Ring
January 28, 2003, 12:20 AM
I routinely bring 550 22lr and a few hundred of 9 mm or 45 acp and enjoy every minute of it. Last year, when I discovered reloading, I was shooting ALOT more. I've slowed down...I'm blaming the law of diminishing returns.

444
January 28, 2003, 12:31 AM
If I am shooting for serious accuracy, on paper, I have discovered that my vision is only sharp for about 30 rounds. I can continue to shoot, but I don't get the same degree of accuracy as I did to begin with.
I spend a lot of time shooting at a steel plate target I have at ranges over 100 yards with my AR15s. The plate is about 7 inches square. I can get at least 50 rounds before my vision starts to blur and my eyes become fatigued.
I very seldom just shoot at random objects lying around. Even when I am not shooting groups on paper, I am shooting at some kind of target. I find that I enjoy shooting my AR15s so much that I might go through 100-120 rounds at a session. I want to shoot more but I feel that I am not at my best so I usually stop there. With handguns I usually shoot no more than 50 rounds. When shooting scoped rifles from a bench it isn't unusual for me to shoot less than 20 rounds and pack it in.
One factor that plays into all this is that I am lucky enough to be able to shoot often. I usually go out every couple days and I can shoot within maybe 10 minutes of my house. So, shooting a dozen rounds and going home is no big deal. I can see that if I could shoot only rarely, I would try to squeeze more out of each session.

stevec
January 28, 2003, 01:01 AM
My eyes will usually give out before my concentration. Should have kept better care of them when I was a kid...

Steve

Fatcat
January 28, 2003, 02:13 AM
I can go about 100 rounds with the .44 SBH before I gotta switch to another gun for a while. Long guns, on the other hand, I have no problem shooting until I'm out of ammo.

New_comer
January 28, 2003, 04:00 AM
Poor posture could do me in very quickly.

I fired only a dozen shots from my airgun from a semi-crouch position ,and my back and my legs hurt. :(

With my handgun, I feel a hundred 9mm shots is more than enough for me to practice per range session. More than that, and I feel like I'm wasting ammo.

voilsb
January 28, 2003, 04:20 AM
I don't really know. It's not something I really thought about.

Normally, I'll get bored with working on specific accuracy before I'll fatigue from it, at which point I start shooting for fun rather than for skill or I take a shooting break altogether and let other people shoot my guns. Then maybe I'll come back and work on accuracy again or something.

So it's really hard for me to tell, honestly. It also depends on how tired, cold, warm, hungry, etc, I am.

Dave T
January 28, 2003, 10:55 AM
Actually, I don't know when my shooting ability fades because my bad back (3 herniated discs) gives out before I get tired of shooting. I voted for 200 rounds as that's about how much I can shoot before the back makes me quit.

10-Ring
January 28, 2003, 11:16 AM
If we're going to mix in injuries, I can add that over the summer when I had some serious tendonitis in my elbow, I didn't last 50 rounds (even in 22lr) before pain would kick in and sap all the fun out of shooting :( Thankfully, drugs have been very very good to me :cool:

556A2
January 28, 2003, 12:57 PM
After about 100-150 centerfire rounds, I take a 15 minute break (If at an outdoor range or in the country) or call it a day if I'm at a timed indoor range.

Archie
January 28, 2003, 04:58 PM
That is 150 rounds, concentrating hard.

Probably, I'm fading out before the end, but usually I can shoot consistently all through.

Now, an NRA Conventional Bullseye Match is 270 rounds. 90 from a 45, 90 from a centerfire, and 90 from a 22. All fired one handed and on your feet like a gentleperson.

If you want to develop some staying power, work on that.

Schuey2002
January 28, 2003, 05:00 PM
I'm like that cute little "Energizer" bunny...

I keep going and going and........:D

91101
January 28, 2003, 05:35 PM
I voted 200 because I rarely shoot more than this on the indoor range. I've shot 140 rounds of 10mm and 80 rounds of .40 and felt fine. Last time out I shot 70 rounds out of my Bersa Thunder 380 and 100 out of my SW99 .40 and had MORE than enough....

Michael

Peetmoss
January 28, 2003, 06:17 PM
I suck weather it be 1 round or 500 so I choose doesn't change

triggertime
January 28, 2003, 06:54 PM
In my experience, fatigue usually depends on how zealous you are about your training regimen. If you shoot for fun, then you're likely to fatigue quickly. But if you're the type that shoots to train, then your devotion to your craft usually overrides fatigue.

Its akin to a kid in a video arcade where the tired parent says, "You ready yet? I'm tired and I want to go home." and the kid says, "No way man, I'm just getting started!"

I'm that kid. :neener:

Ewok_Guy
January 28, 2003, 08:01 PM
Never.

JeepDriver
January 28, 2003, 08:52 PM
Right around 300 rounds of 9mm.

I shoot 200-300 rounds a week because that is the most rounds I can shoot accurately.

But..........................

If I shoot after that it isn't for accuracy it's just for fun. Some times it's just fun to load up a bunch of 15 rounders and blast away! To hell with the accuracy!!! What can I say, WalMart has cheap ammo and I love to shoot!!!

cratz2
January 28, 2003, 09:20 PM
Man, you 'My shooting ability doesn't fade' voters are real men! My answer was after 100 rounds.

There for a year or so when I was going for accuracy and doing 'drill bills', I would take my Dan Wesson 22 revolver and some centerfire handgun, either a CZ, a 1911 or Taurus PT99 to the range. I would shoot about 50 rounds of the 22 then switch to centerfire. Generally, I'd take 100 rounds of ammo. First 10 rounds was slow paced fire at 25 yards. Then in no particular order I'd do double taps at 25 yards, double taps at 7 yards, 3, 4 or 5 round rapid fire at 7 yards, one shot to each of two targets at 25 yards, one shot into one target, then another, then back to the first one. Then some 50 yard target shooting and 100 yard gong ringing. Then I'd go back to informal rimfire plinking.

I love the 45 ACP cartridge and I love the 1911 platform but I must admit that I did much better shooting at the longer distances when I had a 9mm with me. Also, the few time we started off shooting centerfire at longer distances, after a short warm up, my groups were better and I was more confident in them than when shooting at longer distances after a lot of shooting.

Matthew Courtney
January 28, 2003, 11:47 PM
I do not shoot as often as I should. My shooting actually improves through the first 2 magazines. After about 150 more rounds, I start to lose my mental focus unless I am involved in some sort of competetion.

Excepting .44 magnum and full power 12 gauge loads, I cannot recall physical fatigue preceding a loss of mental concentration.

larryw
January 29, 2003, 01:24 AM
Kinda depends on the circumstances of the day and caliber. Generally I can count on 100 to 200 rounds before I need to really think about it. When I find my concentration wandering, I take a mental "walk" and get back to it. If that doesn't sort things out, I call it a day before bad habits develop.

dev_null
January 29, 2003, 11:48 AM
Kinda depends on the caliber, doesn't it?

40 rounds of .308 through the T/C Encore and I start getting a bit shaky. OTOH, I can shoot 600 rounds of .45 LC c'boy loads and feel fine. .22, I get bored before I get tired.

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BigG
January 29, 2003, 12:23 PM
100 rounds. After that my groups start to look like patterns. :eek:

Mark IV Series 80
January 31, 2003, 12:03 AM
After about 50 rounds, I'm doing my best.

After 200 rounds of .45 ACP, my groups will open-up.

If I mix-in .22 LR's, .38 Specials, and 9mm's, then I'm good for a few more rounds.

Trisha
January 31, 2003, 03:38 PM
I practice tactical drills when I go to the range, instead of slow-fire target shooting, so I suppose I don't fatigue the same.

I also work on shotgun, and transitions; as well as precision with one of my .44 magnums.

I'm usually good for at least 5-600 rounds of .45acp; 70-100 rounds of 12ga, and the same for .44 in one day at the range.

Trisha

Ryder
February 1, 2003, 03:49 AM
About 100 toe touches picking up brass and I'm done for! I can shoot a lot more when I take the kid to help out with that task. Thinking about getting some knee pads to crawl around on :D

Skunkabilly
February 1, 2003, 05:39 PM
I get tired after about 200 rounds of .45. Not so much from shooting, but from loading magazines. I don't like the ergonomics on my KZ45 much, either.

My Beretta I can shoot all day. I'd probably die of thirst before I got tired from shooting it.

coonan357
February 1, 2003, 06:08 PM
we ussually start at 11 am and we run either out of sunlight or ammo before we get tired ,last time it was ammo. over 2 k of .357/.38 and 2 bricks (5500 rds) of .22 lr ( 50 rd mags eat alot quickly ) amongst the 5 shooters some of us were tired after the first 2 hours but I ussually last the whole day by pacing myself , I shoot till my gun gets hot then switch off to another one and shoot that for a while , the 10 /22 should be worn out by now but it isn't . and the coonan sees regular times also .most peoples thumbs are worn out from reloading the magizines , thank goodness for caluses :rolleyes:

Monkeyleg
February 1, 2003, 06:43 PM
When I shoot my handguns, it's for accuracy and not speed (usually). Four targets, twenty-five rounds each. The second or third target is usually my best, and on the fourth accuracy starts to fall away. Lack of concentration, I suppose.

Shooting for speed doesn't affect me until 200-300 rounds.

DAL
February 1, 2003, 08:15 PM
As others have said, it's caliber dependent. 200 rounds out of my Glock 26 9mm is more tiring than 200 rounds out of my CZ75BD or 200 rounds of my reloads out of my 1911. Of course, 300 rounds of .22 LR is just a warm-up.
DAL

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