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gfpd707
September 26, 2011, 12:06 AM
I recently sold a magpul adjustable stock on eBay to a buyer in Canada. Is it legal to poses this stock there and can I send it there.

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El Mariachi
September 26, 2011, 12:09 AM
I'm sure Canada probably has an official website outlining what they can and can not own. Which from what I remember from a Kanuckian friend, is basically Red Ryders, sling shots and lawn darts......:D

gfpd707
September 26, 2011, 12:10 AM
I have googled it but can't find anything useful.

hermannr
September 26, 2011, 12:12 AM
It is a stock, not a firearm, why shouldn't you be able to send it. I know of several firearms that are restricted, but not a particular stock.

You might want to look here: http://www.panda.com/canadaguns/#att

pikid89
September 26, 2011, 08:30 AM
i would be more concerned about the legal implications of sending non sporting firearms parts OUT of the US

I don't know wether a magpul stock would be allowed or not, I'm just saying it warrants further investigation

Sam Cade
September 26, 2011, 11:01 AM
I don't know weather a magpul stock would be allowed or not, I'm just saying it warrants further investigation

Its a non-exportable item. So, ITAR violation.

Sam Cade
September 26, 2011, 11:06 AM
It is a stock, not a firearm, why shouldn't you be able to send it.

Its considered a "defense article" under ITAR.

http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar_official.html

crossrhodes
September 26, 2011, 12:24 PM
The ITAR is a tripwire many don't see until it's to late. Rule of thumb...don't mess with canada. Jokingly...if it's illegal in ********** it's illegal in canada.

pikid89
September 26, 2011, 01:25 PM
Its considered a "defense article" under ITAR.

http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulati..._official.html

well i think that answers that question, looks like a refund is in order

MD_Willington
September 26, 2011, 02:27 PM
Adjustable stocks are allowed... Not sure if the one you sold is allowed though.

http://www.marstar.ca/ac-AR-15/index.shtm

4 Adjusting Positions Carbine Stock (black)
6 Adjusting Position Carbine Stock (green)
6 Adjusting Positions Carbine Stock (black)


http://www.marstar.ca/ac-ATI/ATI-semi-auto.shtm

Ruger® 10/22® Six Position Side Folding 6 Position Collapsible Side Folding Buttstock with Adjustable Cheekrest, Buttpad and Pistol Grip.



PS - yes there is an official website for firearms, it's an RCMP website:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/index-eng.htm

Sam Cade
September 26, 2011, 02:39 PM
Adjustable stocks are allowed... Not sure if the one you sold is allowed though.

Canadian law isn't the problem, its US law that prohibits the export of certain items.

MD_Willington
September 27, 2011, 04:39 PM
Yes I get ITAR & non-exports etc.. however the BATFE could use a refresher...

any who

Several firearms accessories stores in Canada sell Magpul products. Both for airsoft and for actual firearms.
Examples:
milsig.ca
ebay.ca
http://www.albertatacticalrifle.com/ar15.html

MAGPUL MOE Carbine Stock - Mil-Spec Model, BLACK (MAG400-BLK)
http://www.gptactical.com/en/products/ar-15-accessories/p17643649.html

gfpd707
September 27, 2011, 07:59 PM
I went ahead and canceled the ebay sale. The buyer had no disagreement with me doing so. It probably would have went through without any problems but I just felt weird about it.

Dr_B
September 27, 2011, 08:44 PM
Probably a good idea. Lots of innocent things get looked at closely when crossing the border into Canada. I once had a computer held up at the border in Buffalo by Canadian customs, and it was a machine built in Canada that had been shipped to the US for repairs (long story). But it was only a regular computer.

Sam Cade
September 27, 2011, 09:49 PM
.. however the BATFE could use a refresher...


On what?

ITAR has nothing to do with the ATF.





Several firearms accessories stores in Canada sell Magpul products

That has nothing to do with the items on the USML.

MD_Willington
September 28, 2011, 02:35 PM
On what?

ITAR has nothing to do with the ATF.

Sam, google up "Grenade Walker".. or go here:
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/grenade-case-explodes-and-leaves-many-questions

BATFE allowed grenade components to be walked across the Mexican border, that would be a violation of ITAR, components were made into working grenades, & said grenades were sold to and used by a Mexican drug cartel...

gearchecker
September 28, 2011, 03:20 PM
ITAR has issue with just about anything that can be possibly used for any type of item that may or may not have a military or defense use.
ITAR is one of the biggest PITA's I deal with where I work. ITAR even limits exposure to the manufacture of reglated parts to citizens of the USA or properly credentialed employees.
Because of ITAR regulations my company has to do an instant background check on any person entering our facility for the 1st time. That even included my wife a couple months ago when she brought me lunch. Once a person passes the check, they're good to go. My company has had a couple people that tried to get work here fail the background check. Needless to say we haven't hired them, and we're not allowed to tell them why.
It's better to take the pass than to get tied up in a bunch of gov't red tape

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