h4227 and 44Mag


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biogenic
September 30, 2011, 05:34 PM
Found a can of h4227 and want to load some 44 mag with 240 lswc from Missouri bullets. Would a 300 CCi primer work with that or do I need some magnum primers ?

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rcmodel
September 30, 2011, 05:43 PM
Yes, Mag primers might be best with that powder.

At least Lyman #49 load data says so with a * notation.

rc

biogenic
September 30, 2011, 11:03 PM
Thanks RCMODEL ! Have you ever tried that powder ? If yes any good ? I'll be shooting a 629-2 6.5"

TooManyToys
October 1, 2011, 04:00 AM
A friend of mine reloads IMR 4227 in .44 Mag. ...probably my favorite powder in .44 Mag.
Good firm recoil with out feeling like it is abusing the gun.
Never shot H4227, but it should be very similar.

critter
October 1, 2011, 05:52 AM
I shoot 4227 in my FA .454 using mag small rifle primers and it works really well. I've just loaded some .44 mag loads with mag primers to try. Expecting good results.

Miata Mike
October 1, 2011, 06:03 AM
What is the general consensus on type of primer for H4227/IMR4227?

Regular or Magnum primer?

Caddisflied
October 1, 2011, 06:13 AM
Would a 300 CCi primer work

Lyman used the CCI 300 Large Pistol primers for all their 44Mag loads in the old (1978)
Pistol & Revolver Handbook that I have.
(They do list loads for IMR4227, but not H4227 specifically)

Miata Mike
October 1, 2011, 06:18 AM
Lyman used the CCI 300 Large Pistol primers for all their 44Mag loads in the old (1978)
Pistol & Revolver Handbook that I have.
(They do list loads for IMR4227, but not H4227 specifically)

Funny thing is my IMR 4227 is probably that old in a sealed can. ;)

biogenic
October 1, 2011, 12:51 PM
Thanks for the input. Would the powder work better with something else ? I can load a variety of calibers. 10mm, 38s, 9mm, 357 etc. I know it's an oldie but I would hate to see it go to waste.

rcmodel
October 1, 2011, 01:34 PM
Either the .357 or .44 Mags are the best use of it.

Auto pistols, & low pressure revolver rounds, not so much.

rc

buck460XVR
October 1, 2011, 01:35 PM
As I understand, the "new" IMR4227 is just the "old" H4227 renamed, and that the "old" IMR4227 has been discontinued since Hodgdon bought out IMR. I find I like IMR4227 in my long piped 629 and .44mag carbines. It also works well for my hunting loads in my .460 since it is not as temperature sensitive as H110/W296. I have also used it in my 686's and .357mag carbines with good success also.

bluetopper
October 1, 2011, 03:17 PM
Yes, I've read from other sources that the current IMR 4227 is the old H4227. I've never used a magnum primer with it and never personally read where it needs one. It's a bit slower burning than H110 and it's quite soft shooting applied to 44 Magnums, even crammed full, and very accurate. But 4227 is the cat's meow in my 500 S&W Handi-rifle.

I want to however recommend Accurate 4100 powder to all those who shoot magnum handguns of any caliber.

Eb1
October 2, 2011, 05:35 PM
I use IMR 4227 in .44 Mag. Twenty-two grains of it to be exact with the Missouri Cast LSWC, and I use WLP or CCI Large Pistol primers. I have never used Magnum Primers in any of the .44 Magnum loads I have shot. IMR 4227 is very accurate with lead bullets out of my Ruger SBH with a 5 1/2" barrel.

Is IMR 4227 the old H4227? First I have ever heard of that.

biogenic
October 2, 2011, 07:26 PM
Is IMR 4227 the old H4227? First I have ever heard of that.

Found this on another forum. hope it helps anyone which might have some of this powder left...

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/12458-44-Magnum-and-H4227

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